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Post by futuretrunks on Aug 9, 2021 21:52:39 GMT
Anyone else not really buying that Lawrence will ever be able to lead hit films not based on major IP? The announcement of that Sue Mengers biopic with Sorrentino (someone can start a thread for that if they want to) got me wondering. She's getting a $20 million payday too, like it's Tom Cruise bringing Mission: Impossible to streaming or something. Do you think audiences are interested in her as an actress? Do you think she'll fare well in Don't Look Up or that Red, White and Water movie that had the reshoots?
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Post by jakesully on Aug 9, 2021 22:31:16 GMT
Anyone else not really buying that Lawrence will ever be able to lead hit films not based on major IP? The announcement of that Sue Mengers biopic with Sorrentino (someone can start a thread for that if they want to) got me wondering. She's getting a $20 million payday too, like it's Tom Cruise bringing Mission: Impossible to streaming or something. Do you think audiences are interested in her as an actress? Do you think she'll fare well in Don't Look Up or that Red, White and Water movie that had the reshoots? Well "never say never" (J Law is only 30 years old ) but I'm really leaning towards agreeing with you in terms of her "carrying" a film at this point. And damn she is still getting $20 million for some roles these days?! Did these studios not learn anything from that god awful Passengers film? She was paid $20 million for that and it received lukewarm responses from critics/audiences alike and while it wasn't a flop at the box office, it certainly under performed for the studio and wasn't a hit at all. Between Passengers, Joy , Red Sparrow, Mother and her last two laughably bad X Men films I'd say the odds are not in her favor. She isn't as much of a box office draw as a lot of these studios think. I should say though that I think she is talented overall as an actress (despite being in some total clunkers over the past years) She was excellent in Winter's Bone, perfectly cast in The Hunger Games, good in Silver Linings Playbook and tried to make the most out of her role in Mother. Either way, she could retire from acting right now and be set for life regardless. She is worth well over $100 million.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 10, 2021 20:40:42 GMT
I dunno man, she's co-starring in a movie this year with the world's biggest movie star, in as close to a guaranteed huge hit original film (and apparently good too) as you can get in 2021.
I've said this before - her performance in SLP is among the best of the decade (to me anyway), people love that still, and like her.....her only problem is that she's this generations Debra Winger - a "natural" who doesn't have the training/ability to do a lot of roles - but if she chooses projects well there's no issue .......people still want to work with her.......
She turns 31 .....in 5 days......she's fine........better than fine...
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Post by futuretrunks on Aug 10, 2021 21:43:51 GMT
I dunno man, she's co-starring in a movie this year with the world's biggest movie star, in as close to a guaranteed huge hit original film (and apparently good too) as you can get in 2021. I've said this before - her performance in SLP is among the best of the decade (to me anyway), people love that still, and like her.....her only problem is that she's this generations Debra Winger - a "natural" who doesn't have the training/ability to do a lot of roles - but if she chooses projects well there's no issue .......people still want to work with her....... She turns 31 .....in 5 days......she's fine........better than fine... Co-starring with Leo is good for her, certainly, but that's not really a role that can bring new dimensions out of her, so I'm not really sure how good it's going to look if the takeaway from the film is that she has one of the least interesting performances. We'll see though, I'll wait to judge it beyond the script. As far as if she chooses projects well...I think that's one of her biggest hurdles beyond her inconsistent acting. I see Margot Robbie out here getting roles from one hot shit director after another, and I have a hard time seeing Lawrence being able to follow suit. Her films after the Sorrentino would have to be from the likes of Spielberg, Fincher, Nolan, Mendes, etc.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Aug 11, 2021 1:43:24 GMT
No, she certainly can still lead non-IP. The fact that she’s getting back to back $20m paychecks is telling that the studios still believe in her. She may have to compete with Margot Robbie a bit for roles, but if she wants to keep working she’ll remain highly in demand.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 11, 2021 3:41:16 GMT
She's pretty much the only actress under 45 that the real world cares about. If she can't carry a film, I don't think anyone else can. I mean, you can argue ScarJo and Emma Watson, but without the strength of their projects - I don't think they would be thought of as who they are now. Lawrence from 2010-2015.... all of her movies besides American Hustle she was pretty much the main appeal/ talking point.
Also, I don't think Margot Robbie doing movies with Wes Anderson, David O. Russell, and Damien Chazelle means much except she's making a serious attempt to be an artist. If Lawrence wanted to do that, she could easily.
No one is saying Lawrence is Denzel, Jolie, or Julia - people who can get crap seen. She probably goes up and down with her projects, but when she does a relevant movie - she's much more likely to be singled out than pretty much anyone else you can name.
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Post by Allenism on Aug 11, 2021 17:40:46 GMT
She's pretty much the only actress under 45 that the real world cares about. Maybe a decade ago.
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Post by stephen on Aug 11, 2021 17:46:19 GMT
I think she still can -- it just depends on the subject matter. Passengers wasn't really marketed well despite having two of the biggest movie-stars at the time in it, Red Sparrow was still a sizable box office success even if it didn't retain any cultural cache, and let's be real: mother! wasn't going to be a juggernaut success regardless of who was headlining it. Lawrence's white-hot streak cooled substantially the last half-decade, but she's only thirty and there's more than enough room to back. It just depends on the projects she takes. I think she is still a very profitable actress, but she's needed this time away from things to back, because I think what hurt her more than anything else was her ubiquity, and that they were forcing her into roles that really weren't her specialty. Part of that was the David O. Russell of it all, part of it was the internet turning on her almost overnight, and part of it is her vocal discontentment with how things were proceeding with her career. I feel this could be a turning point for her and get her back in the thick of the fight; she is a remarkable talent and I don't think she's anywhere close to done. Also, friendly reminder: reshoots don't mean shit when it comes to a project's quality. Almost every film has reshoots. EDIT: God, I hate how you can't write the word "b o u n c e" without that stupid emoticon coming up.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Aug 11, 2021 18:22:58 GMT
I agree with stephen that she's still young and has plenty of time to
back.
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Post by hugobolso on Aug 11, 2021 21:29:16 GMT
When people choose you, they choose forever. That's the main difference between a Star and a Starlet.
I'm not sure, if people choose Margot Robbie or Saoirse Ronan, but deffinitive they choose Jennifer Lawrence, so she will be a star forever.
Alicia Vikander won an Oscar, but the people (until now) haven't choose her, despite all the press she has.-
The whole thing with all these teenage stars, that they get tired at a very young age.-
I don't know if Lawrence, still wants to suffer the pression of being the main lead of a big budget movie, that was crated to perform well at box office, and also wants some critical acclaim. Keira Knightley for example resign to that, beyond the fact that people loves her, and prefer to be the co-star of middle budget and indie movies.-
Jodie Foster also resign that after Nell, living in perpetuely semiretirement, still she is a STAR, no matter the years she takes off, or the quality of her films!!!
Liz Taylor left the film bussiness in 1980 (some could claim 1970 other 1994) , but was a huge star until the day she passed away.-
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 13, 2021 19:59:56 GMT
I dunno man, she's co-starring in a movie this year with the world's biggest movie star, in as close to a guaranteed huge hit original film (and apparently good too) as you can get in 2021. I've said this before - her performance in SLP is among the best of the decade (to me anyway), people love that still, and like her.....her only problem is that she's this generations Debra Winger - a "natural" who doesn't have the training/ability to do a lot of roles - but if she chooses projects well there's no issue .......people still want to work with her....... She turns 31 .....in 5 days......she's fine........better than fine... EXCLUSIVE: We are hearing that Apple will emerge victorious for the big Sue Mengers biopic project we told you about on Sunday night with Oscar winner Jennifer Lawrence circling and Paolo Sorrentino attached to direct. Apple is in advanced talks to get this coveted package which came down to a run-off between the tech corp’s Original Films division and Netflix. There are still moving parts here and details are being worked out.
deadline.com/2021/08/jennifer-lawrence-sue-mengers-biopic-apple-winning-auction-1234814499/
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Post by futuretrunks on Aug 14, 2021 0:30:06 GMT
I dunno man, she's co-starring in a movie this year with the world's biggest movie star, in as close to a guaranteed huge hit original film (and apparently good too) as you can get in 2021. I've said this before - her performance in SLP is among the best of the decade (to me anyway), people love that still, and like her.....her only problem is that she's this generations Debra Winger - a "natural" who doesn't have the training/ability to do a lot of roles - but if she chooses projects well there's no issue .......people still want to work with her....... She turns 31 .....in 5 days......she's fine........better than fine... EXCLUSIVE: We are hearing that Apple will emerge victorious for the big Sue Mengers biopic project we told you about on Sunday night with Oscar winner Jennifer Lawrence circling and Paolo Sorrentino attached to direct. Apple is in advanced talks to get this coveted package which came down to a run-off between the tech corp’s Original Films division and Netflix. There are still moving parts here and details are being worked out.
deadline.com/2021/08/jennifer-lawrence-sue-mengers-biopic-apple-winning-auction-1234814499/My doubts have not been allayed. For a Sue Mengers biopic? Maybe if Scorsese or Spielberg were directing and you had people like Gosling/Gyllenhaal/Saoirse/Denzel circling roles. I'll be very curious to see who signs onto this. Leo did do DLU, but it's seemingly (based on the script and clip) a bigger and better role than J-Law's, which can't be the case with this.
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Post by franklin on Aug 14, 2021 0:56:35 GMT
Sorrentino is a terrific and truly unique filmmaker with a very distinctive voice (Il Divo, The Great Beauty, Youth, The New Pope, etc..) No doubt it will turn out to be a great film.
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Post by futuretrunks on Aug 14, 2021 1:01:14 GMT
Sorrentino is a terrific and very unique filmmaker with a distinct voice (Il Divo, The Great Beauty, etc..) No doubt it will turn out to be a great film. The movie will definitely look great and have some surreal vibes at times. I don't have a problem with Sorrentino (I'm a fan of his Young/New Pope work), but he's not some "Oh shit, they got HIM?" type of filmmaker. At least not yet.
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