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Post by michael128 on Dec 21, 2021 20:35:28 GMT
Were the first two ever competitive for above the line wins? Why did PJ miss out on BD for the second? Adapted Screenplay? Was there just a general consensus to wait for the 3rd to hand out all the big awards? Were it's 11 wins seen as awarding the trilogy as a whole? Answer me, please.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Dec 21, 2021 20:44:55 GMT
The Fellowship of the Ring was probably next in line for Best Picture seeing as it won BAFTA and was a legitimate phenomenon, but A Beautiful Mind was always going to win.
Jackson missing out on BD for The Two Towers seems like a bit of an anomaly. He got all the necessary precursors and got beat out by the inspired pick of Almodóvar. I suppose it was because the film, being the middle child of the trilogy, was never really in contention for the win so the directors branch went for their passion picks. It wasn't the surprise or novelty of Fellowship and everyone knew the grand finale was coming so there wasn't any urgency to celebrate it with awards.
Yeah, the 11 wins of Return of the King are generally seen as awarding the entire trilogy. It was the culmination of all of that team's achievements and they managed to stick the landing (I can only imagine how awful it would've been if King sucked) on a massive project the likes of which had never been done before.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Dec 21, 2021 21:21:31 GMT
As stated above, Fellowship of the Ring was behind A Beautiful Mind. A Beautiful Mind was not losing that year. Maybe it's hard to imagine nowadays given Mulholland Dr. and Fellowship of the Ring have aged better, but in 2001...... it led the charge in the media as the top horse. As for 2002, Pedro Almodovar was well respected in the industry. And he was gonna get the votes from the directors branch that he won't muster enough of for Best Picture. It's pretty reasonable to believe that he would overtake Jackson for the Best Director nomination. Talk to Her was the critics darling, was considered the main foreign film of the year, and definitely could've overtaken Stephen Daldry or Peter Jackson. I'm here wondering if Y Tu Mama Tambien could've also gotten a director's nomination. Altho I remember most of the steam it had was in 2001 which it wasn't eligible for, so by 2002 it might've died down a bit. But I think it also had a chance to score a Best Director nomination for Cuaron and replace Stephen Daldry who was behind Rob Marshall, Martin Scorsese, and Roman Polanski in the pecking order of that category. Y Tu Mama Tambien is ranked #2 for most critically acclaimed film of 2002 based on this link criticstop10.com/best-movies-of-2002/ , so it definitely had a chance. Maybe just wasn't promoted well enough, but I think between Talk to Her and Y Tu.... both were talked about equally as great films by the media.
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