Cate Blanchett or Kate Winslet?

Nicole Kidman, in their shared era, is a more gifted, versatile and interesting performer than either of them, but even though I've found her to become less interesting and her range to be less persuasive as time has gone by, Cate Blanchett is still someone I put over Kate Winslet (as a screen actor in totality, but also as a theatre actor, something Winslet seems reluctant to really challenge herself with at the highest level in theatre, which is almost unheard of for a British actress at her level. Shit, you got Jodie Comer, who has been on the scene all of 5 minutes, doing one woman stage shows to prove herself on stage, while Winslet has been avoiding the scrutiny of stage most of her career, even while married to Sam Mendes).

To me, it's why someone like Olivia Colman, has rapidly been able to seem like more of a true heir to Judi Dench/Vanessa Redgrave etc than Winslet in the grande tradition of great British actresses, despite Winslet having like a 20 year advantage/headstart over Colman with her Hollywood breakthrough. And though a bit older than Winslet,  I also consider Tilda Swinton to be better than her in terms of current British actresses of note.

Winslet is a very fine screen actress, but I honestly don't think there is anything she does,  that a British peer like Rachel Weisz can't do just as well (actually,  Weisz can do stage better,  because she did it successfully at the highest level with things like A Streetcar Named Desire). In general, I also find Winslet's choice in material to be pretty dull, and it feeds my belief that she's not quite as mercurial a talent as the likes of Blanchett, Kidman and Swinton. Too much of it is dreary awardsbait (she's also thirsty for awards to the point where it's a determining & offputting factor in her choices as an actor, moreso than even someone like Blanchett, who clearly loves awards as well).. 

Well damn... Next time let's all take turns hitting me with a 2x4...  

I'll use strictly their names as they are billed on the movie posters from now on. Jeesh. 

Never in my life have I heard that song. Is it really common knowledge? Let me rephrase that, is it common knowledge for an American? The things I have learned about Australia, well, I'll keep to myself. This isn't that kind of thread. If you're not Australian, did you first hear this in that Ava Gardner movie? 

Haha, what does this mean?!?

I've obviously never heard of Matilda so I googled Waltzing Matilda and the first result had an Australian flag on it.

Usually I would have gone for Blanchett as I think she been more consistently great through her career. But Mare of Easttown turned it more even, as I think it's one of the very best performances by anyone in the past 10 or so years (I also loved Winslet in Steve Jobs). I'd probably still slightly lean towards Cate, but it's much closer than what it would have been a few years ago.

Yeah, I learned it around 3rd grade too, in North Carolina.  

Jodie Comer doesn't have a film career.  She's a zero in film so far, as Ridley utterly failed her with The Last Duel.  What does her stage triumph have to do with Winslet, a 46 year old actress with an Oscar win and 7 nominations and a close friendship with the GOAT screen actor ?  Colman is fool's gold, as I've been saying.  She's on an Amy Adams run, and will get cold very soon, particularly as she's not physically in the same category as these other women, including Dench at the same age.  Swinton is a genius, but way too far from normative in appearance to poach roles from a Winslet/Kidman.  Weisz is very good, but struggles with roles demanding extremes.  She could never pull off the court scenes in The Reader.  

I thought Blanchett was inexplicably really bad in Carol. And not even in a going against type and flopping type way, it's the kind of thing she should hit out of the park and she just didn't. She felt fake the whole time and Mara and the aesthetics had to bail the movie out. 

The 2 best English language actresses in the world - under 60 - talk about taking the piss.....