|
Post by futuretrunks on Jan 14, 2022 23:56:26 GMT
I'm a fan of hers, but I think the biggest problem with K-Stew is that she doesn't do enough prestige films. Too much is riding on this one movie.
|
|
|
Post by Brother Fease on Jan 15, 2022 0:02:32 GMT
Let me put it simple for everybody:
1. Kidman - Critics Choice and SAG nominee. Won Globe. 2. Gaga - Globe, Critics Choice, SAG nominee. Won NY Film Critics 3. Colman & Chastain - Globe, Critics Choice, SAG nominee.
5. Haim & Stewart - Globe, Critics Choice nominee. 7. Ziegler - Globe & NBR winner 7. Hudson - SAG nominee. 7. Cruz - LA and NSFC winner 10. Emilia Jones - Lead actress in a popular Oscar contender 10. Jennifer Lawrence - Globe nominee in the Comedy/Musical category.
Stewart is currently in its 5th to wildcard spot. It will depend on what BAFTA says.
|
|
filmnoir
Full Member
Posts: 825
Likes: 408
|
Post by filmnoir on Jan 15, 2022 0:14:28 GMT
Stewart was presumed to be the front runner - way too early. She won a bunch of regional critics awards, but missed with the more prestigious NBR, NYFC, LAFC, NSFC. The actresses nominated for SAG are all either Oscar winners or previous nominees. She has the Twilight baggage. And Spencer is a weak film to float an Oscar winner.
BAFTA snubbed Carey Mulligan last year and she and Promising Young Woman were more highly regarded - than Stewart and Spencer.
|
|
|
Post by Brother Fease on Jan 15, 2022 2:44:34 GMT
Stewart was presumed to be the front runner - way too early. She won a bunch of regional critics awards, but missed with the more prestigious NBR, NYFC, LAFC, NSFC. The actresses nominated for SAG are all either Oscar winners or previous nominees. She has the Twilight baggage. And Spencer is a weak film to float an Oscar winner.
BAFTA snubbed Carey Mulligan last year and she and Promising Young Woman were more highly regarded - than Stewart and Spencer.
I agree with everything you wrote here. Stewart is not an established actress or in an established film. We will see what BAFTA says. She unfortunately moved from a strong contender to win best actress to being a wildcard.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 2:53:06 GMT
Stewart is not an "established actress"? Y'all are really grasping at straws now...
|
|
|
Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 15, 2022 3:15:19 GMT
Let me put it simple for everybody: 1. Kidman - Critics Choice and SAG nominee. Won Globe. 2. Gaga - Globe, Critics Choice, SAG nominee. Won NY Film Critics 3. Colman & Chastain - Globe, Critics Choice, SAG nominee. 5. Haim & Stewart - Globe, Critics Choice nominee. 7. Ziegler - Globe & NBR winner 7. Hudson - SAG nominee. 7. Cruz - LA and NSFC winner 10. Emilia Jones - Lead actress in a popular Oscar contender 10. Jennifer Lawrence - Globe nominee in the Comedy/Musical category. Stewart is currently in its 5th to wildcard spot. It will depend on what BAFTA says. I know you are ranking based on existing precursors but I really don’t buy that Haim is tied for 5th with Stewart or even ahead of Ziegler, Hudson, or Cruz.
|
|
|
Post by Brother Fease on Jan 15, 2022 3:16:28 GMT
Stewart is not an "established actress"? Y'all are really grasping at straws now... Let me first off say, I am not a "Stewart hater" or agree with Donald Trump's "assessment of her". I haven't really seen the Twilight films. Stewart is by no means seen in the same plane as say Rachel McAdams, Emma Stone, Margo Robbie, Jennifer Lawrence, Scarlett Johansson, or Emily Blunt. But lets face it: Twilight reputation has stuck with her. When you think of Stewart, you think Bella. That's the reality. Apparently it took you guys AFTER the SAG nominations to no longer call her the front-runner. After the Globe loss, I immediately said Kidman was the clear front-runner and you guys got all huffy and puffy.
|
|
filmnoir
Full Member
Posts: 825
Likes: 408
|
Post by filmnoir on Jan 15, 2022 3:24:18 GMT
Stewart is not an "established actress"? Y'all are really grasping at straws now... She doesn't have the status within the industry of Kidman, Gaga, Colman, Chastain, Hudson who all are either Oscar winners or have been nominated before. Same with the Globe, SAG, BAFTA. And she doesn't have a strong enough film to compensate for that.
|
|
|
Post by mhynson27 on Jan 15, 2022 3:40:19 GMT
Let me put it simple for everybody: 1. Kidman - Critics Choice and SAG nominee. Won Globe. 2. Gaga - Globe, Critics Choice, SAG nominee. Won NY Film Critics 3. Colman & Chastain - Globe, Critics Choice, SAG nominee. 5. Haim & Stewart - Globe, Critics Choice nominee. 7. Ziegler - Globe & NBR winner 7. Hudson - SAG nominee. 7. Cruz - LA and NSFC winner 10. Emilia Jones - Lead actress in a popular Oscar contender 10. Jennifer Lawrence - Globe nominee in the Comedy/Musical category. Stewart is currently in its 5th to wildcard spot. It will depend on what BAFTA says. I know you are ranking based on existing precursors but I really don’t buy that Haim is tied for 5th with Stewart or even ahead of Ziegler, Hudson, or Cruz. Nah mate, it's that simple. Fease's algorithms never lie.
|
|
|
Post by pupdurcs on Jan 15, 2022 6:36:23 GMT
Stewart is not an "established actress"? Y'all are really grasping at straws now... She doesn't have the status within the industry of Kidman, Gaga, Colman, Chastain, Hudson who all are either Oscar winners or have been nominated before. Same with the Globe, SAG, BAFTA. And she doesn't have a strong enough film to compensate for that. This is interesting. I've always observed that Stewart for some years now post- Twilight has been something of a "critics pet". Because she makes a lot of indie/arthouse/European films that naturally appeal to critics like Clouds Of Sils Maria, Personal Shopper, On The Road, Certain Women etc. Critics praise (or overpraise) her work in those films, but those films have such limited audience appeal that many people (even many of her peers) wouldn't bother watching them. But critics have been pushing her for years, so I'm not shocked they tried to push her to Oscar Best Actress frontrunner status when an obvious opportunity arrived in the form of an arty biopic with one of the most famous women of the last century. However, the last mainstream thing Stewart did was the Charlie's Angels reboot , where she showed little charm or charisma and seemed to have progressed very little as an actress since her Twilight days. The film flopped, but it still would have been seen by far more people than any of her indies that critics love, and few would have thought she'd become a better actress since her Twilight days. So yeah, there is probably a fairly wide disconnect between how audiences (and maybe some in the industry & peers) view Stewart, and how critics/film twitter types view her. Critics think she’s this great, daring actress whom they always like in indie or auteur movies. Many mainstream audiences think she is a one-note, mannered actress with no charisma. The likes of Margot Robbie have little to fear from her. Stewart probably needs to deliver something resembling a great performance in a mainstream film, where audiences don't have to be told by critics she is "great". That should be self-evident . She is too reliant on critics telling people she is supposed to be a great actress, as opposed to it happening organically. It's almost like Stewart has become a pet project by critics to see if they could rehabilitate her reputation after being widely dismissed as an actor because of Twilight. I think she can still get the Oscar nomination btw. She was hyped from heaven to earth by critics for months as the one to beat, and that might just be enough to get her over the finish line. She'd had the PR and then some. But a snub probably wouldn't surprise at this point either.
|
|
|
Post by iheartamyadams on Jan 15, 2022 8:54:27 GMT
She will.
Her frontrunner buzz was long running enough, and she’s the only biopic performance that isn’t drawing from the same well as the rest.. The Academy is a tad more highbrow than SAG, and there is absolutely no way that they’re going to have four basic, poorly reviewed films of this sort see lead acting nominations. It’s never happened, and I don’t see it happening now.
The Stewart SAG snub was shocking, but I think this is more of a case of the industry being cooler on Larrain than critics. Portman also fell way short of her immediate frontrunner buzz, and the film also tanked relative to expectations. When you consider that Spencer has even worse audience ratings, what’s happening does make sense.
There’s also usually a newcomer in lead actress. It doesn’t necessarily have to be Stewart, but it’s another reason why I’m skeptical of the SAG five repeating at the Oscars.
|
|
|
Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 15, 2022 19:07:04 GMT
I think the biggest obstacle for Stewart right now is the film itself. Spencer is clearly divisive so it will come down her there is enough passion for her performance to overcome that. I think she’s pretty universally praised but the movie is alienating to a lot of voters.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 23:21:02 GMT
|
|
|
Post by countjohn on Jan 16, 2022 1:17:54 GMT
I think she still gets a nod, but this does finish her as a threat to win I think. She's probably not making BAFTA either just because of their silly rules.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 13:55:07 GMT
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 15:57:39 GMT
She will. Her frontrunner buzz was long running enough, and she’s the only biopic performance that isn’t drawing from the same well as the rest.. The Academy is a tad more highbrow than SAG, and there is absolutely no way that they’re going to have four basic, poorly reviewed films of this sort see lead acting nominations. It’s never happened, and I don’t see it happening now. The Stewart SAG snub was shocking, but I think this is more of a case of the industry being cooler on Larrain than critics. Portman also fell way short of her immediate frontrunner buzz, and the film also tanked relative to expectations. When you consider that Spencer has even worse audience ratings, what’s happening does make sense. There’s also usually a newcomer in lead actress. It doesn’t necessarily have to be Stewart, but it’s another reason why I’m skeptical of the SAG five repeating at the Oscars. I have to say, you deserve major props for your prognostication. Cruz and Stewart in brilliantly reviewed films replace Gaga and Hudson in their films with mixed to poor reviews.
|
|