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Post by Barbie on Mar 18, 2022 1:37:54 GMT
(Note: for those who were on Oscar Buzz and remember I was not a fan and found her overrated, I’m a Jennifer Lawrence FAN now. In fact, I love her 🤩❤️😍)
So I was watching some clips of her performance in WB and got to thinking about her filmography since breakout role, and damn, I really miss Winter’s Bone JLaw. I don’t think she’s lost her abilities bc flashes of those abilities showed up in mother!, but her choice in projects since WB (non-franchise ones) were not the best in terms of building on her talent. It’s almost as if those movies were too easy for her or not challenging enough. It certainly didn’t match her potential
She’s at her best and most impressive playing gritty characters not just in Winter’s Bone but in The Burning Plain and The Poker House. It’s scary that she gave three brilliant and mature performances all before the age of 21
I feel like teaming up with DOR after SLP was a mistake for her craft and potential. I’m aware she got two Oscar noms after her win bc of his movies, but we all know she was going to get them anyway through other projects. And those would actually be deserved
Looking at the next project she has coming up, I don’t have confidence that she’s going to turn in WB caliber performance bc the project is with Adam McKay 🙄
It’s honestly sad that her becoming a superstar with phenomenal success has come at the expense of her craft. I say sad bc it feels like wasted potential. I really hope she gets back to playing gritty characters and never works with DOR or McKay ever again
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 18, 2022 1:42:01 GMT
What? Winter's Bone J-Law was nice, but it's not like she didn't go on to be much more interesting after. Tho after 2015 she's been pretty much a zombie, no argument there.
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Post by stephen on Mar 18, 2022 1:51:09 GMT
I do think that spark is absolutely still there -- that steely, wise-beyond-her-years, Jodie Foster-for-the-new-millennium vibe that made her such a knockout in Winter's Bone (and to a slightly lesser extent, The Burning Plain). The problem was that she got swept up in the David O. Russell machine where he was casting her in roles that were a.) not age-appropriate, b.) not playing to her natural strengths, and c.) largely not well-written. And it's clear that all of that, coupled with the gazillion franchise films she wound up in, it really burned her out. But as much as I hated Don't Look Up, she was easily one of the better aspects of it (despite having an absolutely ridiculous character to have to deal with), and I think she just needs a director who isn't a complete and total clown to take her on. Alejandro G. Inarritu, for example, I always felt would be a perfect match for her.
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 18, 2022 2:08:22 GMT
I never understood her acclaim for that movie (and the subsequent ones), which is why I became such a loud J-Law dissenter. It was just this generic aggrieved youngin' searching for her dad role; juxtaposed to what John Hawkes was doing, I really didn't get the acclaim. Nothing about her acting felt remarkably expressive to me, and it's my biggest criticism about her to this day. I can't even isolate moments, 3 or 5 second segments from any of her performances, that blow me away. Her attempts to be emotional always strike me as fraudulent, like she can't really summon emotions or mental states like the best actors can. So I have little use for her.
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Post by Barbie on Mar 18, 2022 3:17:40 GMT
I never understood her acclaim for that movie (and the subsequent ones), which is why I became such a loud J-Law dissenter. It was just this generic aggrieved youngin' searching for her dad role; juxtaposed to what John Hawkes was doing, I really didn't get the acclaim. Nothing about her acting felt remarkably expressive to me, and it's my biggest criticism about her to this day. I can't even isolate moments, 3 or 5 second segments from any of her performances, that blow me away. Her attempts to be emotional always strike me as fraudulent, like she can't really summon emotions or mental states like the best actors can. So I have little use for her. 😮😮😮 Even at my lowest opinion of her capabilities, I never thought that. In fact, I felt she had scenes of brilliance that really wowed me. Raw emotions are her strength in my opinion that’s what let me know she’s talented even though she was crazy overrated. In Winter’s Bone, this scene was gold. Her reaction to finding her father, just wow ETA: I also highly recommend watching The Burning Plain and The Poker House as well. There are a few scenes where she’s outstanding and deserved wide recognition at least. She was especially heartbreaking in The Poker House, and I think she was only 16 when she did that movie. The movie is not very good, but she was mighty impressive to say the least |
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Post by Barbie on Mar 18, 2022 3:37:22 GMT
I do think that spark is absolutely still there -- that steely, wise-beyond-her-years, Jodie Foster-for-the-new-millennium vibe that made her such a knockout in Winter's Bone (and to a slightly lesser extent, The Burning Plain). The problem was that she got swept up in the David O. Russell machine where he was casting her in roles that were a.) not age-appropriate, b.) not playing to her natural strengths, and c.) largely not well-written. And it's clear that all of that, coupled with the gazillion franchise films she wound up in, it really burned her out. But as much as I hated Don't Look Up, she was easily one of the better aspects of it (despite having an absolutely ridiculous character to have to deal with), and I think she just needs a director who isn't a complete and total clown to take her on. Alejandro G. Inarritu, for example, I always felt would be a perfect match for her. Agree especially the not age appropriate thing. Her roles in DOR movies were so miscast With her franchises, I think THG gave her some good material to play to her strengths especially in the first movie I saw a couple months ago that she’s looking for a new agency. I hope whoever she ends up can guide her in the right direction bc I’m hungry for that grittiness |
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Post by Barbie on Mar 18, 2022 3:39:34 GMT
What? Winter's Bone J-Law was nice, but it's not like she didn't go on to be much more interesting after. Tho after 2015 she's been pretty much a zombie, no argument there. I was not impressed with her in SLP. I’ve watched it three times since it first came out (last viewing was 1.5 years ago) and I’m still baffled as to how she swept awards season. I’m just gonna pretend she won the Oscar for her three amazing performances before SLP She was good in THG so there’s that but her DOR movies and Passengers, yawnnn |
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 18, 2022 3:51:29 GMT
I never understood her acclaim for that movie (and the subsequent ones), which is why I became such a loud J-Law dissenter. It was just this generic aggrieved youngin' searching for her dad role; juxtaposed to what John Hawkes was doing, I really didn't get the acclaim. Nothing about her acting felt remarkably expressive to me, and it's my biggest criticism about her to this day. I can't even isolate moments, 3 or 5 second segments from any of her performances, that blow me away. Her attempts to be emotional always strike me as fraudulent, like she can't really summon emotions or mental states like the best actors can. So I have little use for her. 😮😮😮 Even at my lowest opinion of her capabilities, I never thought that. In fact, I felt she had scenes of brilliance that really wowed me. Raw emotions are her strength in my opinion that’s what let me know she’s talented even though she was crazy overrated. In Winter’s Bone, this scene was gold. Her reaction to finding her father, just wow ETA: I also highly recommend watching The Burning Plain and The Poker House as well. There are a few scenes where she’s outstanding and deserved wide recognition at least. She was especially heartbreaking in The Poker House, and I think she was only 16 when she did that movie. The movie is not very good, but she was mighty impressive to say the least I like her in that garage scene in Winter's Bone, but it's not Leo in the doorway in The Basketball Diaries or Joaquin in the processing scene. She just doesn't have that incandescent quality I like to see. Evan Rachel Wood is doing shit in Charlie Countryman far more advanced than any acting I've ever seen from Jennifer Lawrence. No personal digs here; I like her in interviews. I just think she lacks intellectual curiosity about the art of acting, so defers to her laziest instincts, which have garnered her an Oscar win and nominations. |
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Mar 18, 2022 13:09:04 GMT
She is phenomenal in that movie. The scene on the boat... she killed that. Every moment with John Hawkes, especially after he grabs her in that first scene she has with him. That reaction of fear she gives is too real. This film made me excited to see this new dramatic talent on the scene. She's still got it in her. But I also want to see her do more of this stripped-down, gritty type of work before Marvel and DOR found her. I think she's in a position where she can go back and forth. And the thing about her is she can fit into these settings and then do a big vehicle.
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Post by Barbie on Mar 18, 2022 13:53:36 GMT
She is phenomenal in that movie. The scene on the boat... she killed that. Every moment with John Hawkes, especially after he grabs her in that first scene she has with him. That reaction of fear she gives is too real. This film made me excited to see this new dramatic talent on the scene. She's still got it in her. But I also want to see her do more of this stripped-down, gritty type of work before Marvel and DOR found her. I think she's in a position where she can go back and forth. And the thing about her is she can fit into these settings and then do a big vehicle. Agree. I think that’s part of what’s frustrating is that she has so much power and can pick any project she wants to but she choose those smh |
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Post by stephen on Mar 18, 2022 14:08:52 GMT
She is phenomenal in that movie. The scene on the boat... she killed that. Every moment with John Hawkes, especially after he grabs her in that first scene she has with him. That reaction of fear she gives is too real. This film made me excited to see this new dramatic talent on the scene. She's still got it in her. But I also want to see her do more of this stripped-down, gritty type of work before Marvel and DOR found her. I think she's in a position where she can go back and forth. And the thing about her is she can fit into these settings and then do a big vehicle. Agree. She got the power to go back and forth. I think that’s part of what’s frustrating is that she has so much power and pick any project she wants to but she choose those smh Honestly, on paper, Lawrence's career picks haven't been bad. She's worked with Oscar favorites and scored a slew of nominations, including a win in an extremely contentious year for the category, and she also proved she is a commercial commodity who could, at one time, headline blockbuster franchises. The problem is that Lawrence's ubiquity wound up working against her, and people got burned out on what they perceived as a put-on persona. It got really bad at the time of those leaks, and you could see the toll it was taking on her, and that started to bleed into the performances she was giving. She needed the hiatus. She needed to break away and become more selective. But the talent never went away. That said, I do wish she'd take a leaf from Emma Stone's book and start gunning hard for offbeat auteur work. I want to see her work with a Lanthimos type, or Fukunaga. |
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 18, 2022 15:15:37 GMT
I thought she was quite fun in Don't Look Up despite the atrocious material she had to work with, but Winter's Bone remains her truly great performance.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 25, 2022 8:22:00 GMT
What? Winter's Bone J-Law was nice, but it's not like she didn't go on to be much more interesting after. Tho after 2015 she's been pretty much a zombie, no argument there. I was not impressed with her in SLP. I’ve watched it three times since it first came out (last viewing was 1.5 years ago) and I’m still baffled as to how she swept awards season. I’m just gonna pretend she won the Oscar for her three amazing performances before SLP She was good in THG so there’s that but her DOR movies and Passengers, yawnnn She swept because there was no competition. Chastain feels...... good but it's really not worthy of an Oscar. Same goes for Watts who was good not great. Riva is not winning. Whether she deserved it or not, she just wasn't getting the American-centric votes, and that little girl Queva whatever....my mind has one thought thinking her........ "who?" I don't think Lawrence was worthy of an Oscar in SLP but in that lineup she might as well have. Cotillard wasn't nominated. She's entertaining in American Hustle but that category was too good..... I'd probably say Hawkins from the nominees. I think she should've won for Joy tho.... that's her best performance imo. I think Lawrence is good/enjoyable in all her nominations. I just find your take interesting. The Burning Plain-The Poker House-Winter's Bone apparently was something so different for you! Nothing wrong with your take, but it's just interesting how you came upon that conclusion so clearly. I don't even remember what she did in The Burning Plain personally. |
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Post by Barbie on Jan 9, 2023 19:47:40 GMT
I was not impressed with her in SLP. I’ve watched it three times since it first came out (last viewing was 1.5 years ago) and I’m still baffled as to how she swept awards season. I’m just gonna pretend she won the Oscar for her three amazing performances before SLP She was good in THG so there’s that but her DOR movies and Passengers, yawnnn She swept because there was no competition. Chastain feels...... good but it's really not worthy of an Oscar. Same goes for Watts who was good not great. Riva is not winning. Whether she deserved it or not, she just wasn't getting the American-centric votes, and that little girl Queva whatever....my mind has one thought thinking her........ "who?" I don't think Lawrence was worthy of an Oscar in SLP but in that lineup she might as well have. Cotillard wasn't nominated. She's entertaining in American Hustle but that category was too good..... I'd probably say Hawkins from the nominees. I think she should've won for Joy tho.... that's her best performance imo. I think Lawrence is good/enjoyable in all her nominations. I just find your take interesting. The Burning Plain-The Poker House-Winter's Bone apparently was something so different for you! Nothing wrong with your take, but it's just interesting how you came upon that conclusion so clearly. I don't even remember what she did in The Burning Plain personally. I can’t find the scene anymore, but the scene in The Burning Plain where she set her mom’s trailer on fire. How she reacted was insanely good. The way her entire body shook and the pure terror on her face, it’s crazy In The Poker House, the scene after her character gets raped and she’s in the bathtub and cries out for her mom for comfort. It was so heartbreaking. For a lack of a better word, it was real. She has the ability to be really authentic like it’s a real person you’re watching experience these things. I’m a sucker for natural style acting. Shailene Woodley in The Spectacular Now is another good example |
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