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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 18, 2022 22:59:03 GMT
Biden or Harris being the 2024 nominee would be disastrous. Both have terrible approval ratings. Harris has totally disappeared in this administration and Biden has been in the spotlight for most of the wrong reasons, jack.
I really don't know who the dems can run successfully in 2024. Mayor Pete is the best communicator and projects the right attitude, strength and charisma whenever he talks, but that was also true the last couple election cycles and here we still are... Newsome would be disappointing but not nearly as terrible as Biden/Harris. I'm really nervous about 2024.
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Post by dazed on Jul 19, 2022 0:40:40 GMT
wow, who could have possibly known that corporate democrats would be disastrous and fuck the democratic party up with their non existent agenda?!
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 25, 2022 6:47:57 GMT
wow, who could have possibly known that corporate democrats would be disastrous and fuck the democratic party up with their non existent agenda?! I feel like this post is mainly describing Joe Manchin. Rest of the senate and house dems have been constantly pushing for progressive policies and Biden is certainly on paper one of the country's most technically progressive presidents. Meanwhile we got Manchin over here on his houseboat drowning in coal lobby gift baskets smoking cigars with Kirsten Sinema.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 28, 2022 13:31:33 GMT
Some additional "not good" news today though I'm sure everyone will spend the day arguing what "is" and what "isn't" technically a recession...........the 3rd quarter report will be in late October just before mid-terms..... @bnonews BREAKING: U.S. enters a technical recession after reporting 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jul/28/us-economy-gdp-second-quarter
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 28, 2022 15:17:01 GMT
I like how they didn’t give us a new definition for recession because they know we’re gonna hit that mark too. Wonder when they’ll change the definition of depression
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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 1, 2022 6:31:13 GMT
He's absolutely the worst President I can remember. Bush at least looked decent at the beginning before he became a warmonger and capitalist protectorate. But we can even argue if the latter is a bad thing. At what point was Biden ever good?
He's being ran off by members of his own party. I know people don't like Trump, but I never saw a Republican candidate with more support from their leaders and voters, and he's certainly never been attempted to be ran off by members of his own party.
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Post by stabcaesar on Aug 1, 2022 7:18:05 GMT
He's really terrible but I can't say it's entirely his fault. Americans are just too stupid. There's not much he can do.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Aug 5, 2022 17:08:47 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 5, 2022 17:38:17 GMT
Ah, if only it was that simple .......... because he's also going to continue to preside over the worst inflation in 40+ years where those people who are employed are earning less and as inflation drops (whenever that is), unemployment will rise....... and that's not all that new legislation does, see below and there are clean energy economic implications too so let's actually see how it works .......and if Trump couldn't find that guy ....well.......neither could Obama or anyone else in 20 years...... .........but......on the other hand........ the actual killing of the Al Qaeda leader is a huge win ........absolutely....
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 5, 2022 18:06:13 GMT
yeah this sums up the the dichotomy. He's good on policy (apart from the economy, but then of course how much of that is his fault vs. bad luck/forces beyond his control), but absolutely terrible as a leader and figurehead which doesn't inspire confidence among voters. Even if people are watching the news and have a vague idea of the good things Biden is pushing (and that doesn't describe most ppl), I couldn't blame anyone for having a negative opinion about his presidency. Some ppl are negative for stupid, conspiratorial reasons, but I can't muster much support for him as a flag-waving lib myself Obama was kind of the opposite. Flawed on policy but an incredible leader.
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 5, 2022 21:30:48 GMT
With the latest jobs report we’ve finally regained all the jobs that were lost during the pandemic. Biden didn’t create a single new job, all of it was jobs that came back after being temporarily off during the pandemic. However when we get next month’s tally those will be the first actual new jobs created post pandemic and then Biden wouldn’t be wrong (or dishonest) to take credit for that. Just in time for midterms too
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 7, 2022 7:09:03 GMT
Roger Waters calls or provocatively implies at least that Biden is "a war criminal" @3:50........hmmmmm....... not sure I fully get his POV but it made for some great TV anyway ......you don't see this kind of snarling exchange on scrpted TV nowadays at least
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Post by hugobolso on Aug 10, 2022 3:18:54 GMT
Roger Waters calls or provocatively implies at least that Biden is "a war criminal" @3:50........hmmmmm....... not sure I fully get his POV but it made for some great TV anyway ......you don't see this kind of snarling exchange on scrpted TV nowadays at least Dont take seriously Rogers Walters. He is just a moron. He earned millions in his South Américas tours. Trump was fascist, now Biden is bad, Putin? The whole things in the interview he tales like someone from who Il Duce should be proud.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Aug 10, 2022 3:28:49 GMT
Roger Waters calls or provocatively implies at least that Biden is "a war criminal" @3:50........hmmmmm....... not sure I fully get his POV but it made for some great TV anyway ......you don't see this kind of snarling exchange on scrpted TV nowadays at least Dont take seriously Rogers Walters. He is just a moron. He earned millions in his South Américas tours. Trump was fascist, now Biden is bad, Putin? The whole things in the interview he tales like someone from who Il Duce should be proud. Who is Rogers Walters?
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Post by Brother Fease on Aug 15, 2022 22:34:53 GMT
With the latest jobs report we’ve finally regained all the jobs that were lost during the pandemic. Biden didn’t create a single new job, all of it was jobs that came back after being temporarily off during the pandemic. However when we get next month’s tally those will be the first actual new jobs created post pandemic and then Biden wouldn’t be wrong (or dishonest) to take credit for that. Just in time for midterms too Extremely problematic statements made here.
Presidents don't "create jobs". Period. The President signs and vetoes bills, and appoints people on behalf of the American people. Biden doesn't hire work force, beyond his own cabinet. What we're seeing is the country slowly getting back to "normal again".
How in the world did you come up with September of 2022 as the start of the "actual new jobs"? Sounds like a Fox News/Right-wing radio type of rhetoric.
I think Biden has done a great job, considering all of the handicaps in front of them. Like a 50-50 Senate and a very regressive Republican Party which denies he is the real President.
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Post by Brother Fease on Aug 15, 2022 22:36:45 GMT
yeah this sums up the the dichotomy. He's good on policy (apart from the economy, but then of course how much of that is his fault vs. bad luck/forces beyond his control), but absolutely terrible as a leader and figurehead which doesn't inspire confidence among voters. Even if people are watching the news and have a vague idea of the good things Biden is pushing (and that doesn't describe most ppl), I couldn't blame anyone for having a negative opinion about his presidency. Some ppl are negative for stupid, conspiratorial reasons, but I can't muster much support for him as a flag-waving lib myself Obama was kind of the opposite. Flawed on policy but an incredible leader. I am fine with boring Joe. At least he is favoring policies which actually benefit the country. Ike wasn't an exciting guy here, but got things done.
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 16, 2022 2:00:53 GMT
With the latest jobs report we’ve finally regained all the jobs that were lost during the pandemic. Biden didn’t create a single new job, all of it was jobs that came back after being temporarily off during the pandemic. However when we get next month’s tally those will be the first actual new jobs created post pandemic and then Biden wouldn’t be wrong (or dishonest) to take credit for that. Just in time for midterms too Extremely problematic statements made here.
Presidents don't "create jobs". Period. The President signs and vetoes bills, and appoints people on behalf of the American people. Biden doesn't hire work force, beyond his own cabinet. What we're seeing is the country slowly getting back to "normal again".
How in the world did you come up with September of 2022 as the start of the "actual new jobs"? Sounds like a Fox News/Right-wing radio type of rhetoric.
I think Biden has done a great job, considering all of the handicaps in front of them. Like a 50-50 Senate and a very regressive Republican Party which denies he is the real President.
Saying the president “creates jobs” is a generic statement and you know what I’m trying to get at. I’d expect this nitpick from the more nakedly partisan members of the board. You saying that what we’re seeing is the country slowly getting back to normal is exactly what I was referring to in the statement you bolded from my previous post. I make the generalization because whoever’s president tries to take the credit for the job creation. If Trump was still president and we were in the same economic environment (which we would be, mostly, since he’s the one who’s responsible for putting us in this mess in the first place) he’d be boasting about the “strongest economy in history” and how he created all these new jobs instead of calling America a third world country as he’s doing now As for how I came up with the date of “actual new job creation”, basic chart reading skills. I don’t watch Faux News
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 16, 2022 7:41:23 GMT
Extremely problematic statements made here.
Presidents don't "create jobs". Period. The President signs and vetoes bills, and appoints people on behalf of the American people. Biden doesn't hire work force, beyond his own cabinet. What we're seeing is the country slowly getting back to "normal again".
How in the world did you come up with September of 2022 as the start of the "actual new jobs"? Sounds like a Fox News/Right-wing radio type of rhetoric.
I think Biden has done a great job, considering all of the handicaps in front of them. Like a 50-50 Senate and a very regressive Republican Party which denies he is the real President.
Saying the president “creates jobs” is a generic statement and you know what I’m trying to get at. I’d expect this nitpick from the more nakedly partisan members of the board. You saying that what we’re seeing is the country slowly getting back to normal is exactly what I was referring to in the statement you bolded from my previous post. I make the generalization because whoever’s president tries to take the credit for the job creation. If Trump was still president and we were in the same economic environment (which we would be, mostly, since he’s the one who’s responsible for putting us in this mess in the first place) he’d be boasting about the “strongest economy in history” and how he created all these new jobs instead of calling America a third world country as he’s doing now As for how I came up with the date of “actual new job creation”, basic chart reading skills. I don’t watch Faux News Great post ^ and I sometimes watch Faux News ............and on business Fox News is rather the Gold Standard tbh - they have Larry Kudlow who love him or hate him really knows his stuff - if MAR is not watching Fox for business reporting - MAR is missing out imo......ymmv The unemployment numbers will rise as the recession (or whatever it is) continues ......and it will continue.....it's like a heat wave - you don't go from months of 90 degree temperatures daily to 65 and cool just like that............. A 50-50 Senate majority when Dems control every elected branch of Federal office is not a "handicap" for Biden btw as the post you're replying to said - his "handicap" is that for the most part - his numbers polling wise - mostly - have been drag on his Party colleagues......he had a pretty big mandate - most votes for anyone, ever - but it also wasn't an overwhelming mandate.....it was close and reflects the country's feelings / attitudes.......
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Post by Brother Fease on Aug 16, 2022 10:35:15 GMT
Saying the president “creates jobs” is a generic statement and you know what I’m trying to get at. I’d expect this nitpick from the more nakedly partisan members of the board. You saying that what we’re seeing is the country slowly getting back to normal is exactly what I was referring to in the statement you bolded from my previous post. I make the generalization because whoever’s president tries to take the credit for the job creation. If Trump was still president and we were in the same economic environment (which we would be, mostly, since he’s the one who’s responsible for putting us in this mess in the first place) he’d be boasting about the “strongest economy in history” and how he created all these new jobs instead of calling America a third world country as he’s doing now As for how I came up with the date of “actual new job creation”, basic chart reading skills. I don’t watch Faux News Not a nitpick at all. It's an incredibly inaccurate statement. Showing lack of understanding how jobs are created in our society. You can say jobs created "under Biden", but saying Biden created jobs is 100% wrong.
The graph as I understand that, reflects job growth numbers per month. I think an accurate statement would be we're seeing job grow numbers going back to pre-Covid levels. It is not that these were "old jobs".
We all should be happy to see employment levels going back to normal again. I don't think we should be bashing Biden here. He did nothing wrong.
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Post by Brother Fease on Aug 16, 2022 10:45:02 GMT
Great post ^ and I sometimes watch Faux News ............and on business Fox News is rather the Gold Standard tbh - they have Larry Kudlow who love him or hate him really knows his stuff - if MAR is not watching Fox for business reporting - MAR is missing out imo......ymmv The unemployment numbers will rise as the recession (or whatever it is) continues ......and it will continue.....it's like a heat wave - you don't go from months of 90 degree temperatures daily to 65 and cool just like that............. A 50-50 Senate majority when Dems control every elected branch of Federal office is not a "handicap" for Biden btw as the post you're replying to said - his "handicap" is that for the most part - his numbers polling wise - mostly - have been drag on his Party colleagues......he had a pretty big mandate - most votes for anyone, ever - but it also wasn't an overwhelming mandate.....it was close and reflects the countries feelings / attitudes....... 50-50 Senate is hardly a majority. Even if these do get passed through the House and Senate, the GOP just filibusters or threatens to filibuster the legislation. This is why we haven't seen the Equality Act getting passed or why Hearing Aids are not added to Medicare.
Biden inherited a gigantic mess. You can't expect progression to happen over night. But we're starting to see inflation going down, gas prices going down, and employment level numbers getting back to normal again. This is a good thing. We should be happy.
It is not a great post at all, if the posters doesn't understand how jobs are created in our society.
And no, Biden is still not the worst President in the last 40 years. That honors belongs to Trump.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 16, 2022 11:13:56 GMT
Great post ^ and I sometimes watch Faux News ............and on business Fox News is rather the Gold Standard tbh - they have Larry Kudlow who love him or hate him really knows his stuff - if MAR is not watching Fox for business reporting - MAR is missing out imo......ymmv The unemployment numbers will rise as the recession (or whatever it is) continues ......and it will continue.....it's like a heat wave - you don't go from months of 90 degree temperatures daily to 65 and cool just like that............. A 50-50 Senate majority when Dems control every elected branch of Federal office is not a "handicap" for Biden btw as the post you're replying to said - his "handicap" is that for the most part - his numbers polling wise - mostly - have been drag on his Party colleagues......he had a pretty big mandate - most votes for anyone, ever - but it also wasn't an overwhelming mandate.....it was close and reflects the countries feelings / attitudes....... * 50-50 Senate is hardly a majority. This is why we haven't seen the Equality Act getting passed or why Hearing Aids are not added to Medicare. But it IS a majority - and if he can't persuade Republicans - oh well - that's what America voted for.......stop ignoring the vote - maybe they will win 60 seats in the November mid-terms......(?)
* But we're starting to see inflation going down, gas prices going down, and employment level numbers getting back to normal again. This is a good thing. We should be happy.
Not really.............inflation will be over 7 or maybe even 8 next month too........... and the next month etc. ............... it isn't that inflation STARTS to go down, it's that it DOESNT return to normal for many months when people barely pay their bills each month........
......gas prices are almost double what they were under Trump right now - and likely will rise again in the Fall actually - inflation is way higher..........wages out paced inflation under Trump by almost 9% - under Biden they are negative (Paychecks grew faster than inflation. Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 8.7% after inflation under Trump)
.....so no, I'm not "happy" about having 2 shitty Presidents in a row........we should tell the truth and not sugar coat it ........that's why Joaq's post was great........I'm getting quite bored with people telling me "we should be happy"........stop lying to my face........I know what my grocery bill costs .......there are things you can say about Biden that are good - but this ain't one of them ffs.www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 16, 2022 11:57:20 GMT
Saying the president “creates jobs” is a generic statement and you know what I’m trying to get at. I’d expect this nitpick from the more nakedly partisan members of the board. You saying that what we’re seeing is the country slowly getting back to normal is exactly what I was referring to in the statement you bolded from my previous post. I make the generalization because whoever’s president tries to take the credit for the job creation. If Trump was still president and we were in the same economic environment (which we would be, mostly, since he’s the one who’s responsible for putting us in this mess in the first place) he’d be boasting about the “strongest economy in history” and how he created all these new jobs instead of calling America a third world country as he’s doing now As for how I came up with the date of “actual new job creation”, basic chart reading skills. I don’t watch Faux News Not a nitpick at all. It's an incredibly inaccurate statement. Showing lack of understanding how jobs are created in our society. You can say jobs created "under Biden", but saying Biden created jobs is 100% wrong.
The graph as I understand that, reflects job growth numbers per month. I think an accurate statement would be we're seeing job grow numbers going back to pre-Covid levels. It is not that these were "old jobs".
We all should be happy to see employment levels going back to normal again. I don't think we should be bashing Biden here. He did nothing wrong.
You are latching on to the wording and ignoring the main thesis of my post, which you haven’t even refuted. Jobs went away during the pandemic, and as we went back to normal they were brought back. This is not new job creation. We brought back already existing jobs that were temporarily gone during the height of the pandemic, or at the very least everyone who lost their job during the pandemic is employed again (or got replaced). Because yea it’s a bit of a stretch to assume that everyone who lost their job went back to the same job. The graph represents the employment level, how many people are employed. It does not represent job growth, although you can infer that from looking at the chart and seeing how much it went up compared to the previous month. If the chart represented job growth then there would be negative numbers on the Y-axis to represent the negative job growth during March and April of 2020. The number of people in the workforce went down to a bit over 132,000,000 from its peak of just under 160,000,000. You can clearly see the sharp dip and then a V shaped recovery as people went back to work as the country went back to normal. We have just now hit the pre pandemic peak of how many people are participating in the workforce. If job growth continues at the rate it’s been going then next month we will eclipse that number. Idk how much further I need to dumb this down, or if I even can dumb this down any further. If your local Starbucks closes because of the pandemic and 5 people lose their jobs, then reopens with those 5 people (or 5 new people) coming back, you did not just create 5 new jobs
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 16, 2022 13:00:22 GMT
Great post ^ and I sometimes watch Faux News ............and on business Fox News is rather the Gold Standard tbh - they have Larry Kudlow who love him or hate him really knows his stuff - if MAR is not watching Fox for business reporting - MAR is missing out imo......ymmv The unemployment numbers will rise as the recession (or whatever it is) continues ......and it will continue.....it's like a heat wave - you don't go from months of 90 degree temperatures daily to 65 and cool just like that............. A 50-50 Senate majority when Dems control every elected branch of Federal office is not a "handicap" for Biden btw as the post you're replying to said - his "handicap" is that for the most part - his numbers polling wise - mostly - have been drag on his Party colleagues......he had a pretty big mandate - most votes for anyone, ever - but it also wasn't an overwhelming mandate.....it was close and reflects the countries feelings / attitudes....... It is not a great post at all, if the posters doesn't understand how jobs are created in our society.
And no, Biden is still not the worst President in the last 40 years. That honors belongs to Trump.
Do you honestly believe that I think the president can just wave a magic wand and *poof* job creation?
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Aug 20, 2022 6:10:00 GMT
I'm convinced this man has dementia every time I see him.
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 22, 2022 13:55:36 GMT
Meet the new boss Same as the old boss
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