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Post by Savager on Jul 20, 2020 19:03:11 GMT
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Post by quetee on Jul 20, 2020 19:14:52 GMT
So they finally reteamed? I know Julia can't wait to get this project going. Haha. She loves Denzel. As for Netflix.... they have money for days. Other Studios can't compete with them.
Is this a movie or limited?
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 20, 2020 19:15:36 GMT
So many pacinoyes snarky comments to make and I think I'm gonna make them because I told you so didn't I....... this is now THREE projects he has post 65 years old..........and just 1 of those 3 is baity (Macbeth) where are all the big mouths that said he'd challenge Nicholson for 12 nods one day? You still believe that? You shouldn't..... ......like I said he ends up with 10 nods/with 3 wins (probably) - which is obviously great - but people who said sh it like "he'll get 4-5 MORE nods" live in a fantasy world ..........and also btw this is yet ANOTHER small time director after Joel Coen. This sounds better than Little Things which still sounds shaky .........and Macbeth still sounds like it has a very high upside obviously......
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Post by Savager on Jul 20, 2020 19:25:55 GMT
Is this a movie or limited? Movie.
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Post by Lubezki on Jul 20, 2020 19:27:38 GMT
So they finally reteamed? I know Julia can't wait to get this project going. Haha. She loves Denzel. As for Netflix.... they have money for days. Other Studios can't compete with them. Is this a movie or limited? Can’t believe it’s been almost 30 years since these two have starred alongside each other! And this is certainly a movie.
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Post by quetee on Jul 20, 2020 19:30:42 GMT
So they finally reteamed? I know Julia can't wait to get this project going. Haha. She loves Denzel. As for Netflix.... they have money for days. Other Studios can't compete with them. Is this a movie or limited? Can’t believe it’s been almost 30 years since these two have starred alongside each other! And this is certainly a movie. I'm surprised too but maybe it had to do with those rumors of them having an affair long ago. If anyone has ever seen an interview with Julia and the topic of Denzel comes up... you can see the love in her eyes.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 20, 2020 19:42:12 GMT
Hmm...sounds intriguing. This may or may not be awardsbait. The synopsis certainly sounds a lot deeper and artier than your usual commercial Denzel action thriller, and Esmail and Roberts track record together with Homecoming suggests they have much more deeper and ambitious aspirations than making a disposable potboiler (odd that Homecoming didn't get more on the radar for TV awards as the reviews were great and it was an ambitious piece, but competition in TV is pretty fierce nowadays). Talk about mental health and race relations certainly make me lean towards the potential of it being an awards play as well as a star power vehicle.
I'll wait and see, but this could be Oscarbait for Julia and Denzel. I'm kind of leaning in that direction based on Homecoming. And with streaming the only game in town for the foreseeable future (as I said with Ryan Gosling and The Gray Man), this is a very smart choice by both stars
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Post by iheartamyadams on Jul 20, 2020 19:47:58 GMT
So many pacinoyes snarky comments to make and I think I'm gonna make them because I told you so didn't I....... this is now THREE projects he has post 65 years old..........and just 1 of those 3 is baity (Macbeth) where are all the big mouths that said he'd challenge Nicholson for 12 nods one day? You still believe that? You shouldn't..... ......like I said he ends up with 10 nods/with 3 wins (probably) - which is obviously great - but people who said sh it like "he'll get 4-5 MORE nods" live in a fantasy world ..........and also btw this is yet ANOTHER small time director after Joel Coen. This sounds better than Little Things which still sounds shaky .........and Macbeth still sounds like it has a very high upside obviously...... It sounds like you’ve jumped to quite a few conclusions with next to nothing to go off of. Who says this can’t be an awards player? That John Lee Hancock film was obviously a major case of trying it, but there’s enough talent and star power here.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 20, 2020 19:51:16 GMT
So many pacinoyes snarky comments to make and I think I'm gonna make them because I told you so didn't I....... this is now THREE projects he has post 65 years old..........and just 1 of those 3 is baity (Macbeth) where are all the big mouths that said he'd challenge Nicholson for 12 nods one day? You still believe that? You shouldn't..... ......like I said he ends up with 10 nods/with 3 wins (probably) - which is obviously great - but people who said sh it like "he'll get 4-5 MORE nods" live in a fantasy world ..........and also btw this is yet ANOTHER small time director after Joel Coen. This sounds better than Little Things which still sounds shaky .........and Macbeth still sounds like it has a very high upside obviously...... It sounds like you’ve jumped to quite a few conclusions with next to nothing to go off of. Who says this can’t be an awards player? Yeah, I just looked at Esmail's overall track record. He's mostly TV, but he doesn't do fluff. Mr Robot and Homecoming were both pretty much awardsbait TV projects. It might end up being failed Oscarbait, but Esmail is a thematically ambitious filmmaker. I think he'll be aiming to be an awards season player. Either way, it'll get a lot of attention with the stars involved.
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Post by fiosnasiob on Jul 20, 2020 19:56:05 GMT
Don't know what to think about this but I like this reunion and I think Julia Robert has been delivering some really good performances in the 10's, including in Homecoming directed by Esmail (whose work on Mr Robot is pretty brillant). Yeah, wait and see but again, glad to see Julia and Zel back together, if this happens of course. Time flies...
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 20, 2020 19:57:28 GMT
So many pacinoyes snarky comments to make and I think I'm gonna make them because I told you so didn't I....... this is now THREE projects he has post 65 years old..........and just 1 of those 3 is baity (Macbeth) where are all the big mouths that said he'd challenge Nicholson for 12 nods one day? You still believe that? You shouldn't..... ......like I said he ends up with 10 nods/with 3 wins (probably) - which is obviously great - but people who said sh it like "he'll get 4-5 MORE nods" live in a fantasy world ..........and also btw this is yet ANOTHER small time director after Joel Coen. This sounds better than Little Things which still sounds shaky .........and Macbeth still sounds like it has a very high upside obviously...... It sounds like you’ve jumped to quite a few conclusions with next to nothing to go off of. Who says this can’t be an awards player? That John Lee Hancock film was obviously a major case of trying it, but there’s enough talent and star power here. Sticking my neck out.......this film actually sounds like a genre mashup - to me it sounds like a more of a horror premise actually. ............and btw that Hancock film has THREE winners and a more versatile writer-director than this does too actually so what's exciting about this besides the deal/money (?) - all I said is those who were hoping he'd work with more name directors don't know his career at all ........and it doesn't sound baity to me either. He's going to top out at 10 more films total max and people who think he was getting 4-5 MORE nods out of ~10 films at this age were grossly misjudging it. .......so yes, sure I'm jumping to quite few conclusions that's the whole thing that makes MAR great isn't it?
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 20, 2020 20:02:27 GMT
Don't know what to think about this but I like this reunion and I think Julia Robert has been delivering some really good performances in the 10's, including in Homecoming directed by Esmail (whose work on Mr Robot is pretty brillant). Yeah, wait and see but again, glad to see Julia and Zel back together, if this happens of course. Time flies... To be honest, a lot of the most interesting and talented filmmakers are cutting their teeth on TV and streaming these days. I never got into Mr Robot (even though I know it was nominated for and won loads of awards), but I thought Homecoming was brilliant, so I'm pleased at the notion of Denzel working with Esmail. The guy is obviously a huge talent.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jul 20, 2020 20:03:42 GMT
So many pacinoyes snarky comments to make and I think I'm gonna make them because I told you so didn't I....... this is now THREE projects he has post 65 years old..........and just 1 of those 3 is baity (Macbeth) where are all the big mouths that said he'd challenge Nicholson for 12 nods one day? You still believe that? You shouldn't..... ......like I said he ends up with 10 nods/with 3 wins (probably) - which is obviously great - but people who said sh it like "he'll get 4-5 MORE nods" live in a fantasy world ..........and also btw this is yet ANOTHER small time director after Joel Coen. This sounds better than Little Things which still sounds shaky .........and Macbeth still sounds like it has a very high upside obviously...... Hello there... With Homecoming and Mr. Robot..Sam Esmail is an ambitious storyteller who obviously likes to explore complex sociopolitical themes in his work. Obviously its been on "Prestige" TV/Small screen, but the guy isn't a hack. The plot sounds interesting and I know Julia has been wanting to work with Denzel again for years, so I'm cautiously optimistic like pupdurcs about the project based on the talent involved. Even if its not awards material, just seeing Julia and Denzel together again will be fun. Denzel still has plenty of time to rack up Oscar nods, I mean dude got nominated for Roman J. Israel, Esq. a critically mixed reviewed film. He's beloved by the academy at this point.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jul 20, 2020 20:06:36 GMT
Hmm, well this is an unexpectedly awesome reteaming of two big stars. Even with the idea of a Denzel movie finally going to streaming, it's still cool to see him and Roberts join forces again, especially since The Pelican Brief is such a classic 90s legal thriller. Homecoming's a pretty strong show, so I'm curious to see how Esmail's talents will translate into a feature film. He's only directed one movie prior, and it was little seen. It'll probably have some awards consideration at least, especially with the names involved. Mildly curious to see who'll get top billing.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jul 20, 2020 20:10:25 GMT
Hmm, well this is an unexpectedly awesome reteaming of two big stars. Even with the idea of a Denzel movie finally going to streaming, it's still cool to see him and Roberts join forces again, especially since The Pelican Brief is such a classic 90s legal thriller. Homecoming's a pretty strong show, so I'm curious to see how Esmail's talents will translate into a feature film. He's only directed one movie prior, and it was little seen. It'll probably have some awards consideration at least, especially with the names involved. Mildly curious to see who'll get top billing. Agreed, Netflix finally got their guy in Denzel. They had been chasing him for awhile, remember they threw a whole bunch of money at him to star in Triple Frontier. With the studio system now in flux with the COVID-19 pandemic, like pupdurcs pointed out in the Gosling/Evans Netflix film thread, alot of A-list stars are going to venture to streaming services. Wonder if Tom Cruise might eventually come to streaming?
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Post by iheartamyadams on Jul 20, 2020 20:10:56 GMT
It sounds like you’ve jumped to quite a few conclusions with next to nothing to go off of. Who says this can’t be an awards player? That John Lee Hancock film was obviously a major case of trying it, but there’s enough talent and star power here. Sticking my neck out.......this film actually sounds like a genre mashup - to me it sounds like a more of a horror premise actually. ............and btw that Hancock film has THREE winners and a more versatile writer-director than this does too actually so what's exciting about this besides the deal/money (?) - all I said is those who were hoping he'd work with more name directors don't know his career at all ........and it doesn't sound baity to me either. He's going to top out at 10 more films total max and people who think he was getting 4-5 MORE nods out of ~10 films at this age were grossly misjudging it. .......so yes, sure I'm jumping to quite few conclusions that's the whole thing that makes MAR great isn't it? lol John Lee Hancock is not talented. He’s been successful in making generic, safe, critically tolerated inspirational dramas that the Academy fell for once and that’s it. What is this versatility that you speak of? I don’t see it. Any time he’s doing anything remotely outside of that wheelhouse, he’s failed. As for Washington, I was adamant that the Academy wouldn’t touch Israel Q and they did. So I’m not going to take any firm stances on how many noms he’ll end up with. We don’t even know how long he’ll continue to work, how long he’ll live, ect. This whole thing seems very silly to me.
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Post by quetee on Jul 20, 2020 20:16:13 GMT
Hmm...sounds intriguing. This may or may not be awardsbait. The synopsis certainly sounds a lot deeper and artier than your usual commercial Denzel action thriller, and Esmail and Roberts track record together with Homecoming suggests they have much more deeper and ambitious aspirations than making a disposable potboiler (odd that Homecoming didn't get more on the radar for TV awards as the reviews were great and it was an ambitious piece, but competition in TV is pretty fierce nowadays). Talk about mental health and race relations certainly make me lean towards the potential of it being an awards play as well as a star power vehicle. I'll wait and see, but this could be Oscarbait for Julia and Denzel. I'm kind of leaning in that direction based on Homecoming. And with streaming the only game in town for the foreseeable future (as I said with Ryan Gosling and The Gray Man), this is a very smart choice by both stars I agree. Esmail is not a hack. This is a social commentary movie with a ticking time bomb angle. I can't believe people read this and think horror.
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Post by quetee on Jul 20, 2020 20:17:06 GMT
Hmm, well this is an unexpectedly awesome reteaming of two big stars. Even with the idea of a Denzel movie finally going to streaming, it's still cool to see him and Roberts join forces again, especially since The Pelican Brief is such a classic 90s legal thriller. Homecoming's a pretty strong show, so I'm curious to see how Esmail's talents will translate into a feature film. He's only directed one movie prior, and it was little seen. It'll probably have some awards consideration at least, especially with the names involved. Mildly curious to see who'll get top billing. Agreed, Netflix finally got their guy in Denzel. They had been chasing him for awhile, remember they threw a whole bunch of money at him to star in Triple Frontier. With the studio system now in flux with the COVID-19 pandemic, like pupdurcs pointed out in the Gosling/Evans Netflix film thread, alot of A-list stars are going to venture to streaming services. Wonder if Tom Cruise might eventually come to streaming? When the Studios say no, he will.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jul 20, 2020 20:22:03 GMT
Hmm, well this is an unexpectedly awesome reteaming of two big stars. Even with the idea of a Denzel movie finally going to streaming, it's still cool to see him and Roberts join forces again, especially since The Pelican Brief is such a classic 90s legal thriller. Homecoming's a pretty strong show, so I'm curious to see how Esmail's talents will translate into a feature film. He's only directed one movie prior, and it was little seen. It'll probably have some awards consideration at least, especially with the names involved. Mildly curious to see who'll get top billing. Agreed, Netflix finally got their guy in Denzel. They had been chasing him for awhile, remember they threw a whole bunch of money at him to star in Triple Frontier. With the studio system now in flux with the COVID-19 pandemic, like pupdurcs pointed out in the Gosling/Evans Netflix film thread, alot of A-list stars are going to venture to streaming services. Wonder if Tom Cruise might eventually come to streaming? Tom Cruise feels inevitably bound to do a Netflix / streaming movie, but he's probably going to stick it out for a little longer, not until at least after he finishes his moon movie, which is no doubt a "you must see it theaters" type of deal. Gonna be interesting when he does eventually make the jump.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jul 20, 2020 20:26:33 GMT
Agreed, Netflix finally got their guy in Denzel. They had been chasing him for awhile, remember they threw a whole bunch of money at him to star in Triple Frontier. With the studio system now in flux with the COVID-19 pandemic, like pupdurcs pointed out in the Gosling/Evans Netflix film thread, alot of A-list stars are going to venture to streaming services. Wonder if Tom Cruise might eventually come to streaming? When the Studios say no, he will. Agreed, if what that analyst said in THR comes to pass and theaters in the U.S might not be able to open to mid 2021 or longer due to pandemic, its going to cripple theaters and studios are going to be in some trouble since a substantial amount of their profits come from the U.S. theater market. You could see a great migration of A-listers to streaming. Have to respect the hustle with Netflix, they see an opportunity right now and they're making moves.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 20, 2020 20:27:35 GMT
So many pacinoyes snarky comments to make and I think I'm gonna make them because I told you so didn't I....... this is now THREE projects he has post 65 years old..........and just 1 of those 3 is baity (Macbeth) where are all the big mouths that said he'd challenge Nicholson for 12 nods one day? You still believe that? You shouldn't..... ......like I said he ends up with 10 nods/with 3 wins (probably) - which is obviously great - but people who said sh it like "he'll get 4-5 MORE nods" live in a fantasy world ..........and also btw this is yet ANOTHER small time director after Joel Coen. This sounds better than Little Things which still sounds shaky .........and Macbeth still sounds like it has a very high upside obviously...... Hello there... With Homecoming and Mr. Robot..Sam Esmail is an ambitious storyteller who obviously likes to explore complex sociopolitical themes in his work. Obviously its been on "Prestige" TV/Small screen, but the guy isn't a hack. ....... Denzel still has plenty of time to rack up Oscar nods........... He's beloved by the academy at this point. Hi sirchuck Well sure I love him too, but he's not going to live forever and his best shot imo is just Macbeth which I've stated many times would be the first American male nomination in 70 years in Shakespeare. That's a huge deal. I mean the Academy doesn't love any male actor ever after 65 with a lot of nods already (ask Hackman and Lemmon) - and he ain't Chris Plummer to get that end of career thing. Also .........he really doesn't have that much time either, he's going to direct and he said himself he's going back to the stage...... and I believe him. People act like he's 45 or something. He only made 10 films from ages 55-65........how many do you think he's making at 65-75 while also directing, protecting his brand, getting older with his wife, and doing theater at least 1-2 more times. I don't think Esmail is a hack exactly and I didn't say he was - he's just not a big player atm.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jul 20, 2020 20:32:00 GMT
Hello there... With Homecoming and Mr. Robot..Sam Esmail is an ambitious storyteller who obviously likes to explore complex sociopolitical themes in his work. Obviously its been on "Prestige" TV/Small screen, but the guy isn't a hack. ....... Denzel still has plenty of time to rack up Oscar nods........... He's beloved by the academy at this point. Hi sirchuck Well sure I love him too, but he's not going to live forever and his best shot imo is just Macbeth which I've stated many times would be the first American male nomination in 70 years in Shakespeare. That's a huge deal. I mean the Academy doesn't love any male actor ever after 65 with a lot of nods already (ask Hackman and Lemmon) - and he ain't Chris Plummer to get that end of career thing. Also .........he really doesn't have that much time either, he's going to direct and he said himself he's going back to the stage...... and I believe him. People act like he's 45 or something. He only made 10 films from ages 55-65........how many do you think he's making at 65-75 while also directing, protecting his brand, getting older with his wife, and doing theater at least 1-2 more times. I don't think Esmail is a hack exactly and I didn't say he was - he's just not a big player atm. I think what might play in Denzel's favor is that he seems hellbent on getting that 3rd Oscar. He wants to join that elite club of 3-time winners, so he'll keep gunning for it and in effect increase his nomination count. I think when he wins his 3rd he might have the fat cat syndrome and slow down, perhaps even retire..even though that would suck for us Denzel fans. He has plenty of money to retire today if he wanted, his son his making waves, I could see Denzel doing his Thanos at the end of Avengers: Infinity War type deal where he sits down and rests, but I think he wants that 3rd..and to do King Lear on Broadway..I think that's what is motivating him right now along with his August Wilson projects. We'll see.
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Post by quetee on Jul 20, 2020 20:35:28 GMT
So what's the over/under post count on this Denzel thread? LMAO!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 20, 2020 20:36:07 GMT
Sticking my neck out.......this film actually sounds like a genre mashup - to me it sounds like a more of a horror premise actually. ............and btw that Hancock film has THREE winners and a more versatile writer-director than this does too actually so what's exciting about this besides the deal/money (?) - all I said is those who were hoping he'd work with more name directors don't know his career at all ........and it doesn't sound baity to me either. He's going to top out at 10 more films total max and people who think he was getting 4-5 MORE nods out of ~10 films at this age were grossly misjudging it. .......so yes, sure I'm jumping to quite few conclusions that's the whole thing that makes MAR great isn't it? lol John Lee Hancock is not talented. He’s been successful in making generic, safe, critically tolerated inspirational dramas that the Academy fell for once and that’s it. What is this versatility that you speak of? I don’t see it. Any time he’s doing anything remotely outside of that wheelhouse, he’s failed. As for Washington, I was adamant that the Academy wouldn’t touch Israel Q and they did. So I’m not going to take any firm stances on how many noms he’ll end up with. We don’t even know how long he’ll continue to work, how long he’ll live, ect. This whole thing seems very silly to me. Don't misrepresent what I wrote. I don't give a fnck about Hancock, I just meant he has a deeper history of writing/directing than Esmail atm. I didn't say he was talented at all.. If the Oscar nominations issue seems silly to you ok, but what seems silly to me is when people predict he will will get 4-5 more nods when that has never happened in Academy history at his age. It was the subject of a big poll on here......."Who will catch Nicholson" and the answer is imo ......."only DiCaprio has that shot". I don't think you're cut out for predicting stuff tbh - I mean how did the Hanks "Greyhound" thing work out for you - is there anything that we predict on here that wouldn't seem "silly" to you anyway? That's the whole point of predicting .........we don't "know"
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 20, 2020 20:52:41 GMT
Hi sirchuck Well sure I love him too, but he's not going to live forever and his best shot imo is just Macbeth which I've stated many times would be the first American male nomination in 70 years in Shakespeare. That's a huge deal. I mean the Academy doesn't love any male actor ever after 65 with a lot of nods already (ask Hackman and Lemmon) - and he ain't Chris Plummer to get that end of career thing. Also .........he really doesn't have that much time either, he's going to direct and he said himself he's going back to the stage...... and I believe him. People act like he's 45 or something. He only made 10 films from ages 55-65........how many do you think he's making at 65-75 while also directing, protecting his brand, getting older with his wife, and doing theater at least 1-2 more times. I don't think Esmail is a hack exactly and I didn't say he was - he's just not a big player atm. I think what might play in Denzel's favor is that he seems hellbent on getting that 3rd Oscar. He wants to join that elite club of 3-time winners, so he'll keep gunning for it and in effect increase his nomination count. I think when he wins his 3rd he might have the fat cat syndrome and slow down, perhaps even retire..even though that would suck for us Denzel fans. He has plenty of money to retire today if he wanted, his son his making waves, I could see Denzel doing his Thanos at the end of Avengers: Infinity War type deal where he sits down and rests, but I think he wants that 3rd..and to do King Lear on Broadway..I think that's what is motivating him right now along with his August Wilson projects. We'll see. I dunno...if Denzel was hellbent on a 3rd Oscar, I think he'd bait like Hanks, DiCaprio etc (which is to say, almost non-stop). He wouldn't be still throwing in Equalizer 2 or The Magnificent Seven.Would he like a 3rd Oscar? Obviously. Who wouldn't. But it doesn't strike me as an overarching obsession for him. His Oscar success almost goes against the grain, because he doesn't actively seem to chase it as much as many of his contemporaries.
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