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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 8, 2022 0:34:11 GMT
Best Picture Best Director Best Cinematography Best Film Editing Best VFX Best Sound Score and song are possible too. I still don't buy the production design nom. There are too many contenders with actual sets in 2022 for them to nominate Avatar's VFX for three categories like they did in 2009. Cinematography is easier to conflate with how a film looks in general so I think it gets in there and knocks out Deaks or Friend. Are there that many big contenders though? I'm having a bit of a hard time coming up with 5 predictions in this category that I'd be fully happy with tbh. But even with that in mind The Way of Water doesn't seem like a fringe contender to me - I think the designers will absolutely admire the new realms explored here. The fantastical underwater worlds will be more than enough for them to nominate it. I believe it can even win. Black Panther, Babylon, The Fabelmans, The Woman King, Elvis, EEAAO, Glass Onion, Western Front, even Batman. I think if they're going to cream their pants over the visuals, they'd do it in cinematography where it makes more sense. |
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Post by JangoB on Dec 8, 2022 0:50:45 GMT
Are there that many big contenders though? I'm having a bit of a hard time coming up with 5 predictions in this category that I'd be fully happy with tbh. But even with that in mind The Way of Water doesn't seem like a fringe contender to me - I think the designers will absolutely admire the new realms explored here. The fantastical underwater worlds will be more than enough for them to nominate it. I believe it can even win. Black Panther, Babylon, The Fabelmans, The Woman King, Elvis, EEAAO, Glass Onion, Western Front, even Batman. I think if they're going to cream their pants over the visuals, they'd do it in cinematography where it makes more sense. Oh, I just don't consider The Woman King, EEAAO, Glass Onion and Western Front to be significant threats here  But why does it make more sense in cinematography when the movie is literally about showcasing the new worlds of Pandora which can make the production design branch cream just as hard if not harder? Those worlds required a ton of new production design work and are already blowing people away so why wouldn't this branch, which loves world-building, recognize them? The first Avatar won a shitton of awards for Production Design and I can see a similar thing happening here with the movie offering new places for the viewers to visit. It ain't the same nooks and crannies of Pandora that we've already seen. The shooting method though? Essentially the same. Which makes me very unsure about the cinematographers' branch reaction. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 8, 2022 2:10:13 GMT
But why does it make more sense in cinematography when the movie is literally about showcasing the new worlds of Pandora which can make the production design branch cream just as hard if not harder? Those worlds required a ton of new production design work and are already blowing people away so why wouldn't this branch, which loves world-building, recognize them? I mean, all that's true but they've had tons of opportunities to nominate computer-generated worldbuilding in films like Wall-E or Zootopia or Encanto and never went for it. Yeah there are examples of CGI being used to expand sets like with Hugo or Black Panther, but those both had massive physical sets to build upon and fill out. I know there's a precedent and everything. Obvs Avatar won in 2009 and then we had Alice in Wonderland the very next year, but recognizing production design that's 99% computer-generated is still very rare ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Dec 14, 2022 8:38:51 GMT
Not really feeling a BD nomination for Cameron... the critical reception, while still decent, is not nearly as good as what the first one had, and I'm not sure I see the directors' branch name checking Cameron just because they nominated him for the last two movies he made.... which btw are the only times he's been nominated in his career, so it's not like he's always been an Oscar darling. He was obviously going to win for Titanic, and the first Avatar was top 2 in Best Picture. Way of Water seems like a lower-tier BP contender at best... plus the knowledge that Cameron is making more Avatar movies after this might also be a factor, so it might be another Two Towers situation where if he's nominated again for an Avatar movie, it could be further down the road.
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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 14, 2022 12:30:51 GMT
Yeah, I think he's 5th at best.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 14, 2022 12:54:32 GMT
I dunno man, I wouldn't count Cameron out before this film makes a gazillion dollars and before the DGA......I'mmina follow the money  |
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Post by Joaquim on Dec 14, 2022 14:59:54 GMT
Nope, not betting against Cameron
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