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Post by Brother Fease on Feb 4, 2022 2:03:45 GMT
Will Smith and Benedict Cumberbatch are locks. No way they miss here. Both actors scored Globe, Critics Choice, SAG, and BAFTA nominations. Smith won NBR. Cumberbatch won NY. Here are your remaining contenders:
PROBABLE
Andrew Garfield - Won the Globe for Best Actor in a Comedy or Musical. Scored Critics Choice and SAG nominations.
Denzel Washington - Nominated for the Globe (Drama), Critics Choice, and SAG.
Javier Bardem - Nominated for the Globe (Drama) and SAG.
Mahershala Ali - Nominated for Globe (Drama) and BAFTA.
Peter Dinklage - Nominated for Globe (Comedy/Musical) and Critics Choice.
Leonardo Dicaprio - Nominated for Globe (Comedy/Musical) and BAFTA.
WILDCARDS
Nicolas Cage - Nominated for a Critics Choice.
Hidetoshi Nishihima - Won NSFC trophy.
Simon Rex - Won LA trophy.
Adeel Akhtar & Stephen Graham - Nominated for the BAFTA.
Cooper Hoffman & Anthony Ramos - Nominated for the Globe (Comedy/Musical).
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Post by stephen on Feb 4, 2022 2:05:26 GMT
Nothing's changed for me. Garfield, Washington and DiCaprio.
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Post by flasuss on Feb 4, 2022 2:07:43 GMT
It's silly to not bet on Garfield and Denzel. I'm thinking Di Caprio for the last spot, but he's not a lock by any means.
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 4, 2022 2:13:13 GMT
DiCaprio's BAFTA nom is a bit strange considering it makes little sense as a jury pick, and equally little sense as a top 2 vote. Not sure what to make of it. If he were snubbed, I'd have pegged his Oscar nom chances at 2%, but now it has to be at like 40% or so.
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Post by morton on Feb 4, 2022 2:13:30 GMT
For now I’m switching back to DiCaprio for the last spot. The SAG miss was really weird, but Don’t Look Up did very well today, so I think he can get in.
Plus Sorkin films tend to do well with guilds but not as well at the Oscars, so I could definitely see that happening again. Maybe just a Best Actress and Best Original Screenplay nomination for Being the Ricardos since I’m more confident today that Drive My Car can get one of the last two spots for Best Picture, which leaves the last spot as a battle royale beween BtR, Tick, Tick…Boom!, The Tragedy of Macbeth, and Nightmare Alley.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 4, 2022 2:16:17 GMT
Washington, Garfield and Bardem.
First two are obvious. No explanation s neccesary. With Bardem, Being The Ricardos feels like it's likely to be much stronger with AMPAS than it is with the Brits, especially based on Guild performance. Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz 's story is uniquely Hollywood and American. They are much bigger icons in the States and in Hollywood. and I feel like that will give Bardem the slight edge for the 5th spot.
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Post by filmnoir on Feb 4, 2022 2:38:39 GMT
Like Olivia Colman, Andrew Garfield took a huge hit today. He will be nominated, but he is done in as far as winning.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 4, 2022 8:37:51 GMT
Well 1X nominated white youngish males often miss Gyllenhaal, Hawke (not that young) etc.......but I say Garfield wasn't hurt that much today - winning was always a stretch - so he's in. He's 3rd or maybe dropped to 4th......could miss, but I don't see it. DiCaprio may be 4th or gulp 3rd - I can not believe I'm saying that but DLU has a higher upside with the Academy than BAFTA and it had a great day at BAFTA....... Washington is 5th and throughout this year has been 4th prior to this DiCaprio surge....... Denzel is in for the same reason he's not winning (and never was) - he gives a movie star turn - identifiable, in his past history but not enough to "transform" - not enough to win a 3rd......he's been overrated as a "lock" nominee all year........BUT if Garfield misses he is helped the most since again he brings his gravitas with him......will be interesting to see what TToM does Oscar morning - there is a Shakespeare bias, you've seen it, no one really passionately supports the movie........but its peers might. Prior to the BAFTA I would have said Cage as a NGNG pick but that was always a stretch and now seems willingly wrong if I stick with that so ......would love it if it was Rex who is my #2 but ......well that's my heart messing with my head......again .......
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Post by JangoB on Feb 4, 2022 8:43:24 GMT
I'm going with the boring option: Garfield, Denzel (I just can't bring myself to call him by the last name...he's fucking Denzel and that's all there is to it!) and Bardem.
Of course a DiCaprio nomination wouldn't surprise me either. But maybe this category is ripe for some random surprise? Like Mahershala Ali or something?
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 4, 2022 8:59:28 GMT
Washington has NEVER needed BAFTA. Him being nominated there or not has zero bearing on his standing in the OSCAR race (especially since he was always going to be a Jury save if he got in. So a random selection of 7 to 10 people deciding not to nod him means zilch to his standing in the race with voters).He hit all the precursors he needs. If anything, I actually think his regularly scheduled snub there helps his chances of potentially being a surprise winner at SAG. Seen a few actors on social media express surprise and disgust at his snub: It's worth putting a few bucks on Denzel winning SAG in light of BAFTA being BAFTA with him . Still a couple weeks of voting left. I think all this shows is Denzel is probably at least 3rd, and always has been. If Garfield can't even get the support of the British block, which should have been guaranteed, he's not a strong as people thought and likely is not ahead. of Denzel. I think he can make it in, but a snub wouldn't surprise me, and I have him behind Denzel. 5th spot is likely between Bardem and DiCaprio (his SAG miss was huge and the fact that he's won nothing and won't win anything is too big to ignore . He'd be pure filler. Couldn't even get in AACTA). I already said why I think Bardem might edge it, but there is a scenario where Garifield misses and DiCaprio and Bardem both get in. Could be tight between those 3.
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 4, 2022 9:07:55 GMT
Denzel, Garfield and Leo
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Post by franklin on Feb 4, 2022 10:50:44 GMT
Garfield, Denzel, and DiCaprio.
To me the Bardem nomination and the DiCaprio snub at SAG is just a fluke, and it's the SAG members just being petty against him.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 4, 2022 10:59:35 GMT
Garfield, Denzel, and DiCaprio. To me the Bardem nomination and the DiCaprio snub at SAG is just a fluke, and it's the SAG members just being petty against him. Why would SAG members be petty against DiCaprio . He's arguably the most popular male actor with SAG (tied with Denzel for 6 individual film nominations). When they usually have a chance to nominate DiCaprio, they will. I think they just saw Don't Look Up as a relatively minor performance for him, and they know they will have plenty of opportunities to nominate him again for much stronger work. If there is one actor you can't complain about being unfairly treated by SAG, it's DiCaprio.
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Post by stephen on Feb 4, 2022 14:26:35 GMT
Garfield, Denzel, and DiCaprio. To me the Bardem nomination and the DiCaprio snub at SAG is just a fluke, and it's the SAG members just being petty against him. Why would SAG members be petty against DiCaprio . He's arguably the most popular male actor with SAG (tied with Denzel for 6 individual film nominations). When they usually have a chance to nominate DiCaprio, they will. I think they just saw Don't Look Up as a relatively minor performance for him, and they know they will have plenty of opportunities to nominate him again for much stronger work. If there is one actor you can't complain about being unfairly treated by SAG, it's DiCaprio. Yeah, I don't see the snub as SAG being petty against DiCaprio, but it is still a very weird miss for him, especially if he winds up getting the Oscar nomination.
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Post by speeders on Feb 4, 2022 14:39:06 GMT
Garfield, Washington, DiCaprio. This category has felt locked to me since November.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 4, 2022 14:44:29 GMT
Garfield, Denzel, and DiCaprio. To me the Bardem nomination and the DiCaprio snub at SAG is just a fluke, and it's the SAG members just being petty against him. Yeah..........Maybe "petty" isn't exactly right - though I get what you meant obviously - but "fluke" possibly is the exact right word. You can say he got swallowed up in the Ensemble SAG nod.....you can say his missing is not as significant as has been made out (this year) - given his comedic role and the size of the cast and the now apparent strength of the picture you can say his position improved dramatically in the last 24 hours too.......... Could he miss.......yes..........aside from Smith and Cumby .......there are no locks in BA aside from those 2 guys (not even Garfield........not even Washington)..........but I think you reasonably could call DiCap 3rd and say the picture is not performing as well as we expect - love it or hate it - now without an acting nom. That's the rebuttal to that "but he missed SAG" argument.........it is eyebrow raising but not a dealbreaker especially when BtR looks visibly weaker than it did on SAG nomination morning and DLU looks infinitely stronger........
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Post by Mattsby on Feb 6, 2022 20:38:30 GMT
Garfield, Denzel, and Cage who I'm sticking with to the bitter end. I see those guys getting more #1 and #2 votes over Bardem and Leo - and those placements decide who get nominated. Leo missing SAG was his killer... I don't see the older Academy actors going for him when SAG didn't. Ricardos missing Ensemble and whiffing BAFTA proves it less a player.
Go pig or go home!
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Post by morton on Feb 6, 2022 20:50:25 GMT
Garfield, Denzel, and Cage who I'm sticking with to the bitter end. I see those guys getting more #1 and #2 votes over Bardem and Leo - and those placements decide who get nominated. Leo missing SAG was his killer... I don't see the older Academy actors going for him when SAG didn't. Ricardos missing Ensemble and whiffing BAFTA proves it less a player. Go pig or go home! I’m not brave enough now to go with someone other than Bardem or DiCaprio, but I do think those #1 votes could mean there’s a surprise for the last spot on Tuesday. Of course some years it seems like it will go that way, but performances like Robert Duvall in The Judge or Jacki Weaver in Silver Linings Playbook somehow get enough #1 votes, but then in other years we get pleasant surprises like Marion Cotillard getting in for Two Days, One Night or huge shocks like Marina de Tavira being nominated despite not getting in anywhere else not even at any regionals I believe.
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Post by Brother Fease on Feb 6, 2022 21:03:26 GMT
Garfield, Denzel, and Cage who I'm sticking with to the bitter end. I see those guys getting more #1 and #2 votes over Bardem and Leo - and those placements decide who get nominated. Leo missing SAG was his killer... I don't see the older Academy actors going for him when SAG didn't. Ricardos missing Ensemble and whiffing BAFTA proves it less a player. Go pig or go home! I’m not brave enough now to go with someone other than Bardem or DiCaprio, but I do think those #1 votes could mean there’s a surprise for the last spot on Tuesday. Of course some years it seems like it will go that way, but performances like Robert Duvall in The Judge or Jacki Weaver in Silver Linings Playbook somehow get enough #1 votes, but then in other years we get pleasant surprises like Marion Cotillard getting in for Two Days, One Night or huge shocks like Marina de Tavira being nominated despite not getting in anywhere else not even at any regionals I believe. Duvall was nominated at the Globes, Critics Choice, and SAG. Not sure how anybody was surprised he got nominated.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 6, 2022 21:06:43 GMT
I think Garfield is safe and then is likely 2 out of Washington, DiCaprio, and Bardem. I’ll still hold out delusional hope for a Cage passion nom but don’t think it’ll actually happen.
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Post by morton on Feb 6, 2022 21:19:17 GMT
I’m not brave enough now to go with someone other than Bardem or DiCaprio, but I do think those #1 votes could mean there’s a surprise for the last spot on Tuesday. Of course some years it seems like it will go that way, but performances like Robert Duvall in The Judge or Jacki Weaver in Silver Linings Playbook somehow get enough #1 votes, but then in other years we get pleasant surprises like Marion Cotillard getting in for Two Days, One Night or huge shocks like Marina de Tavira being nominated despite not getting in anywhere else not even at any regionals I believe. Duvall was nominated at the Globes, Critics Choice, and SAG. Not sure how anybody was surprised he got nominated. Sorry I wasn’t surprised he was nominated just including him in nominations that at least to me seem odd in that there are enough voters out there that actually ranked it #1. Like I could see some performances getting in at other places because of their voting systems, so a performance appears on enough ballots but towards the bottom, it can get in because voters are lazy and/or they haven’t seen much, but there are head scratchers when it comes to the Oscars because I wonder sometimes how someone or something could get enough #1 votes to be nominated. I’m not talking about bad winners or who I think was a bad winner, but filler, because even though rationally I know everything or everyone is going to have their fans, irrationally “I’m like enough people voted that performance #1. Why?!? When they could have went with someone outside of the box.”
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