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Post by cherry68 on Feb 5, 2022 19:32:35 GMT
Let's hope they'll be entertaining!
2 silver medals for Italy 🇮🇹 today :
Women 3000 metres, ice speed skating 🥈 ⛸️ (Francesca Lollobrigida, Gina 's great grand niece);
Mixed team relay, ice speed skating 🥈⛸️
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 5, 2022 21:04:25 GMT
I didn't even know they had started
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Post by cherry68 on Feb 8, 2022 13:45:34 GMT
Italy won mixed doubles curling gold. 🥇 They won all games to the final, 11 out of 11.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 11, 2022 2:47:42 GMT
Did anyone see that second snowboard halfpipe run from Hirano? I don't know anything about this sport, but even to me it is patently obvious that the score was rigged against him. That made Scotty James look like a complete amateur in comparison.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 11, 2022 2:59:32 GMT
Well, he just went and did it again, so the judges had their hands tied. Gold medal to Ayumu Hirano! 
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 11, 2022 3:05:11 GMT
Ledecka didn't do great on Super G this time, but that was expected. She's the current leader, but that won't last. She's still the queen of of all upsets.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 11, 2022 20:51:02 GMT
Curling is the coolest winter sport. It's a game of analysis and strategy. Unlike, say, American football, it's actually pretty fun to watch this supposed strategy play out. As opposed to football's "run fast, don't get hit, win" version of strategy, there's cool stuff with rock placement intended for shots you're making in the future. It looks like tons of fun to both play and to watch.
Currently watching China's women's team get trounced by the USA. 6th end right now.
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Post by cherry68 on Feb 11, 2022 22:35:21 GMT
Curling is the coolest winter sport. It's a game of analysis and strategy. Unlike, say, American football, it's actually pretty fun to watch this supposed strategy play out. As opposed to football's "run fast, don't get hit, win" version of strategy, there's cool stuff with rock placement intended for shots you're making in the future. It looks like tons of fun to both play and to watch. Currently watching China's women's team get trounced by the USA. 6th end right now. Watch the Italian movie La mossa del pinguino about curling.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 12, 2022 2:31:14 GMT
That Van Der Poel world record in the 10,000 was shocking. Yiiiikes.
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Post by countjohn on Feb 14, 2022 4:40:55 GMT
I'm still laughing at the commentator saying the French figure skater "made me feel like I walked into a store I can't afford" 
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Post by countjohn on Feb 14, 2022 20:40:32 GMT
The figure skating decision was BS. The Olympics used to be tougher on PED's than anybody, but now even baseball takes a harder line on it than they do.
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Post by cherry68 on Feb 14, 2022 21:47:46 GMT
The figure skating decision was BS. The Olympics used to be tougher on PED's than anybody, but now even baseball takes a harder line on it than they do. I think they are allowing her to compete until the investigation is over because she's underage (only 15 yo). She might be a victim herself. Anyway, if doping is confirmed, her results will be invalid.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 14, 2022 22:10:35 GMT
The figure skating decision was BS. The Olympics used to be tougher on PED's than anybody, but now even baseball takes a harder line on it than they do. I think they are allowing her to compete until the investigation is over because she's underage (only 15 yo). She might be a victim herself. Anyway, if doping is confirmed, her results will be invalid. I agree with both viewpoints here. I think that Russia has been softballed for so long that they know they can get away with it. They can't compete under a Russian flag, but they still get to compete. Not really the hardest punishment in the world. That said, this particular case is possibly people manipulating and screwing with her without her consent, and so long as there aren't any more positive tests, I don't really have an opinion on her in particular. I think that the only way forward now if they want to squash this is to go nuclear and refuse all Russian athletes because of their committee's poor behavior. I hate to say that, as the VAST, VAST majority of Russian athletes are clean and fair, and the amount of collateral damage from the kind of move I'm suggesting is enormous. But the soft behavior that has been taken hasn't really done much to dissuade bad actors. On a more positive note, has anyone been keeping with Roiseland and the Norwegian biathlon team? Extraordinary work there - Roiseland is on track to be the winningest athlete in winter Olympic history. She is destroying the competition in each race, it's really cool to see. I am a but worried about her teammate Tandrevold, who has collapsed twice crossing the finish line and has needed medical attention both times. The first time, she blacked out for the entire final lap, and the second time she was in bronze medal position before fading and stumbling across the finish in 14th. It's a little scary to see a major player have such serious health problem.
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Post by cherry68 on Feb 15, 2022 6:28:40 GMT
Sofia Goggia 🇮🇹 won silver 🥈 only 23 days after her bad knee accident. She hasn't fully recovered yet, that's why she didn't take part in super G, but she worked really hard to be there. Kudos.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 15, 2022 12:09:41 GMT
Does anyone else find it more fun to watch the lower level athletes in a lot of sports? I just turned on the TV for a moment to live figure skating with some Estonian skater, and she doesn't look like some unattainable superhuman. Her jumps are still crazy impressive, mind. I think it is fun to watch the competitors that aren't going for a medal and just get to compete on the Olympic stage.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 15, 2022 22:10:47 GMT
Never count the Swiss women's curling team out. That was an impressive comeback in the 9th against USA, and they sealed it with some great 10th play that made the last few shots for the U.S. crazy difficult. Terrific match.
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Post by countjohn on Feb 16, 2022 4:36:30 GMT
Not a figure skating expert, but I thought the Japanese girls should have been in 2nd and 3rd. Not sure if the scoring system was changed for more of an emphasis on difficulty over execution, but they just looked a lot cleaner than the other two Russian girls. Don't see how you can be in second place when you fall on your ass. I know they account for the difficulty of the routine but it seems like you should actually have to complete it successfully.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 16, 2022 4:51:16 GMT
Not a figure skating expert, but I thought the Japanese girls should have been in 2nd and 3rd. Not sure if the scoring system was changed for more of an emphasis on difficulty over execution, but they just looked a lot cleaner than the other two Russian girls. Don't see how you can be in second place when you fall on your ass. I know they account for the difficulty of the routine but it seems like you should actually have to complete it successfully. In other performance sports, landing flat on your ass means that you are getting a low score, guaranteed. From BMX freestyle to freestyle skiing, you're done if you completely botch an element. I don't understand why figure skating is different.
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Post by cherry68 on Feb 16, 2022 7:39:31 GMT
To answer the guys above. There's a score system that gives you points for every type of jump or combination. If you don't complete the required degrees (like 720° for instance) your jump will be degraded, so considered a 360° one with lower score. If you complete the rotation but then you fall, you'll get the full score for the jump but you'll get a deduction, usually one point, for the fall.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 16, 2022 15:19:02 GMT
To answer the guys above. There's a score system that gives you points for every type of jump or combination. If you don't complete the required degrees (like 720° for instance) your jump will be degraded, so considered a 360° one with lower score. If you complete the rotation but then you fall, you'll get the full score for the jump but you'll get a deduction, usually one point, for the fall. I understand the scoring system (well, sort of, I still can't follow it in practice), I just don't understand why figure skating operates so differently from the other sports that judge "tricks."
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Post by cherry68 on Feb 16, 2022 17:04:23 GMT
To answer the guys above. There's a score system that gives you points for every type of jump or combination. If you don't complete the required degrees (like 720° for instance) your jump will be degraded, so considered a 360° one with lower score. If you complete the rotation but then you fall, you'll get the full score for the jump but you'll get a deduction, usually one point, for the fall. I understand the scoring system (well, sort of, I still can't follow it in practice), I just don't understand why figure skating operates so differently from the other sports that judge "tricks." Well, few decades ago figure skating judges decided basing on what they liked more. This sport has music and an artistic aspect too. It's not simply a physical exercise.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 16, 2022 18:07:45 GMT
I understand the scoring system (well, sort of, I still can't follow it in practice), I just don't understand why figure skating operates so differently from the other sports that judge "tricks." Well, few decades ago figure skating judges decided basing on what they liked more. This sport has music and an artistic aspect too. It's not simply a physical exercise. I'm aware of that, but I think that if you're failing the physical aspects, it ruins the artistic flow as well.
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Post by ibbi on Feb 16, 2022 22:36:33 GMT
To answer the guys above. There's a score system that gives you points for every type of jump or combination. If you don't complete the required degrees (like 720° for instance) your jump will be degraded, so considered a 360° one with lower score. If you complete the rotation but then you fall, you'll get the full score for the jump but you'll get a deduction, usually one point, for the fall. I understand the scoring system (well, sort of, I still can't follow it in practice), I just don't understand why figure skating operates so differently from the other sports that judge "tricks." Gymnastics does the same things. You can straight up fuck something up but if your difficulty is high you'll still likely have a shot.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 16, 2022 22:46:16 GMT
I understand the scoring system (well, sort of, I still can't follow it in practice), I just don't understand why figure skating operates so differently from the other sports that judge "tricks." Gymnastics does the same things. You can straight up fuck something up but if your difficulty is high you'll still likely have a shot. I forgot about gymnastics. I've never cared for either one very much, so I'll just admit that the way they are played isn't for me and stick with the more X-Games sort of stuff.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 17, 2022 13:05:29 GMT
Tara Lipinsky and Johnny Weir look like they should be commentators for the Hunger Games
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