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Post by jakesully on Sept 15, 2021 14:05:16 GMT
Happy Bday to very talented Tommy Lee Jones. He turned 75 years old today I think Mr Jones is an incredibly versatile actor. He can do drama so well of course (he's starred in a lot of films where he is playing a no nonsense hard ass and does it flawlessly ) but he is also really great at comedy too. He played off Will Smith perfectly in the first Men in Black film (I didn't care for the sequels but the first one was a lot of fun) He's also so damn charismatic & cool /quick witted in The Fugitive (well deserved Oscar win for Supporting Actor imo) And was so brilliant in No Country For Old Men. Plus he gave us all the "implied facepalm" meme from that film What are some of your favorite roles or films he's been in over the years? I'd love to hear them.
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Post by jakesully on Sept 15, 2021 14:07:02 GMT
I also wasn't aware that he was in a bunch of Japanese coffee commercials. That is awesome!
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Post by JangoB on Sept 15, 2021 14:09:12 GMT
I love him! Love his unfussy approach, love his delivery, love his whole look - he's a perfect screen actor.
And I suggest every fan to watch his DP/30 interview which is one of the greatest 'I don't wanna be here' interviews I've seen!
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 15, 2021 14:15:15 GMT
He's a fascinating guy.......I think his 2 best performances are on TV The Executioner's Song (pic below) and Sunset LimitedAs an actor I rank him just outside the Duvall level - he's one of those guys that could contend for the "within the top 15 American film actors" I'm always saying is so overcrowded (Hanks, atm DiCap, Bridges, Washington, Duvall, George C Scott etc) very smart guy too ...............was Al Gore's roommate @ Harvard......hmmmmmm
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Sept 15, 2021 14:18:57 GMT
Al Gore looks like a statue or a really good wax work in that picture.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Sept 15, 2021 14:22:25 GMT
His interviews are so entertaining to watch. Great actor. My top 5 performances are:
1) The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada 2) The Exceutioner's Song 3) No Country For Old Men 4) JFK 5) Coal Miner's Daughter
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Post by stephen on Sept 15, 2021 14:28:04 GMT
I feel like this man has been seventy-five for the last quarter-century.
Love him.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Sept 15, 2021 17:34:41 GMT
One of my favorites... I remember back in 2007 people were clowning him for his nomination for In the Valley of Elah, to which I was probably his biggest supporter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 17:58:27 GMT
I don't care.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 18:01:35 GMT
Absolutely he should have won for Lincoln. I'm still annoyed that he didn't.
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 15, 2021 19:09:28 GMT
HBD! Fav perfs...
The Sunset Limited The Homesman Lonesome Dove Cobb Coal Miner’s Daughter The Executioner’s Song The Fugitive NCFOM
and there are a bunch more I like too. JFK, Lincoln, Barn Burning, The Client, Space Cowboys, Good Old Boys, MiB. Great, serious, effortlessly daunting actor but his best stuff is when he's frailer (Sunset Limited, Homesman) or, rare for him, madly charming (Cobb). I put him neck and neck with Duvall. I'm a fan... underrated director too... needs a good, substantial role to do next, been dim since 2014...
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 15, 2021 19:22:52 GMT
Big fan of Mr. Jones. Many great performances from him and master of sarcastic, wry humor. Great career!
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Post by quetee on Sept 15, 2021 21:49:43 GMT
Absolutely he should have won for Lincoln. I'm still annoyed that he didn't. He thought the same. Boy, did he look pissed.
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Post by jakesully on Sept 15, 2021 23:14:44 GMT
He's a fascinating guy.......I think his 2 best performances are on TV The Executioner's Song (pic below) and Sunset LimitedAs an actor I rank him just outside the Duvall level - he's one of those guys that could contend for the "within the top 15 American film actors" I'm always saying is so overcrowded (Hanks, atm DiCap, Bridges, Washington, Duvall, George C Scott etc) very smart guy too ...............was Al Gore's roommate @ Harvard......hmmmmmm I'm embarrassed to say that I haven't seen Sunset Limited yet (and I call myself a film buff smh) I noticed its on HBO Max so I'm gonna stream it sometime this week when I get the chance. I've only heard good to great things about it (can't go wrong with Cormac McCarthy material ). And thats cool Mr Jones directed this as well. I was wondering if you've seen his other directing work? And what'd you think of it. I was very impressed with The Three Burials ... film back when I saw it a long time ago. I'll need to give that one a re watch sometime.
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Post by jakesully on Sept 15, 2021 23:23:19 GMT
One of my favorites... I remember back in 2007 people were clowning him for his nomination for In the Valley of Elah, to which I was probably his biggest supporter. I wasn't on the IMDB boards back then. But I read on another movie forum that went belly up where posters were overwhelmingly saying he was nominated for the wrong movie and should have got nominated for Best Supporting Actor for No Country For Old Men. I remember being in the small minority on the forum supporting his Oscar nom for In the Valley of Elah. Such an underrated performance and well deserved Oscar nom for Best Actor. I also pointed out to them that Javier Bardem was the big favorite to win Best Supporting Actor for NCFOM and he of course did. IMO the Oscars got it right that year.
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Post by futuretrunks on Sept 15, 2021 23:29:02 GMT
Who isn't a fan of Tommy Lee Jones? He's obviously very good in the movie, but no. Crowe in 3:10 to Yuma and Brolin in American Gangster would get votes from me over TLJ in NCFOM easily in that category. Foster in 3:10 to Yuma too. What a year.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 16, 2021 0:25:51 GMT
He's a fascinating guy.......I think his 2 best performances are on TV The Executioner's Song (pic below) and Sunset LimitedAs an actor I rank him just outside the Duvall level - he's one of those guys that could contend for the "within the top 15 American film actors" I'm always saying is so overcrowded (Hanks, atm DiCap, Bridges, Washington, Duvall, George C Scott etc) very smart guy too ...............was Al Gore's roommate @ Harvard......hmmmmmm I'm embarrassed to say that I haven't seen Sunset Limited yet (and I call myself a film buff smh) I noticed its on HBO Max so I'm gonna stream it sometime this week when I get the chance. I've only heard good to great things about it (can't go wrong with Cormac McCarthy material ). And thats cool Mr Jones directed this as well. I was wondering if you've seen his other directing work? And what'd you think of it. I was very impressed with The Three Burials ... film back when I saw it a long time ago. I'll need to give that one a re watch sometime. I think he's directed 4 (?) and I think they're all pretty good or better than that - he definitely has a feel for how to direct other actors and himself and where to place the camera too: Three Burials is one of his best performances and he knows how to frame the whole piece and position himself within it for maximum effect............ In Sunset Limited which is straight up great - especially if you're feeling a little down or philosophical - it has a lot of McCarthy's most direct (and dark) writing in it - and TLJ doesn't try to make "not like a play" either - he's really clever in how he uses close-ups in that one - like there are an insane amount of tight focus shots on both actors and that's definitely a choice he made - the way him and SLJ's faces react when the other is talking (especially) actually helps both performances be much better imo..........sometimes the words are like punches (see SLJ below covering up ........because TLJ won't stop talking and what he's saying is........pretty hard to take) ....... it's an actors showcase......would love to hear your thoughts when you see it...... Iirc the first thing he ever directed was The Good Old Boys on TV and that cast is amazing - Sissy Spacek, Frances McDormand, Bruce McGill, Matt Damon, Sam Shepard.........like he learned how to direct actors by being around all these talented people that first time......that one is a little slow but it's pretty good too which is how I feel about The Homesman also .....I don't think any actor in any of his 4 movies isn't at least "good" (?) and several are a lot better than just good ...........
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 16, 2021 0:43:46 GMT
He's fantastic. Never seen a TLJ performance I didn't like, but one I'll shout-out (mentioned this to pacinoyes a while ago) is his chilling turn as a distant and disaffected Vietnam vet who returns home violent and without purpose in Rolling Thunder (1977) -- penned by Paul Schrader and released a year after Taxi Driver. TLJ is a memorable supporting character who really deserves his own movie, but the best part is when the protagonist played by William Devane invites TLJ to come along for some 70s action movie revenge, and TLJ with a stone face just says "I'll get my gear", and you know everything about this person and his capacity for violence just in that one line delivery.
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Post by jakesully on Sept 16, 2021 0:48:24 GMT
Who isn't a fan of Tommy Lee Jones? He's obviously very good in the movie, but no. Crowe in 3:10 to Yuma and Brolin in American Gangster would get votes from me over TLJ in NCFOM easily in that category. Foster in 3:10 to Yuma too. What a year. Ha good point. Kind of a dumb question to ask. Only one I could think of is maybe just Jim Carrey. Tommy Lee Jones didn't get along with Carrey when they were filming Batman Forever together. It seemed more a lot more one sided "feud" though cause Carrey says he still loves the guy and probably felt Tommy Lee Jones wasn't into that wacky comic book movie. Carrey handled it well imo . The situation came to a head in the middle of production, before the two had their “biggest scene together” on the Joel Schumacher film, when Carrey randomly popped into the same restaurant that Jones was having dinner, he told Macdonald.
“The maitre said, ‘Oh, I hear you’re working with Tommy Lee Jones. He’s over in the corner having dinner.’ I went over and I said, ‘Hey Tommy, how are you doing?’ and the blood just drained from his face,” Carrey said. “And he got up shaking — he must have been in mid kill me fantasy or something like that. And he went to hug me and he said, ‘I hate you. I really don’t like you.’ And I said, ‘What’s the problem?’ and pulled up a chair, which probably wasn’t smart. And he said, ‘I cannot sanction your buffoonery.'”
Macdonald said Jones’ ire likely came from Carrey, who had risen quickly to become a huge star, being the center of attention no matter the room he entered.
Carrey had a different theory.
“He might have been uncomfortable doing that work, too,” he said. “That’s not really his style of stuff.”www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/tommy-lee-jones-hated-working-jim-carrey-batman-forever-1045176/I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that restaurant during that.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Sept 16, 2021 1:11:37 GMT
Happy Birthday to one of the all-time great onscreen grouches. Amazing to think it took his career a whole decade + to properly breakout. A particularly unsung performance of his is the miniseries The Executioner's Song, where he gives an incredibly powerful performance. I also think he was good in all of three of his Oliver Stone films. Surprised they didn’t work together more.
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Post by pupdurcs on Sept 16, 2021 3:10:10 GMT
He's fantastic. Never seen a TLJ performance I didn't like, but one I'll shout-out (mentioned this to pacinoyes a while ago) is his chilling turn as a distant and disaffected Vietnam vet who returns home violent and without purpose in Rolling Thunder (1977) -- penned by Paul Schrader and released a year after Taxi Driver. TLJ is a memorable supporting character who really deserves his own movie, but the best part is when the protagonist played by William Devane invites TLJ to come along for some 70s action movie revenge, and TLJ with a stone face just says "I'll get my gear", and you know everything about this person and his capacity for violence just in that one line delivery. I thought he was legitimately, excruciatingly terrible in Batman Forever as Two-Face/Harvey Dent. He's a great actor, but I don't know what he was aiming for with that performance. Maybe Joel Schumacher asked him to ham it up badly, or maybe he thought he needed to try go that big because Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito successfully did in the previous Batman films. Or maybe he just felt he needed to do that to keep up with Jim Carey's OTT antics as The Riddler. Whatever the reason he made those performance choices, he was not good. I think he is too grounded an actor to do flamboyant effectively. Aaron Eckhart was infinitely better as Dent in The Dark Knight, but it was a shame he was just used as an appetiser to The Joker's main course.
Other than that though, I do find it difficult to think of things where he is not at least solid. He is an extremely fine screen actor, and I think he's got more great work in him...maybe even another Oscar, as I feel he is the kind of actor that can land a truly great "old man" role/performance. Happy birthday 🎂
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 16, 2021 11:52:11 GMT
He's fantastic. Never seen a TLJ performance I didn't like, but one I'll shout-out (mentioned this to pacinoyes a while ago) is his chilling turn as a distant and disaffected Vietnam vet who returns home violent and without purpose in Rolling Thunder (1977) -- penned by Paul Schrader and released a year after Taxi Driver. TLJ is a memorable supporting character who really deserves his own movie, but the best part is when the protagonist played by William Devane invites TLJ to come along for some 70s action movie revenge, and TLJ with a stone face just says "I'll get my gear", and you know everything about this person and his capacity for violence just in that one line delivery. I thought he was legitimately, excruciatingly terrible in Batman Forever as Two-Face/Harvey Dent. He's a great actor, but I don't know what he was aiming for with that performance. Maybe Joel Schumacher asked him to ham it up badly, or maybe he thought he needed to try go that big because Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito successfully did in the previous Batman films. Or maybe he just felt he needed to do that to keep up with Jim Carey's OTT antics as The Riddler. Whatever the reason he made those performance choices, he was not good. I think he is too grounded an actor to do flamboyant effectively. “LUCK….BLIND…STUPID…SIMPLE…DOO DA…CLUELESS…LUCK…HA HA HA HA HA.”
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Post by JangoB on Sept 16, 2021 12:50:10 GMT
He's fantastic. Never seen a TLJ performance I didn't like, but one I'll shout-out (mentioned this to pacinoyes a while ago) is his chilling turn as a distant and disaffected Vietnam vet who returns home violent and without purpose in Rolling Thunder (1977) -- penned by Paul Schrader and released a year after Taxi Driver. TLJ is a memorable supporting character who really deserves his own movie, but the best part is when the protagonist played by William Devane invites TLJ to come along for some 70s action movie revenge, and TLJ with a stone face just says "I'll get my gear", and you know everything about this person and his capacity for violence just in that one line delivery. I thought he was legitimately, excruciatingly terrible in Batman Forever as Two-Face/Harvey Dent. He's a great actor, but I don't know what he was aiming for with that performance. Maybe Joel Schumacher asked him to ham it up badly, or maybe he thought he needed to try go that big because Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito successfully did in the previous Batman films. Or maybe he just felt he needed to do that to keep up with Jim Carey's OTT antics as The Riddler. Whatever the reason he made those performance choices, he was not good. I think he is too grounded an actor to do flamboyant effectively. Aaron Eckhart was infinitely better as Dent in The Dark Knight, but it was a shame he was just used as an appetiser to The Joker's main course.
Other than that though, I do find it difficult to think of things where he is not at least solid. He is an extremely fine screen actor, and I think he's got more great work in him...maybe even another Oscar, as I feel he is the kind of actor that can land a truly great "old man" role/performance. Happy birthday 🎂 Hm, I think it's pretty clear what he was aiming for in Batman Forever - after the darker Burton stuff Schumacher clearly decided to make a pretty damn campy and OTT movie (in retrospect I'm pretty shocked that the studio was so on board - good times!), so TLJ was just being part of that big budget live action cartoon that Schumacher had envisioned. Now, it's indeed reasonable to think that such flamboyant characterizations aren't really his thing, yeah. I think it's all summed up by that story Jim Carrey told where he approached TJL in a restaurant while that movie was being made and TJL started shaking and said to him "I hate you. I really don’t like you. I cannot sanction your buffoonery." I think it's a combination of being a bit uncomfortable in the role and also feeling that Carrey was easily upstaging him because to Carrey the OTT cartoonishness is something he could back then do in his sleep. But I still think TLJ was a trooper there - to me he fit right in with the whole vibe of that movie. He kinda prepared for it in Natural Born Killers too, I think
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 13:10:08 GMT
There's a classic man accessibility to him; and he could be cold whenever it's needed with that stone face of his. I usually like him (JFK, Natural Born Killers, No Country For Old Men) but that win remains eyebrow-raising to me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 13:13:03 GMT
There's a classic man accessibility to him; and he could be cold whenever it's needed with that stone face of his. I usually like him ( JFK, Natural Born Killers, No Country For Old Men) but that win remains eyebrow-raising to me. I think it's a fine performance, but winning over DiCaprio and especially Fiennes was eyebrow-raising indeed. I said it before in this thread, but Lincoln was the perfect time to honor him.
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