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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 2:42:04 GMT
The list was published in 2018.1. Katharine Hepburn 2. Bette Davis 3. Ingrid Bergman 4. Liv Ullmann 5. Bibi Andersson 6. Meryl Streep 7. Setsuko Hara 8. Giulietta Masina 9. Anna Karina 10. Isabelle Huppert So... What do you think?
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 29, 2022 5:39:05 GMT
I don't agree. Barbara Stanwyck is better than most of them. Tilda Swinton is too. Anna Karina over Winslet? Huh? I like me some Godard, but that's foolishness. This is a list built from eyeing reputation, not from someone generating their top 10 actresses organically. Bette Davis isn't even a top 3 performance in All About Eve, IMO, good as she is. A top 10 needs to have Vivien Leigh. I'd put Riseborough over half of these people, sheesh.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 29, 2022 7:42:25 GMT
Pretty hard to argue this though you can always argue with the exact number rankings - I'd say No Magnani? No Rowlands? but .....this is very much a heavy drama actresses list that values filmography - the same as my "great actors are in great movies in the greatest scenes for great directors" argument which is mostly true......it just is.......it's NOT "Oh, great actors are almost always better than their movies which aren't that good for journeymen filmmakers " ........that's a much harder argument to make.....and is probably why you don't see Lange, Close, Magnani, Rowlands, Page on this list though all are great etc. - but outside their "top 10" Hara is a great pick and she had died recently I'm pretty sure when this was done..... Liv Ullman is that thing I always say about the "great English speaking male actors": Brando / DDL / Washington / Clift / Duvall / Hopkins / Burton etc. acclaimed actors who don't have much or in some cases any comic inflected work. Like them - Ullman "could do" comedy - but she didn't do it memorably too much - yet she is obviously an all timer because she was so great at drama - and they were big, important, heavy dramas etc. Female lists have a core usually that the men don't have to have (Streep, Hepburn, Bergman, Davis, Huppert, Ullman) - with men you can more logically leave off A LOT of male heavy hitters depending what you value in acting........and film in general. 1. Katharine Hepburn 2. Bette Davis 3. Ingrid Bergman 4. Liv Ullmann 5. Bibi Andersson 6. Meryl Streep 7. Setsuko Hara 8. Giulietta Masina 9. Anna Karina 10. Isabelle Huppert
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Post by themoviesinner on Mar 29, 2022 8:32:19 GMT
I like this list. 4 of them would make my top 10 as well and most of the others are really great actresses as well. My top 10 would be something like this (no order):
Katharine Hepburn Ingrid Bergman Liv Ullmann Anna Karina Anna Magnani Irene Papas Mariko Okada Barbara Stanwyck Faten Hamama Juliette Binoche
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Post by fiosnasiob on Mar 29, 2022 8:57:31 GMT
They are all great actresses, so from there, it's a good list. The 2 that, to me, feel like they are "less obvious/deserving choices" here are Anna Karina, who was a stunner and of course a very talented actress (especially memorable in Vivre Sa Vie) and Bibi Andersson, I like her but if you have Liv you don't need to put Bibi...except if the only movie you saw of these two is Persona (and overall she got nothing on Ingrid Thulin !).
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Post by MsMovieStar on Mar 29, 2022 9:22:31 GMT
Oh honey, these lists are so absurd and ridiculous!
It's all down to who compiles them, but everyone knows that a list of the 10 Greatest Actresses of All Time would look like this:-
1. Ms Movie Star 2. Anna Magnani 3. Isabelle Huppert 4. Ms Movie Star 5. Katherine Hepburn 6. Ms Movie Star 7. Judy Davis 8. Ms Movie Star 9. Ms Movie Star 10. Ms Movie Star
But seriously... any list that doesn't include the legendary Anna Magnani, who changed the course of acting with her emotional honesty and realism and is generally acknowledged to be the GOAT (even Bette Davis cited her as her favourite) isn't worth the time.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Mar 29, 2022 9:46:51 GMT
As much as I adore Anna Karina. I don't think she belongs in a top 10 greatest ever list.
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