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Post by madmonsterparty on Sept 7, 2021 21:13:19 GMT
the year 2000? I’m not exactly sure what got me thinking about this but here we go. Older movies that have fallen off the radar happen from time to time, but they could be at a disadvantage simply because of time and in some situations because of availability, so newer ones are more interesting to me here. And By major, as you can probably guess, I mean Best Picture, Best Director, the two screenplay categories and the four acting categories. The movie doesn’t have to particularly bad obviously, but still a movie that has fallen off the radar culturally. so, here we go!!! Thanks in advance for any comments and opinions in advance!!  |
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Post by MsMovieStar on Sept 7, 2021 21:32:21 GMT
Oh honey, is it Hell or High Water, (2016)? Do I win a weekend for two in Palm Springs?
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Post by madmonsterparty on Sept 7, 2021 21:33:56 GMT
Oh honey, is it Hell or High Water, (2016)? Do I win a weekend for two in Palm Springs? . Yes, you win!!!! Just stop by the Mad Monster Party Official Headquarters to pick up your prizes!!!  |
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Post by quetee on Sept 7, 2021 21:37:41 GMT
What about 2006?
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Post by stephen on Sept 7, 2021 21:44:54 GMT
I liked it an awful lot, but I feel like we as a society collectively forgot about Life of Pi.
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Post by madmonsterparty on Sept 7, 2021 21:49:17 GMT
That’s a good starting point right there!!! At least as far as looking into definitely!!! |
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 7, 2021 21:50:31 GMT
A Beautiful Mind
Won Best Picture, Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Best Supporting Actress. Don't see it on any Best of the 00s or Best of the 21st Century so far type lists.
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Post by madmonsterparty on Sept 7, 2021 21:51:49 GMT
I liked it an awful lot, but I feel like we as a society collectively forgot about Life of Pi. I liked it too, but yeah. 11 nominations really surprises me looking back at it. Really strong second place behind Lincoln. And it won 4 times. More than any movie that year. On paper it should be stronger culturally speaking, especially since it’s box office was solid enough, if I remember correctly. |
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Post by stephen on Sept 7, 2021 21:52:54 GMT
A Beautiful Mind Won Best Picture, Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Best Supporting Actress. Don't see it on any Best of the 00s or Best of the 21st Century so far type lists. It's not really "obscure," though. Most film buffs kind of remember it as being the sort of milquetoast paint-by-numbers biopic movie that it is (and Oscar buffs definitely remember it for the Best Director robbery), but it gets an awful lot of play on cable. |
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Post by madmonsterparty on Sept 7, 2021 21:54:12 GMT
A Beautiful Mind Won Best Picture, Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Best Supporting Actress. Don't see it on any Best of the 00s or Best of the 21st Century so far type lists. Yes, good one! I liked it myself, but it’s rare to see it one any best of the decade lists, like you said. Plus, I don’t hear about it, General population wise, much outside of Oscar Talk. But that could just be me though. |
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Post by stephen on Sept 7, 2021 21:55:25 GMT
I liked it an awful lot, but I feel like we as a society collectively forgot about Life of Pi. I liked it too, but yeah. 11 nominations really surprises me looking back at it. Really strong second place behind Lincoln. And it won 4 times. More than any movie that year. On paper it should be stronger culturally speaking, especially since it’s box office was solid enough, if I remember correctly. For a film that did so well, and earned an auteur a second Oscar for Best Director at a time when representation really started to be a key factor in awards narratives, it's remarkable how it made such a little cultural footprint. |
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Post by quetee on Sept 7, 2021 21:57:46 GMT
I liked it too, but yeah. 11 nominations really surprises me looking back at it. Really strong second place behind Lincoln. And it won 4 times. More than any movie that year. On paper it should be stronger culturally speaking, especially since it’s box office was solid enough, if I remember correctly. For a film that did so well, and earned an auteur a second Oscar for Best Director at a time when representation really started to be a key factor in awards narratives, it's remarkable how it made such a little cultural footprint. Yeah, you're right about that one. |
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Post by fiosnasiob on Sept 7, 2021 22:02:53 GMT
Most obscure major Oscar nominated and movie that has fallen off the radar culturally are 2 different things to me. I find the former to be a fun idea for a thread. Like A Better Life got a Best Actor nom for Demián Bichir but the movie is still relatively obscure, same for Pieces of April (Best Supporting Actress nom for Patricia Clarkson).
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 7, 2021 22:03:51 GMT
A Beautiful Mind Won Best Picture, Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Best Supporting Actress. Don't see it on any Best of the 00s or Best of the 21st Century so far type lists. It's not really "obscure," though. Most film buffs kind of remember it as being the sort of milquetoast paint-by-numbers biopic movie that it is (and Oscar buffs definitely remember it for the Best Director robbery), but it gets an awful lot of play on cable. Oh of course, you can find it on cable/VOD. I was thinking more along of the lines of best of the decade type lists, that still are a part of today's culture in some way. Like for instance Denzel in Training Day is from the same year, but you still see dozens of memes of his Alonzo character or people reciting lines ("King Kong aint got shit", etc.) even today. Still part of the culture and remembered. I thought that was what madmonsterparty meant, but I see your point as well where its not "obscure" or hard to seek out from an access standpoint.
And yeah, Best Director that year was a makeup to Howard. Should've gotten it 6 years earlier for Apollo 13.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Sept 7, 2021 22:06:57 GMT
Who cares about The Hours beside the people who like Kidman, Streep, and Moore? If you ask the average person "what movie did Kidman win an Oscar for?" I don't know what exactly they would say, but it's not gonna be The Hours.
Moulin Rouge! seems logical, but that never struck me as a movie that all age groups appreciate - mostly young if you ask me. Her movies with Tom Cruise I can maybe see it, but she was known as a star more than an actress before 2001. Maybe Far and Away...... possibly, that seems like a common enough epic. I don't think Cold Mountain is on the level of The English Patient in popularity or overall appeal. People are vaguer on CM than they are The English Patient in general, one reason is because Cold Mountain is not really as good a movie.
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Post by stephen on Sept 7, 2021 22:08:51 GMT
It's not really "obscure," though. Most film buffs kind of remember it as being the sort of milquetoast paint-by-numbers biopic movie that it is (and Oscar buffs definitely remember it for the Best Director robbery), but it gets an awful lot of play on cable. Oh of course, you can find it on cable/VOD. I was thinking more along of the lines of best of the decade type lists, that still are a part of today's culture in some way. Like for instance Denzel in Training Day is from the same year, but you still see dozens of memes of his Alonzo character or people reciting lines ("King Kong aint got shit", etc.) even today. Still part of the culture and remembered. I thought that was what madmonsterparty meant, but I see your point as well where its not "obscure" or hard to seek out from an access standpoint.
And yeah, Best Director that year was a makeup to Howard. Should've gotten it 6 years earlier for Apollo 13.
I would argue that the film's title has become a cultural shorthand for mental illness. I've heard people say he/she "has gone full A Beautiful Mind" at times, even outside the cinephile landscape. It may not enjoy the level of cultural cache as other films that year, but I do think it is still remembered, for better or worse. And Oscar got it right for Best Director in '95. |
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Post by quetee on Sept 7, 2021 22:12:19 GMT
It's not really "obscure," though. Most film buffs kind of remember it as being the sort of milquetoast paint-by-numbers biopic movie that it is (and Oscar buffs definitely remember it for the Best Director robbery), but it gets an awful lot of play on cable. Oh of course, you can find it on cable/VOD. I was thinking more along of the lines of best of the decade type lists, that still are a part of today's culture in some way. Like for instance Denzel in Training Day is from the same year, but you still see dozens of memes of his Alonzo character or people reciting lines ("King Kong aint got shit", etc.) even today. Still part of the culture and remembered. I thought that was what madmonsterparty meant, but I see your point as well where its not "obscure" or hard to seek out from an access standpoint.
And yeah, Best Director that year was a makeup to Howard. Should've gotten it 6 years earlier for Apollo 13.
For me, fall out of flavor has to do with how society views the film today. In other words, is anyone checking for the film. If we look at 2015. Spotlight won but nobody talks about that movie. The Big Short gets referenced a lot. |
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Post by quetee on Sept 7, 2021 22:13:25 GMT
Who cares about The Hours beside the people who like Kidman, Streep, and Moore? If you ask the average person "what movie did Kidman win an Oscar for?" I don't know what exactly they would say, but it's not gonna be The Hours. Moulin Rouge! seems logical, but that never struck me as a movie that all age groups appreciate - mostly young if you ask me. Her movies with Tom Cruise I can maybe see it, but she was known as a star more than an actress before 2001. Maybe Far and Away...... possibly, that seems like a common enough epic. I don't think Cold Mountain is on the level of The English Patient in popularity or overall appeal. People are vaguer on CM than they are The English Patient in general, one reason is because Cold Mountain is not really as good a movie. They would say Moulin Rouge! |
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Post by ibbi on Sept 7, 2021 22:13:39 GMT
I liked it an awful lot, but I feel like we as a society collectively forgot about Life of Pi. That's on TV all the TIME in this country. Someone must be watching it. |
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 7, 2021 22:17:46 GMT
Oh of course, you can find it on cable/VOD. I was thinking more along of the lines of best of the decade type lists, that still are a part of today's culture in some way. Like for instance Denzel in Training Day is from the same year, but you still see dozens of memes of his Alonzo character or people reciting lines ("King Kong aint got shit", etc.) even today. Still part of the culture and remembered. I thought that was what madmonsterparty meant, but I see your point as well where its not "obscure" or hard to seek out from an access standpoint.
And yeah, Best Director that year was a makeup to Howard. Should've gotten it 6 years earlier for Apollo 13.
And Oscar got it right for Best Director in '95. Got no beef with that.a lot of people pick Gibson that year. Just thought Apollo 13 was Ron’s finest hour. Although Ed Harris can say that much better than I can..lol |
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Post by michael128 on Sept 7, 2021 22:18:27 GMT
Frozen River
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Post by ibbi on Sept 7, 2021 22:19:01 GMT
There's so many of them, it really is pretty funny. I know it defeats the actual purpose of them, but I remember Matt Damon once suggesting that Oscars for a year should be given out ten years later, then the stuff people watch, like and care about might actually rise to the top removed from all the hype and campaigning. Great idea. Might have been a good idea to help the home video industry when there was one  Anyway, how about Chocolat? Beasts of the Southern Wild? |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 7, 2021 22:22:32 GMT
remember when Chocolat was nominted for best picture? Of course you don't. No one does. But it was.  |
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Post by quetee on Sept 7, 2021 22:28:01 GMT
remember when Chocolat was nominted for best picture? Of course you don't. No one does. But it was. That's when The Academy was in love with Lasse Hallström. I think he had Cider House Rules the prior year. |
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Post by michael128 on Sept 7, 2021 23:00:36 GMT
Animal Kingdom
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