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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jun 29, 2021 13:30:28 GMT
…for Silence of the Lambs?
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Post by stephen on Jun 29, 2021 13:40:04 GMT
As I often say in these scenarios, it depends on who the fifth nominee would've been to replace him.
Nolte won the Drama Globe and Williams won Comedy that year. Williams had two nods under his belt by that point, and his film was more well-liked overall than Nolte's (which lost a lot of steam between the Globes and the Oscars), and it did win another acting award that year, so I have to think if anyone was second to Hopkins, it was Williams. But then, Nolte did have a banner year and it was at his popularity's peak (culminating in that declaration of being People's Sexiest Man Alive the following year). I don't think De Niro or Beatty were in strong enough contention to win at all. As for that fifth spot, my gut says it was probably Costner for JFK, and after winning big the previous year with Dances with Wolves in Director and Picture, I don't see them falling over themselves to anoint him again, which is probably why he missed out on the nod in the first place.
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Post by morton on Jun 29, 2021 13:51:47 GMT
As I often say in these scenarios, it depends on who the fifth nominee would've been to replace him. Nolte won the Drama Globe and Williams won Comedy that year. Williams had two nods under his belt by that point, and his film was more well-liked overall than Nolte's (which lost a lot of steam between the Globes and the Oscars), and it did win another acting award that year, so I have to think if anyone was second to Hopkins, it was Williams. But then, Nolte did have a banner year and it was at his popularity's peak (culminating in that declaration of being People's Sexiest Man Alive the following year). I don't think De Niro or Beatty were in strong enough contention to win at all. As for that fifth spot, my gut says it was probably Costner for JFK, and after winning big the previous year with Dances with Wolves in Director and Picture, I don't see them falling over themselves to anoint him again, which is probably why he missed out on the nod in the first place. Generally I agree but looking at who was nominated for the Globes, and who won the top tier critics awards, I agree it was probably Costner who wouldn’t have been a factor. I doubt River Phoenix would have made it given the fact that I think he was still pretty young and had already been nominated before given voters’ bias against young male actors. I think it would have been Nolte even if he did lost steam just because he was in the stronger film and The Fisher King was already winning an acting Oscar. (Of course maybe if Williams had become the frontrunner, it would open up a new can of worms about Ruehl losing, but I’m already late getting ready to tackle that topic lol). Plus as stephen mentioned, Nolte was having a big moment at that time. |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 29, 2021 14:30:23 GMT
As I often say in these scenarios, it depends on who the fifth nominee would've been to replace him. Nolte won the Drama Globe and Williams won Comedy that year. Williams had two nods under his belt by that point, and his film was more well-liked overall than Nolte's (which lost a lot of steam between the Globes and the Oscars), and it did win another acting award that year, so I have to think if anyone was second to Hopkins, it was Williams. But then, Nolte did have a banner year and it was at his popularity's peak (culminating in that declaration of being People's Sexiest Man Alive the following year). I don't think De Niro or Beatty were in strong enough contention to win at all. As for that fifth spot, my gut says it was probably Costner for JFK, and after winning big the previous year with Dances with Wolves in Director and Picture, I don't see them falling over themselves to anoint him again, which is probably why he missed out on the nod in the first place. Generally I agree but looking at who was nominated for the Globes, and who won the top tier critics awards, I agree it was probably Costner who wouldn’t have been a factor. I doubt River Phoenix would have made it given the fact that I think he was still pretty young and had already been nominated before given voters’ bias against young male actors. I think it would have been Nolte even if he did lost steam just because he was in the stronger film and The Fisher King was already winning an acting Oscar. (Of course maybe if Williams had become the frontrunner, it would open up a new can of worms about Ruehl losing, but I’m already late getting ready to tackle that topic lol). Plus as stephen mentioned, Nolte was having a big moment at that time. Nolte also makes sense, because for how much the academy seemed to be cool a bit over The Prince of Tides, at least as far as "The Babs" of all it was concerned, they were pretty much in universal agreement that his performance was excellent. Plus the movie was a hit. Maybe they actually felt like they would have needed to reward it something. |
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Post by TerryMontana on Jun 29, 2021 15:45:20 GMT
Nolte or Williams for sure. I'd guess Nolte would win because his movie was nominated for more Oscars than Robin's.
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