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Post by Joaquim on Sept 14, 2022 2:25:49 GMT
Was driving around earlier tonight and saw an American flag outside some building being flown at half mast for the queen. First time I saw that here, or at least the first time I bothered to notice. What the actual fuck? You’re flying the American flag at half mast for a fucking monarch? The actual American flag? This is more offensive to me than burning the flag, although to be fair that’s not really saying much since I honestly don’t really give a shit if you burn the flag
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Sept 14, 2022 13:00:41 GMT
Was driving around earlier tonight and saw an American flag outside some building being flown at half mast for the queen. First time I saw that here, or at least the first time I bothered to notice. What the actual fuck? You’re flying the American flag at half mast for a fucking monarch? The actual American flag? This is more offensive to me than burning the flag, although to be fair that’s not really saying much since I honestly don’t really give a shit if you burn the flag Are you certain it was for the queen and not for 9/11 and they hadn’t raised it back up yet? |
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Post by Joaquim on Sept 14, 2022 19:35:40 GMT
Was driving around earlier tonight and saw an American flag outside some building being flown at half mast for the queen. First time I saw that here, or at least the first time I bothered to notice. What the actual fuck? You’re flying the American flag at half mast for a fucking monarch? The actual American flag? This is more offensive to me than burning the flag, although to be fair that’s not really saying much since I honestly don’t really give a shit if you burn the flag Are you certain it was for the queen and not for 9/11 and they hadn’t raised it back up yet? Shit you probably right  Point still stands tho, I never want to see an American flag being flown at half mast for a fucking monarch |
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Sept 15, 2022 11:15:03 GMT
1) If a society can disenfranchise prisoners and prevent under 18s from voting, the elderly should definitely not be allowed to vote. How can a 95 year old Alzheimer's patient vote but a person who went through a supposedly rehabilitative system be deprived of this? How can a person who won't be alive long enough to see the lasting consequences of their vote have this right but a teenager who is going to grow up in a country shaped by these policies can't? I'm all for universal suffrage, however there's too many contradictions in the electorate to abide by this while older people of diminishing health and mind, as well as already holding well-kept out of touch values, continually fuck up the world for younger generations. People with mild Alzheimer's generally retain an adequate ability to vote; it's those with severe Alzheimer's that do not, but I doubt they would actually care. Teenagers nowadays are generally not interested in politics. They don't watch the news or the debates, they only know the reality by what they read in social media. There's research proving my point. This is from a very recent study conducted by Roehampton University of London and UCL with 1664 participants: "Political interest was measured on a scale between 1 and 4, with 4 being the most interested. The findings show that children from the two parental education groups hardly differ in their interest in politics at age 11, with children from less educated families showing a slightly higher level of interest.Overall, the average scores of the two groups are closer to 1 (not interested) than to 2 (fairly interested) indicating a broad disinterest in politics among 11- to 15-year-olds regardless of background. However, by age 15 there is a clear gap between the groups linked to social background: the political interest of children from the 50% most educated parents had hardly changed, whereas that of the 50% least educated had declined.By age 25 the level of political interest in the children whose parents were in the more educated group is more than twice as high as those from the group with parents who were in the least educated group."There are also some aspects of economy that teenagers would hardly understand, because they haven't experienced them or heard about them at school or at home. I wouldn't be surprised if most of them didn't know the difference between right wing and left wing. And the assumption that "a person won't be alive long enough to see the lasting consequences of their vote" should never be used as an excuse to prevent someone from voting. That's absurd. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 15, 2022 11:42:55 GMT
Just for US:
Those older people just lived so what gives the State the right to take any Constitutional US right away anyway?
Under 18 is not an adult in the US - that's the same logic as why you can't bar 19 year olds from owning a gun (you can't) but can prevent them from renting a car or having a drink which are not rights granted to you by that document.
Criminals have violated the law and been convicted as doing so by our courts - there's a logic to loss of rights and to it at least even if it seems unfair - I'm not opposed to reinstating that right even - there's an argument for it certainly - it's not the same as the other 2 examples but all 3 could be considered false on a simple level....one man's disenfranchise prisoners is anothers responsibility for your felony .....one man's 95 can be as wise as it is senile.....and under 18 are kids not adults.......to state penetrating looks into the obvious.....
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