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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 10, 2022 0:54:33 GMT
He's at 10 at age 47, all but one of which he was the lead of, and most of which were top 5 contenders (the only one that we can be reasonably certain wasn't was Inception, though Django could have been 6 or 7). That might be even more impressive than his pace for acting nominations. His numbers if he lives long enough (god willing) could look as crazy as Streep's acting nomination total.
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Post by stephen on Feb 10, 2022 0:59:16 GMT
None. The Academy hates him.
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 10, 2022 1:01:43 GMT
 Nah, they're just jealous.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 10, 2022 2:50:23 GMT
He's at 10 at age 47, all but one of which he was the lead of, and most of which were top 5 contenders (the only one that we can be reasonably certain wasn't was Inception, though Django could have been 6 or 7). That might be even more impressive than his pace for acting nominations. His numbers if he lives long enough (god willing) could look as crazy as Streep's acting nomination total. The dirty little secret about "comparing male actors" (ie not Streep) is the acting numbers all even out to a large degree across them all - the "GOATs" within each generation are all reasonably close with one or maybe two things they have uniquely to themselves. DiCap is really the one who is not actually close to anyone across all metrics - regardless of generation - unless the bottom drops out or he drops out by choice - next year he's extremely likely to get his 11th BP nomination, he and De Niro would be the co-record holders 1 upping Nicholson, he's extremely likely to get his 7th acting nod (he could straight up be at what.........at least 9 already?) and a 2nd possible win before 50........and also his 3rd BP winner is possible too which is........you know, a whole lot. After next year plays out I think his long term arc becomes clearer - he still has his pick of scripts - his interest gets movies made.........he could put up BP numbers almost automatically till - 15 + I guess (?) - he could just roll at a scary pace............ or he could want to get married and start a family. nah, j/k  |
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 10, 2022 3:59:39 GMT
I just don't think anyone has been nearly as rigorous in their selection of projects, and this stat somewhat bears witness to it. Even a film like DLU that gets half-panned has enough all-around interest to finagle a BP nom.
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Post by franklin on Feb 10, 2022 4:49:48 GMT
It's insane that DeNiro and Nicholson achieved that same number of BP nominees respectively at the age of 76 and 69 years, lool.
I'm half joking, but if he keeps this pace for other 20 years, he could collect at least other ten of them.
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 10, 2022 5:08:32 GMT
DiCaprio has more because there have been 8-10 BP nominees each year since 2009. In Nicholson and De Niro's heyday there were only 5. Of course it'd be easier for DiCaprio to surpass their records. The only surefire BP nominee in a five nominees format he's been in since 2009 is The Revenant. With 10 BP nominees you can bet Saoirse Ronan will have more than De Niro and Nicholson before she's 40 as she's been in 5 already and sister is only 27.
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 10, 2022 5:26:59 GMT
DiCaprio has more because there have been 8-10 BP nominees each year since 2009. In Nicholson and De Niro's heyday there were only 5. Of course it'd be easier for DiCaprio to surpass their records. The only surefire BP nominee in a five nominees format he's been in since 2009 is The Revenant. With 10 BP nominees you can bet Saoirse Ronan will have more than De Niro and Nicholson before she's 40 as she's been in 5 already and sister is only 27. ?? Did you not see me put asterisks on Django and Inception? Literally every other nominee was a top 5 without question, meaning at least 8 by his age. OUATIH not being top 5 is ridiculous, and I didn't like that movie at all. |
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 10, 2022 5:43:28 GMT
?? Did you not see me put asterisks on Django and Inception? Literally every other nominee was a top 5 without question, meaning at least 8 by his age. OUATIH not being top 5 is ridiculous, and I didn't like that movie at all. The Wolf of Wall Street was most likely 6th behind 12 Years a Slave, American Hustle, Gravity, Nebraska, and Dallas Buyers Club. It could've been 5th instead of Nebraska, but I doubt it. The Revenant was most likely 2nd behind Spotlight. That's the only surefire top 5 nominee. On hindsight Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was 5th at best. It was the most vulnerable amongst the best director nominees and could have been snubbed in favour of Jojo Rabbit. Don't Look Up looked like a threat for about three seconds, but it's pretty clear The Power of the Dog, Belfast, WWS, Dune, and King Richard were stronger. It's most likely 6th in the lineup. So at most he would have 7, which isn't exactly groundbreaking. Cate Blanchett also had 7 before the additions of DLU and Nightmare Alley and all of them were from the 5 nominees era. |
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 10, 2022 5:51:44 GMT
?? Did you not see me put asterisks on Django and Inception? Literally every other nominee was a top 5 without question, meaning at least 8 by his age. OUATIH not being top 5 is ridiculous, and I didn't like that movie at all. The Wolf of Wall Street was most likely 6th behind 12 Years a Slave, American Hustle, Gravity, Nebraska, and Dallas Buyers Club. It could've been 5th instead of Nebraska, but I doubt it. The Revenant was most likely 2nd behind Spotlight. That's the only surefire top 5 nominee. On hindsight Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was 5th at best. It was the most vulnerable amongst the best director nominees and could have been snubbed in favour of Jojo Rabbit. Don't Look Up looked like a threat for about three seconds, but it's pretty clear The Power of the Dog, Belfast, WWS, Dune, and King Richard were stronger. It's most likely 6th in the lineup. So at most he would have 7. Hmm. Dallas got editing but missed out on director. Not clear at all that it was ahead of Wolf in BP. |
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 10, 2022 5:55:51 GMT
The Wolf of Wall Street was most likely 6th behind 12 Years a Slave, American Hustle, Gravity, Nebraska, and Dallas Buyers Club. It could've been 5th instead of Nebraska, but I doubt it. The Revenant was most likely 2nd behind Spotlight. That's the only surefire top 5 nominee. On hindsight Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was 5th at best. It was the most vulnerable amongst the best director nominees and could have been snubbed in favour of Jojo Rabbit. Don't Look Up looked like a threat for about three seconds, but it's pretty clear The Power of the Dog, Belfast, WWS, Dune, and King Richard were stronger. It's most likely 6th in the lineup. So at most he would have 7. Hmm. Dallas got editing but missed out on director. Not clear at all that it was ahead of Wolf in BP. It was definitely ahead of Wolf in BP. McConaughey's support that year was through the roof. Frontrunner in best actor almost always has their film nominated for BP even in the 5 nominees era. The fact that it scored an editing nomination was telling given how pedestrian the editing was. Wolf on the other hand missed editing which would've been its most deserved nomination. Scorsese would always have an easier time to be nominated for director. He's like Meryl Streep in that regard. Tarantino is in the similar boat. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 10, 2022 6:28:44 GMT
I actually think Timothee Chalamet could probably overtake DiCaprio in this particular stat. Astonishingly, at only the age of 26, Chalamet has appeared in 5 Best Picture nominated films:
Call Me By Your Name
Ladybird
Little Women
Don't Look Up
Dune
He's basically two decades younger and already halfway to DiCaprio's total. I don't think this says much about Chalamet's acting talent or makes him an all-time great though. Just that he has an agent skilled enough to land him in projects that really appeal to Oscar voters. He's in these movies, but it's not like he's doing anything special as an actor in most of them So while it's a nice stat to have on your resume, it doesn't really make the actor great. I doubt he'll get near DiCaprio's individual acting nods, which say much more. But Chalamet could be on double digit BP nominated films before the decade is over.
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 10, 2022 6:36:40 GMT
I actually think Timothee Chalamet could probably overtake DiCaprio in this particular stat. Astonishingly, at only the age of 26, Chalamet has appeared in 5 Best Picture nominated films: Call Me By Your NameLadybirdLittle WomenDon't Look UpDuneHe's basically two decades younger and already halfway to DiCaprio's total. I don't think this says much about Chalamet's acting talent or make him an all-time great though. Just that he has an agent skilled enough to land him in projects that really appeal to Oscar voters. So while it's a nice stat to have on your resume, it doesn't really make the actor great. I doubt he'll get near DiCaprio's individual acting nods. But Chalamet could be on double digit BP nominated films before the decade is over. Like I wrote a couple of posts above, with 10 BP nominees many people will reach these records very soon. Saoirse Ronan already has 5 too and she's only 27. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 10, 2022 9:25:45 GMT
It's insane that DeNiro and Nicholson achieved that same number of BP nominees respectively at the age of 76 and 69 years, lool. I'm half joking, but if he keeps this pace for other 20 years, he could collect at least other ten of them. If you've ever read a biography of any of the 3 Post-Brando GOATs ( DePac, Nicholson) one of the things that will stick out to you immediately is the unreal pressure that guys at their level - and there's not many - were under (or put on to themselves) constantly, at their peak especially.........ie they consistently were cast - or chose to push - difficult to pull off - controversial projects for big time filmmakers that were dependent on them specifically - on some level - to pull off with not JUST w/ Box Office or Awards at stake.........if those projects failed - embarrassment was at stake for them and others too. They didn't always get nodded for BP either but some of those projects are career touchstones (The Shining, Scarface, King of Comedy)....... That is what makes DiCap's achievement so major here - he's not just "in" BP's (Plemons, Chalamet, etc) he's the whole show or a crucial part of the show for decades..........I always say you can argue Phoenix/Bale as his acting talent rivals.........but you can't argue them as carrying the same burden as DiCap......he's far closer to those 70s guys ^ ........in some ways he's surpassed them too already ..........it is about numbers but it's not JUST about the numbers at the same time. |
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 10, 2022 9:29:31 GMT
I actually think Timothee Chalamet could probably overtake DiCaprio in this particular stat. Astonishingly, at only the age of 26, Chalamet has appeared in 5 Best Picture nominated films: Call Me By Your NameLadybirdLittle WomenDon't Look UpDuneHe's basically two decades younger and already halfway to DiCaprio's total. I don't think this says much about Chalamet's acting talent or makes him an all-time great though. Just that he has an agent skilled enough to land him in projects that really appeal to Oscar voters. He's in these movies, but it's not like he's doing anything special as an actor in most of them So while it's a nice stat to have on your resume, it doesn't really make the actor great. I doubt he'll get near DiCaprio's individual acting nods, which say much more. But Chalamet could be on double digit BP nominated films before the decade is over. Chalamet has been very impressive in this respect (and Dune to me is the BP of 2021, fuck that Power of the Dog nonsense). I think he could overtake Leo, but he won't do so leading so many projects. It'll be more like Nicholson. |
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Post by wallsofjericho on Feb 10, 2022 9:56:20 GMT
It will be a big figure. He's always going to have access to the best scripts and directors which certainly helps.
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Nah, they're just jealous.
