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Post by Sharbs on May 1, 2017 21:07:01 GMT
Because the majority haven't seen enough to make a call
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Post by ibbi on May 1, 2017 21:18:50 GMT
I don't think she's underrated, I think she's under seen. Her Cesar record is not dissimilar to Streep's Oscar one, and I don't think anybody would consider Meryl underrated the fact that she hasn't won more is certainly ridiculous, but you know how these things work. You throw her Venice and Cannes successes in there, and it's safe to say in places where people watch her work she's adored.
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Post by ibbi on May 1, 2017 21:35:31 GMT
I don't think she's underrated, I think she's under seen. Her Cesar record is not dissimilar to Streep's Oscar one, and I don't think anybody would consider Meryl underrated the fact that she hasn't won more is certainly ridiculous, but you know how these things work. You throw her Venice and Cannes successes in there, and it's safe to say in places where people watch her work she's adored. I think underseen and underrated are close to similar things and the distinction isn't huge. Someone becomes underrated when they're underseen. While I know she gets all positive reviews from where she's seen, based on my definitions I still think she's underrated. I just think she's like one of the top 3 or 4 contemporary actresses - and her work is like the best example you can think of how modern the art has gotten. I mean I think I even would outdo what you're saying. To me she's probably the best actress that ever lived, top 3 at the very least, I just think she gets plenty of credit, certainly as much as anyone that's rarely worked in English language films. Maybe you need to run in better circles
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Post by stephen on May 1, 2017 22:44:06 GMT
She is far from underrated. As ibbi said, she might be accused of being "underseen," certainly by mainstream stateside audiences . . . but she is considered by most cinephiles to be one of the greatest actresses of all time, and potentially the greatest living female thespian.
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Post by MsMovieStar on May 2, 2017 15:52:04 GMT
Oh honey, I think I saw enough of her in Ma Mère. Too slutty... even for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 19:07:10 GMT
in places where people watch her work she's adored. ^This. I'm not sure how famous she is in the U.S. but hopefully the Oscar nomination will bring her more exposure and some decent roles worthy of her talent. She's also a top 10 favourite of mine, certainly .
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jul 6, 2020 2:48:04 GMT
pacinoyes Thoughts on Isabelle Huppert??? As the connoisseur of Huppert on this board, what says you? The Olivier of actresses??? My nods currently: '78: Lead Actress - Violette '79: Lead Actress - The Brontë Sisters (WIN) '88: Lead Actress - Story of Women '09: Lead Actress - White Material '12: Lead Actress - In Another Country '18: Lead Actress - Greta (WIN)
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Post by wattsnew on Jul 6, 2020 5:24:24 GMT
One of the greatest actresses of all time. Love her work in Huckabees and Elle.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 6, 2020 7:23:38 GMT
pacinoyes Thoughts on Isabelle Huppert??? As the connoisseur of Huppert on this board, what says you? The Olivier of actresses??? Pretty much - I always say when I'm way more a "Huppertyes" fanboy and not only do I love her I REALLY love talking about her I never seriously argue a "best male actor" - usually I stick to era and country - I can tell you who it MAY be and especially who it damn sure ISN'T - but for men it's very nuanced and quirky - I'm more playing along for a discussion. For females it's far simpler - she's the best actress from any country or era on film that I've ever seen. Period. My feelings towards Huppert in some ways tie into male actors I'd support too not that you have to see her through a male but it helps put her in perspective - she has an insane hot streak in the 80s (like Brando's 50s) - a jaw-dropping amount of great performances (only Pacino or Olivier can compare at all), a large amount of what Pauline Kael used to call "protean" performances ("changing" ones) for De Niro and yet is almost always identifiable as herself to us within that (like Nicholson who does it but not in a "protean" way). Some of my favorite things of of hers are in work that remains under-represented in her tidal wave of performances (even in English (!) like Hal Hartley's Amateur) - stuff that isn't "great" in obvious ways but that she just inhabits and fills out and how she can pivot from lead to support and never lose definition. I just re-watched her be brilliant in Coup De Torchon (1981) which isn't even in her top - what 20 maybe (?). La Ceremonie is my favorite female performance ever and there's a bunch that rival it which is amazing itself but even in the ones that can't she still fascinates for me. She also is stupendous among her countries GOAT males (Depardieu in Loulou, Auteuil in La Separation, Cluzet in Story of Women) or she can be the whole show without them around at all either.
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Post by Allenism on Jul 7, 2020 14:22:25 GMT
One of the greatest actresses of all time. Love her work in Huckabees and Elle. Isabelle takes photo with a fan.
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Post by wattsnew on Jul 7, 2020 18:38:41 GMT
One of the greatest actresses of all time. Love her work in Huckabees and Elle. Isabelle takes photo with a fan. *A dear friend and collaborator.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 7, 2020 18:44:58 GMT
Isabelle takes photo with a fan. *A dear friend and collaborator. Don't worry about that anyway wattsnew , at least Watts didn't grovel ..........kidding, kidding Kidmaniacs - OMFG pacinoyes can't get away with a joke about her at all is that it MAR? Grrrrrrrr
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Post by wattsnew on Jul 9, 2020 0:03:36 GMT
LOL that photo is amazing. Kidman’s desperation and thirstiness on full display. Huppert her indifference is always great.
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Post by Allenism on Jul 11, 2020 19:42:18 GMT
*A dear friend and collaborator. Don't worry about that anyway wattsnew , at least Watts didn't grovel ..........kidding, kidding Kidmaniacs - OMFG pacinoyes can't get away with a joke about her at all is that it MAR? Grrrrrrr Watts didn't grovel for fear of being tossed onto the streets due to lack of recognizeability.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2021 6:34:10 GMT
Mattsby Viced - The last film she saw at the Paris Cinema Club was Running On Empty!!!
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 2, 2021 17:21:53 GMT
I think that worldwide is underated, but here and in every film site is extremely overated!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 24, 2021 9:56:42 GMT
pacinoyes Thoughts on Isabelle Huppert??? As the connoisseur of Huppert on this board, what says you? The Olivier of actresses??? Pretty much - I always say when I'm way more a "Huppertyes" fanboy and not only do I love her I REALLY love talking about her I never seriously argue a "best male actor" - usually I stick to era and country - I can tell you who it MAY be and especially who it damn sure ISN'T - but for men it's very nuanced and quirky - I'm more playing along for a discussion. For females it's far simpler - she's the best actress from any country or era on film that I've ever seen. Period. My feelings towards Huppert in some ways tie into male actors I'd support too not that you have to see her through a male but it helps put her in perspective - she has an insane hot streak in the 80s (like Brando's 50s) - a jaw-dropping amount of great performances (only Pacino or Olivier can compare at all), a large amount of what Pauline Kael used to call "protean" performances ("changing" ones) for De Niro and yet is almost always identifiable as herself to us within that (like Nicholson who does it but not in a "protean" way). Some of my favorite things of of hers are in work that remains under-represented in her tidal wave of performances (even in English (!) like Hal Hartley's Amateur) - stuff that isn't "great" in obvious ways but that she just inhabits and fills out and how she can pivot from lead to support and never lose definition. I just re-watched her be brilliant in Coup De Torchon (1981) which isn't even in her top - what 20 maybe (?). La Ceremonie is my favorite female performance ever and there's a bunch that rival it which is amazing itself but even in the ones that can't she still fascinates for me. She also is stupendous among her countries GOAT males (Depardieu in Loulou, Auteuil in La Separation, Cluzet in Story of Women) or she can be the whole show without them around at all either. I recently watched her in a movie called "The Flood" (1993) - which I had never seen before.......and she's amazing in this. Russian too (!) - it's a an epic characterization. I wasn't going to review this movie because I am not really sure what to say about it and I didn't want to put it in the "last great performance" thread because it's too major to get lost there.......I can't believe I never came across this ....... this has only 130 (!) ratings on IMDB - she has to have more great "unseen" performances than any actress - I'm not just talking her big ones but she has a ton of obscure ones like this - maybe not THIS obscure ........
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 26, 2021 10:59:30 GMT
I've only seen a handful from her (that whole underseen thing again ), but I dig her. I think she might secretly be Anna Paquin's mother, I mean has anyone looked into that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 17:41:09 GMT
Vogue France (just re-branded from Vogue Paris) cover model... https://www.instagram.com/p/CW8jNShICnJ LaraQ - It's already a huge improvement from Emmanuelle Alt, right? I mean... Carine Roitfeld could have picked that cover.
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Post by LaraQ on Dec 2, 2021 13:41:11 GMT
Love that cover.I'm a bit sad that it's not Vogue Paris anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2021 14:40:29 GMT
pacinoyes - It seems like Bob Wilson has had just as strong an impact (if not stronger) on her life and career as Chabrol! I had no idea.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 3, 2021 15:21:26 GMT
pacinoyes - It seems like Bob Wilson has had just as strong an impact (if not stronger) on her life and career as Chabrol! I had no idea. It's one of the reasons I think you could use compellingly to argue her as the "real" GOAT - regardless of gender because - most of the greatest acting artists - had to at some point give up one career for another (usually for the movies, even if they still did theater) .......... but Huppert didn't "have to" do that and she didn't just balance the avant-garde work with the commercial film work she also incorporated the avant-garde techniques within her more commercial film work. In the clip below she exhibits several actor techniques that in and of itself is astonishing simply as technique - like I didn't think a person could contort their face without blinking for that long - independent of any movement - except when she specifically chooses to move at all or speak /sing and their is a control and rapidity in balance......no film would require any actor to do this - yet she uses what she mastered within film constantly. There's a lot of Huppert in Blanchett's current career arc with things like that btw - work that she will later use in film that people have no reference to when they critique it - and think their critique is insightful when it is not at all. It's acting apart from our system of noticing acting at all......or assessing it. I am not kidding when I say I would literally kill a man to have seen Wilson & Huppert's full "Mary Said What She Said"
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Post by Mattsby on Dec 6, 2021 19:51:43 GMT
Google translated. She has incredibly amazing taste........... www.vogue.fr/culture/article/isabelle-huppert-films-preferesWhat Are Isabelle Huppert's Favorite Films? Of her collaboration with Claude Chabrol , she says that he "gave her the opportunity to dig an intimate territory, inside his own". This is perhaps what sets Isabelle Huppert apart , an intimate signature so unique, always present through each of her characters. And this obsession with embodying poisonous, enigmatic women. Omnipresent on screens and billboards where she is the muse of creators, her mystery nevertheless triggers fascination, the ultimate prerogative of the great. If the word star were to be embodied, he would choose Isabelle H. For Vogue France, the actress revealed her favorite films to us. Your first memorable movie memory? When the Storks Pass , a Soviet film by Mikhail Kalatozov . [The Cranes Are Flying] The film that made you want to be an actress? Always When the storks pass . Which films made you think the most? La Régle du Jeu by Jean Renoir , Le Mépris by Jean-Luc Godard , Voyage to Tokyo by Yasujirō Ozu and Voyage to the End of Hell by Michael Cimino. [The Deer Hunter] The movie that gave you nightmares? The Diabolical Doctor Mabuse by Fritz Lang . A film that absolutely overwhelmed you? City Lights of Charlie Chaplin . And which one made you laugh the most? Yoyo by Pierre Etaix and Flirting with Disaster by David O. Russell . A film that you place above the others on the aesthetic level? Our Century by Artavazd Pelechian . Your teenage crush at the movies? Vertigo by Alfred Hitchcock . The actress you would like to play with? Frances McDormand . The director you still dream of playing with? Michael Haneke . What film have you seen the most in your life? The Third Man by Carol Reed . In your filmography, what if you had to advise someone three films? In my films, I would say La Dentellière by Claude Goretta , La Cérémonie by Claude Chabrol , The Pianist by Michael Haneke and Elle by Paul Verhoeven . This year, what are your favorites at the cinema? Julie (in 12 chapters) by Joaquim Trier , Annette by Leos Carax, France by Bruno Dumont , Drive My Car , by Ryūsuke Hamaguchi , Le Pouvoir du chien by Jane Campion , First Cow by Kelly Reichardt and Les Intranquilles by Joachim Lafosse .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 19:56:33 GMT
The actress you would like to play with? Frances McDormand . Totally surprised by this choice tbh - everything else seems very "her."
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