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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 28, 2021 15:45:18 GMT
Was going to put this under music but I'm not sure how many people like the band at all? - Banjo always struggles to find a place on my playlists personally I mean on one level, no big deal - people leave bands all the time........on the other hand..........rarely for this kind of reason...... A founding member of the English folk rock act Mumford & Sons said today in a Medium post that he’s leaving the band in order to avoid tainting them with his personal political opinions.
Winston Marshall created a firestorm on social media in March when he tweeted support for journalist Andy Ngo’s book Unmasked: Inside Antifa’s Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy, which examines the radical leftist group’s history and tactics.
The guitarist and banjo player subsequently took a brief break from the band in March. Although he says his group had “invited me to continue with them,” he has now decided to leave so that he could “speak freely without them suffering the consequences.”
deadline.com/2021/06/mumfordsons-winston-marshall-leaving-politics-social-media-1234781446/
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Post by Joaquim on Jun 29, 2021 1:09:21 GMT
Well let's get the obvious out of the way first, his band sucks But he shouldn't be quitting over the woke mob getting mad about him reading a book. This guy is british, the overwhelming majority of dumbasses coming for his head are dumbass Americans and it's not ordinary dumbass Americans but dumbass Americans on twitter. Twitter is the biggest left-wing echo chamber on the planet (yes i know it also serves as a right-wing echo chamber), only a fraction of the US population actually uses it but that fraction votes like Portland, Oregon. I wonder if they actually give a shit across the pond Oh well at least the woke mob broke up a shitty band Oh yea and one of my favorite responses to this whole thing is that he's racist for playing the banjo because the banjo was a slave instrument so he's appropriating the culture
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Post by Barbie on Jun 29, 2021 19:07:02 GMT
He’s a baby and a typical “both sides” type centrist who’s really a reich-winger. What a loser and a political idiot
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Post by jakesully on Sept 9, 2021 16:39:27 GMT
He’s a baby and a typical “both sides” type centrist who’s really a reich-winger. What a loser and a political idiot bump smh how did I miss this gem? Andy Ngo is a conservative gay Asian writer. He is like 5'5 120 pounds soaking wet. He's completely harmless and I don't blame him one bit for writing that book especially considering what ANTIFA did to him awhile back. And i like how this video downplayed it by saying ANTIFA "roughed up" Andy Ngo and had a warning disclaimer about the foul language being used (never mind the disturbing violence though ) This dude was just minding his own business and ended up getting brutally assaulted by these far left wing cowards. Ganging up on him and throwing quick drying cement mixture cups at him in the back of his head. He had to check himself into the hospital for brain bleeding. It seems to me the real losers & babies here are the cowardly members of ANTIFA. They all dress up like ISIS terrorists fighters wearing their black masks and all of them are mostly young white males. No way in hell are any of them successful in life & most likely still live at home with their parents.
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Post by hugobolso on Sept 9, 2021 17:54:33 GMT
I guess this guy date a famous actress, model or singer. Whatever, the whole thing, isn't the just the twitter hate thing, is that 1) first the band loose sponsors 2) the teatre/stadium owners/polititians could drop a band from their shows.
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2021 22:41:49 GMT
He’s a baby and a typical “both sides” type centrist who’s really a reich-winger. What a loser and a political idiot bump smh how did I miss this gem? Andy Ngo is a conservative gay Asian writer. He is like 5'5 120 pounds soaking wet. He's completely harmless and I don't blame him one bit for writing that book especially considering what ANTIFA did to him awhile back. And i like how this video downplayed it by saying ANTIFA "roughed up" Andy Ngo and had a warning disclaimer about the foul language being used (never mind the disturbing violence though ) This dude was just minding his own business and ended up getting brutally assaulted by these far left wing cowards. Ganging up on him and throwing quick drying cement mixture cups at him in the back of his head. He had to check himself into the hospital for brain bleeding. It seems to me the real losers & babies here are the cowardly members of ANTIFA. They all dress up like ISIS terrorists fighters wearing their black masks and all of them are mostly young white males. No way in hell are any of them successful in life & most likely still live at home with their parents. This has been thoroughly debunked. They were milkshakes. He’s a grifter who posted a gofundme asking for money for hospital bills and legal costs and nothing came of it. He also posted a hilarious tweet about how he was gripping a bowl of fruit and then randomly dropped it bc he claimed he suffered brain damage 🤣 Even if antifa fucked him up, he deserves it. He provides hit lists of journalists to Atomwaffen. He’s a fucking fascist (not just a conservative crank). He’s a nazi enabling scumbag, and he deserves every bad thing that happens to him. I wish him d•••h ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also which is it? Are antifa tough guys capable of giving someone brain damage or cowards/losers who live with their parents? It’s alarming that you fall for his grift and his sickening dishonesty. He was not minding his business. He never ever does. He goes looking to instigate and provoke, and when someone fights back, he plays victim and posts selective footage to his neo-nazi fanbase And again, even if antifa beat him, he deserves it. Nazis and their enablers deserved the absolute worst. It’s interesting you compare antifa to ISIS (a hollow/shallow comparison) when Nazi Ngo and his kind are the western version of ISIS (even worse in some ways)
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Post by jakesully on Sept 10, 2021 17:03:29 GMT
bump smh how did I miss this gem? Andy Ngo is a conservative gay Asian writer. He is like 5'5 120 pounds soaking wet. He's completely harmless and I don't blame him one bit for writing that book especially considering what ANTIFA did to him awhile back. And i like how this video downplayed it by saying ANTIFA "roughed up" Andy Ngo and had a warning disclaimer about the foul language being used (never mind the disturbing violence though ) This dude was just minding his own business and ended up getting brutally assaulted by these far left wing cowards. Ganging up on him and throwing quick drying cement mixture cups at him in the back of his head. He had to check himself into the hospital for brain bleeding. It seems to me the real losers & babies here are the cowardly members of ANTIFA. They all dress up like ISIS terrorists fighters wearing their black masks and all of them are mostly young white males. No way in hell are any of them successful in life & most likely still live at home with their parents. This has been thoroughly debunked. They were milkshakes. He’s a grifter who posted a gofundme asking for money for hospital bills and legal costs and nothing came of it. He also posted a hilarious tweet about how he was gripping a bowl of fruit and then randomly dropped it bc he claimed he suffered brain damage 🤣 Even if antifa fucked him up, he deserves it. He provides hit lists of journalists to Atomwaffen. He’s a fucking fascist (not just a conservative crank). He’s a nazi enabling scumbag, and he deserves every bad thing that happens to him. I wish him d•••h ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also which is it? Are antifa tough guys capable of giving someone brain damage or cowards/losers who live with their parents? It’s alarming that you fall for his grift and his sickening dishonesty. He was not minding his business. He never ever does. He goes looking to instigate and provoke, and when someone fights back, he plays victim and posts selective footage to his neo-nazi fanbase And again, even if antifa beat him, he deserves it. Nazis and their enablers deserved the absolute worst. It’s interesting you compare antifa to ISIS (a hollow/shallow comparison) when Nazi Ngo and his kind are the western version of ISIS (even worse in some ways) lmao where do I even begin with this bullshit? You nickname him "Nazi Ngo" all while he is a gay Asian guy. And its also quite ironic that your sig clearly says "Fuck Israel" yet you are labeling other people Nazis. lol you can't make this stupid shit up God forbid the Israel military protect their Jewish citizens from those blood thirsty Hamas psychos firing hundreds of missiles at them. And yeah ANTIFA are obviously made up of cowardly pussy losers that hide their identity and gang up on innocent people. For example, awhile back these ANTIFA idiots ganged up and beat a Bernie Sanders' supporter's brains in because he was holding up an American flag (they assaulted him because they think the American flag is a "fascist symbol") They are complete losers. I would never claim that they are "tough guys" ever. here's the link to that incident www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072also lol at you saying Andy Ngo posts "selective footage" . Uh the video I linked was clearly from someone else's video. Ngo had nothing to do with the video I linked (Ngo was too busy getting assaulted by ANTIFA in it)
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Post by hugobolso on Sept 10, 2021 21:54:16 GMT
Don't listen to Barbie is just an stupid brainless "girl" that reapeat the words that her great uncle Herr Adolf would be proud.-
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Sept 14, 2021 4:18:05 GMT
This has been thoroughly debunked. They were milkshakes. He’s a grifter who posted a gofundme asking for money for hospital bills and legal costs and nothing came of it. He also posted a hilarious tweet about how he was gripping a bowl of fruit and then randomly dropped it bc he claimed he suffered brain damage 🤣 Even if antifa fucked him up, he deserves it. He provides hit lists of journalists to Atomwaffen. He’s a fucking fascist (not just a conservative crank). He’s a nazi enabling scumbag, and he deserves every bad thing that happens to him. I wish him d•••h ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also which is it? Are antifa tough guys capable of giving someone brain damage or cowards/losers who live with their parents? It’s alarming that you fall for his grift and his sickening dishonesty. He was not minding his business. He never ever does. He goes looking to instigate and provoke, and when someone fights back, he plays victim and posts selective footage to his neo-nazi fanbase And again, even if antifa beat him, he deserves it. Nazis and their enablers deserved the absolute worst. It’s interesting you compare antifa to ISIS (a hollow/shallow comparison) when Nazi Ngo and his kind are the western version of ISIS (even worse in some ways) lmao where do I even begin with this bullshit? You nickname him "Nazi Ngo" all while he is a gay Asian guy. And its also quite ironic that your sig clearly says "Fuck Israel" yet you are labeling other people Nazis. lol you can't make this stupid shit up God forbid the Israel military protect their Jewish citizens from those blood thirsty Hamas psychos firing hundreds of missiles at them. And yeah ANTIFA are obviously made up of cowardly pussy losers that hide their identity and gang up on innocent people. For example, awhile back these ANTIFA idiots ganged up and beat a Bernie Sanders' supporter's brains in because he was holding up an American flag (they assaulted him because they think the American flag is a "fascist symbol") They are complete losers. I would never claim that they are "tough guys" ever. here's the link to that incident www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072also lol at you saying Andy Ngo posts "selective footage" . Uh the video I linked was clearly from someone else's video. Ngo had nothing to do with the video I linked (Ngo was too busy getting assaulted by ANTIFA in it) Ahh, poodle, you're a Republitwat too?!?! That explains sooo much!! No wonder you're such an odious lump of shit. And you're a Zionist enabler of war criminals too. What a cute combo! Barbie's 100% right: FUCK ISRAEL and their genocidal war crimes, fuck an enabler of bigoted RWNJ swine like Andy Ngo (too bad Antifa didn't finish the job!), and GOD BLESS ANTIFA AND THEIR GOOD WORK CRUSHING THE SCUM!! Now go suck off a Proud Boy & really make your side proud!! 🖕🤣 P.S.: Thanks for posting photos of that scumfuck and his beaten face. Good to brighten up any future day!
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Post by jakesully on Sept 14, 2021 11:19:05 GMT
lmao where do I even begin with this bullshit? You nickname him "Nazi Ngo" all while he is a gay Asian guy. And its also quite ironic that your sig clearly says "Fuck Israel" yet you are labeling other people Nazis. lol you can't make this stupid shit up God forbid the Israel military protect their Jewish citizens from those blood thirsty Hamas psychos firing hundreds of missiles at them. And yeah ANTIFA are obviously made up of cowardly pussy losers that hide their identity and gang up on innocent people. For example, awhile back these ANTIFA idiots ganged up and beat a Bernie Sanders' supporter's brains in because he was holding up an American flag (they assaulted him because they think the American flag is a "fascist symbol") They are complete losers. I would never claim that they are "tough guys" ever. here's the link to that incident www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072also lol at you saying Andy Ngo posts "selective footage" . Uh the video I linked was clearly from someone else's video. Ngo had nothing to do with the video I linked (Ngo was too busy getting assaulted by ANTIFA in it) Ahh, poodle, you're a Republitwat too?!?! That explains sooo much!! No wonder you're such an odious lump of shit. And you're a Zionist enabler of war criminals too. What a cute combo! Barbie's 100% right: FUCK ISRAEL and their genocidal war crimes, fuck an enabler of bigoted RWNJ swine like Andy Ngo (too bad Antifa didn't finish the job!), and GOD BLESS ANTIFA AND THEIR GOOD WORK CRUSHING THE SCUM!! Now go suck off a Proud Boy & really make your side proud!! 🖕🤣 P.S.: Thanks for posting photos of that scumfuck and his beaten face. Good to brighten up any future day! you sound like such an unhinged little twat loser right now . Also be careful with your anti Semitic rhetoric here. You flat out called the Jewish citizens "Zionists " for defending their country I've actually never voted for a Republican Presidential nominee in my life. I do support Israel over Palestine though Palestine citizens were literally dancing in the streets and chanting "Death to America " all while burning American flags . I can't support that shit. (sorry not sorry) I also don't support any kind of extremists on either side (not a fan of either ANTIFA or those Proud Boy guys)
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Sept 14, 2021 14:11:47 GMT
Ahh, poodle, you're a Republitwat too?!?! That explains sooo much!! No wonder you're such an odious lump of shit. And you're a Zionist enabler of war criminals too. What a cute combo! Barbie's 100% right: FUCK ISRAEL and their genocidal war crimes, fuck an enabler of bigoted RWNJ swine like Andy Ngo (too bad Antifa didn't finish the job!), and GOD BLESS ANTIFA AND THEIR GOOD WORK CRUSHING THE SCUM!! Now go suck off a Proud Boy & really make your side proud!! 🖕🤣 P.S.: Thanks for posting photos of that scumfuck and his beaten face. Good to brighten up any future day! you sound like such an unhinged little twat loser right now . Also be careful with your anti Semitic rhetoric here. You flat out called the Jewish citizens "Zionists " for defending their country I've actually never voted for a Republican Presidential nominee in my life. I do support Israel over Palestine though Palestine citizens were literally dancing in the streets and chanting "Death to America " all while burning American flags . I can't support that shit. (sorry not sorry) I also don't support any kind of extremists on either side (not a fan of either ANTIFA or those Proud Boy guys) Only the most braindead would use "defending their country" as a way to describe & defend war crimes and GENOCIDE! And yes, they are indeed (as the great Vanessa Redgrave once said) ZIONIST HOODLUMS!! Nothing "anti-semitic" about saying that, as many jews do NOT support the atrocities & crimes of the Israeli government. Also, as if that wasn't braindead enough, you say you support the massacring and ILLEGAL OCCUPATION of the Palestinians because SOME awful people were (allegedly) dancing in the streets and burning flags...during 9/11, I assume?? I've heard of a lot of idiotic reasons to defend the monstrous Israeli government, but that's up there. So if SOME Americans (like YOU) were celebrating and cheering Israeli's slaughtering of innocent Palestinians, then it would justify another country commiting terrorist acts on America?? Some logic there!!
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Sept 14, 2021 15:47:49 GMT
Ahh, poodle, you're a Republitwat too?!?! That explains sooo much!! No wonder you're such an odious lump of shit. And you're a Zionist enabler of war criminals too. What a cute combo! Barbie's 100% right: FUCK ISRAEL and their genocidal war crimes, fuck an enabler of bigoted RWNJ swine like Andy Ngo (too bad Antifa didn't finish the job!), and GOD BLESS ANTIFA AND THEIR GOOD WORK CRUSHING THE SCUM!! Now go suck off a Proud Boy & really make your side proud!! 🖕🤣 P.S.: Thanks for posting photos of that scumfuck and his beaten face. Good to brighten up any future day! you sound like such an unhinged little twat loser right now . Also be careful with your anti Semitic rhetoric here. You flat out called the Jewish citizens "Zionists " for defending their country I've actually never voted for a Republican Presidential nominee in my life. I do support Israel over Palestine though Palestine citizens were literally dancing in the streets and chanting "Death to America " all while burning American flags . I can't support that shit. (sorry not sorry) I also don't support any kind of extremists on either side (not a fan of either ANTIFA or those Proud Boy guys) 1) A lot of Jews would be disgusted be the way you weaponise anti-semitism to deflect from criticism of Israel. Anti-Zionism is NOT anti-semitism, as there are a plethora of Jews who oppose Zionism, (rightfully) viewing Israel as a colonising state. What else do you call Israeli settlements in the West Bank that infringe upon the land of Palestinians? What about the conflict earlier this year, which was sparked by the Israeli police violently storming the third holiest place in Islam? There is a significantly disproportionate number of Palestinian causalities because of Israel's enormous arsenal of weapons, which that crisis exposed (256 Palestinians dead vs 13 Israelis). You demonstrate little knowledge of this subject, so I'll just leave it up to ignorance. 2) You support Israel over Palestine because of people chanting "Death to America"? Maybe because the US gives Israel billions in aid per year, which contribute to their suffering? Maybe you're oblivious to how detested America is worldwide, with good reason, for their involvement in other countries. The chant was popularised during the Iranian Revolution, a reaction to the US overthrowing the beloved Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh and replacing him with the Shah. 3) Your most egregious point is drawing a demonstrably false moral equivalence between "ANTIFA" and groups like the Proud Boys, spewing that shitbrained "both sides are as bad as each other" centrist drivel. Yeeeah, no, anti-fascism is clearly not the same as a far-right chauvinist group of reactionary dickheads looking for an excuse to fight purely to fulfill their primalistic concept of masculinity, despite whatever inflammatory tabloid headlines you've read about "ANTIFA" which have selectively picked stories out of context for rage-clicks (an opportunistic tactic Andy Ngo knows well then plays the victim). Most importantly, "ANTIFA" isn't even an actual group - there's no leadership, no meetings. It's a decentralised movement of other groups at most, basically an idea. Literally a right-wing boogeyman. This is dangerous rhetoric because there were calls to designate "ANTIFA" as a terrorist organisation, even though there is no organisation. This is an excuse to clamp down on the legitimate right to protest. I'm sorry but if you're still falling for this shit, you're a dumbass.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 14, 2021 16:49:06 GMT
Lots of cavalier language being used in this thread - "A lot of Jews would be disgusted by the way you weaponise anti-semtism" Let's not speak for "a lot of Jews" ok?.......they "might" remind you that "anti-semitism" is always weaponized against them so you know I think they may forgive him since it was used to almost wipe them off the face of the Earth and stuff.......just sayin ""ANTIFA" isn't even an actual group - there's no leadership, no meetings. It's a decentralised movement of other groups at most, basically an idea." - Yeah, the way my boots up somebody's ass are an idea - if you go to the 9:30 Club in DC and just hang out anywhere that surrounds it and tell "it's not an actual" group - that's ridiculous......go there ANY day of the week, day or night .......I'm serious we have people who live in DC, right? I get the the Anti-Zionism position..........I get the Pro-Israel position too...........I don't get the blatant misleading nonsense being typed here - you people should try to argue the position you DON'T support and see how far you get ......the US gives billions to Israel because they're the only pro-Democracy ally in the region ......I mean, come on, that matters and not just in an "idealized theoretical way" ........and as for "how detested America is worldwide" - well that's what comes with being a superpower ....... just like how China is ammiright but......without all that messy Communism and human rights violations and shit.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Sept 14, 2021 18:00:02 GMT
Lots of cavalier language being used in this thread - "A lot of Jews would be disgusted by the way you weaponise anti-semtism" Let's not speak for "a lot of Jews" ok?.......they "might" remind you that "anti-semitism" is always weaponized against them so you know I think they may forgive him since it was used to almost wipe them off the face of the Earth and stuff.......just sayin ""ANTIFA" isn't even an actual group - there's no leadership, no meetings. It's a decentralised movement of other groups at most, basically an idea." - Yeah, the way my boots up somebody's ass are an idea - if you go to the 9:30 Club in DC and just hang out anywhere that surrounds it and tell "it's not an actual" group - that's ridiculous......go there ANY day of the week, day or night .......I'm serious we have people who live in DC, right? I get the the Anti-Zionism position..........I get the Pro-Israel position too...........I don't get the blatant misleading nonsense being typed here - you people should try to argue the position you DON'T support and see how far you get ......the US gives billions to Israel because they're the only pro-Democracy ally in the region ......I mean, come on, that matters and not just in an "idealized theoretical way" ........and as for "how detested America is worldwide" - well that's what comes with being a superpower ....... just like how China is ammiright but......without all that messy Communism and human rights violations and shit. Lol give me a fucking break. Starts by saying not to speak for Jews, proceeds to do exactly that. Anti-Semitism is not relevant to the discussion of the Israel/Palestine conflict, it's a lazy distraction and, ironically enough, it's kinda an anti-semitic talking-point in and of itself because it conflates the Israeli government with its citizens, as well as implies that the government is a representation of all Jews. If someone stuck their boot up your ass, you were probably being an asshole. Sorry to say it...... but "they" are still not a real group, though. This point isn't debatable, ANTIFA is in no way whatsoever an organisation and is not classified as such. It's a label, long been but now a pejorative, some modern McCarthyist buzzword to deride.....throwing a milkshake at Tommy Robinson? Like I said, it's a piss poor comparison to draw a moral equivalence between ANTIFA and far-right groups because the Proud Boys, to name but one example of many known groups, fit the structure of a legitimate organisation with hierarchy, aesthetic branding, political ambitions and a clear ideology, all designed to target and appeal to people. Having an ally in the Middle East does not matter if said ally is implementing an apartheid system. Also to say that America being detested is merely what comes with being a superpower is a preposterous statement. Doesn't this prove that the entire concept of a world superpower is one which is built on the exploitation of other nations, like America? While most world powers were engaging in decolonisation, the US was still meddling in Latin America. Until Americans start demanding less hawkish, imperialist governance it's a stretch to imagine that this resentment will just magically heal.
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Post by jakesully on Sept 14, 2021 18:06:26 GMT
you sound like such an unhinged little twat loser right now . Also be careful with your anti Semitic rhetoric here. You flat out called the Jewish citizens "Zionists " for defending their country I've actually never voted for a Republican Presidential nominee in my life. I do support Israel over Palestine though Palestine citizens were literally dancing in the streets and chanting "Death to America " all while burning American flags . I can't support that shit. (sorry not sorry) I also don't support any kind of extremists on either side (not a fan of either ANTIFA or those Proud Boy guys) Only the most braindead would use "defending their country" as a way to describe & defend war crimes and GENOCIDE! And yes, they are indeed (as the great Vanessa Redgrave once said) ZIONIST HOODLUMS!! Nothing "anti-semitic" about saying that, as many jews do NOT support the atrocities & crimes of the Israeli government. Also, as if that wasn't braindead enough, you say you support the massacring and ILLEGAL OCCUPATION of the Palestinians because SOME awful people were (allegedly) dancing in the streets and burning flags...during 9/11, I assume?? I've heard of a lot of idiotic reasons to defend the monstrous Israeli government, but that's up there. So if SOME Americans (like YOU) were celebrating and cheering Israeli's slaughtering of innocent Palestinians, then it would justify another country commiting terrorist acts on America?? Some logic there!! Yeah a lot of Palestinian citizens were cheering & dancing in the streets on 9/11/2001. There is nothing "allegedly" about it. Israel of course isn't perfect but they are one of the United States best allies. They are surrounded by countries that hate their guts (god forbid they defend themselves against those backwards acting Islamic countries. "Religion of Peace" my ass. its baffling to me why so many liberal people stick up and defend anything & everything Islam. A lot of those Islamic countries in the Middle East don't even give women basic human rights. You should read up on Sharia Law which is very popular among Muslims. You would think it'd make a liberal's head explode.
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Post by jakesully on Sept 14, 2021 18:21:18 GMT
you sound like such an unhinged little twat loser right now . Also be careful with your anti Semitic rhetoric here. You flat out called the Jewish citizens "Zionists " for defending their country I've actually never voted for a Republican Presidential nominee in my life. I do support Israel over Palestine though Palestine citizens were literally dancing in the streets and chanting "Death to America " all while burning American flags . I can't support that shit. (sorry not sorry) I also don't support any kind of extremists on either side (not a fan of either ANTIFA or those Proud Boy guys) 1) A lot of Jews would be disgusted be the way you weaponise anti-semitism to deflect from criticism of Israel. Anti-Zionism is NOT anti-semitism, as there are a plethora of Jews who oppose Zionism, (rightfully) viewing Israel as a colonising state. What else do you call Israeli settlements in the West Bank that infringe upon the land of Palestinians? What about the conflict earlier this year, which was sparked by the Israeli police violently storming the third holiest place in Islam? There is a significantly disproportionate number of Palestinian causalities because of Israel's enormous arsenal of weapons, which that crisis exposed (256 Palestinians dead vs 13 Israelis). You demonstrate little knowledge of this subject, so I'll just leave it up to ignorance. 2) You support Israel over Palestine because of people chanting "Death to America"? Maybe because the US gives Israel billions in aid per year, which contribute to their suffering? Maybe you're oblivious to how detested America is worldwide, with good reason, for their involvement in other countries. The chant was popularised during the Iranian Revolution, a reaction to the US overthrowing the beloved Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh and replacing him with the Shah. 3) Your most egregious point is drawing a demonstrably false moral equivalence between "ANTIFA" and groups like the Proud Boys, spewing that shitbrained "both sides are as bad as each other" centrist drivel. Yeeeah, no, anti-fascism is clearly not the same as a far-right chauvinist group of reactionary dickheads looking for an excuse to fight purely to fulfill their primalistic concept of masculinity, despite whatever inflammatory tabloid headlines you've read about "ANTIFA" which have selectively picked stories out of context for rage-clicks (an opportunistic tactic Andy Ngo knows well then plays the victim). Most importantly, "ANTIFA" isn't even an actual group - there's no leadership, no meetings. It's a decentralised movement of other groups at most, basically an idea. Literally a right-wing boogeyman. This is dangerous rhetoric because there were calls to designate "ANTIFA" as a terrorist organisation, even though there is no organisation. This is an excuse to clamp down on the legitimate right to protest. I'm sorry but if you're still falling for this shit, you're a dumbass. lol at you defending ANTIFA here. I posted a link earlier in this very thread to a video & news story of ANTIFA cowards beating a Bernie Sanders supporter's brains in (all because he was holding an American flag. Which is apparently a "fascist symbol" to them) Here is a refresher for ya. www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072How can anyone defend this type of bullshit behavior??
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 14, 2021 18:30:54 GMT
Lots of cavalier language being used in this thread - "A lot of Jews would be disgusted by the way you weaponise anti-semtism" Let's not speak for "a lot of Jews" ok?.......they "might" remind you that "anti-semitism" is always weaponized against them so you know I think they may forgive him since it was used to almost wipe them off the face of the Earth and stuff.......just sayin ""ANTIFA" isn't even an actual group - there's no leadership, no meetings. It's a decentralised movement of other groups at most, basically an idea." - Yeah, the way my boots up somebody's ass are an idea - if you go to the 9:30 Club in DC and just hang out anywhere that surrounds it and tell "it's not an actual" group - that's ridiculous......go there ANY day of the week, day or night .......I'm serious we have people who live in DC, right? I get the the Anti-Zionism position..........I get the Pro-Israel position too...........I don't get the blatant misleading nonsense being typed here - you people should try to argue the position you DON'T support and see how far you get ......the US gives billions to Israel because they're the only pro-Democracy ally in the region ......I mean, come on, that matters and not just in an "idealized theoretical way" ........and as for "how detested America is worldwide" - well that's what comes with being a superpower ....... just like how China is ammiright but......without all that messy Communism and human rights violations and shit. Lol give me a fucking break. Starts by saying not to speak for Jews, proceeds to do exactly that. Anti-Semitism is not relevant to the discuss of the Israel/Palestine conflict, If someone stuck their boot up your ass, you were probably being an asshole. Sorry to say it...... but "they" are still not a real group, though. This point isn't debatable, ANTIFA is in no way whatsoever an organisation and is not classified as such. It's a label, long been but now a pejorative, Having an ally in the Middle East does not matter if said ally is implementing an apartheid system. Also to say that America being detested is merely what comes with being a superpower is a preposterous statement. 1. No.......I said not to speak for the Jews and then said " maybe they'd say" but that joke got lost on you because like most (theoretical) radicals you have no sense of humor and didn't get that joke 2. Blah blah blah - you still aren't going to the 9:30 club like I asked and since, you know, you don't live in America - I'mmina gently say what I saw in the NATION'S CAPITAL sort of trumps whatever you have "read" in wherever you live. Is that "possible" to you or no? Do I tell you about the nuances of your country and act like I know more about than you? Seriously......... Wtf.......... 3. There are 2 Superpowers in the world atm...........both are detested.........America has interests in the world, now you can keep thinking that the world spins forward i n spite of that but it does not - it spins forward because of that...........we're not Sweden .........the stakes are different, the behavior is different......that "the US gives them billions" has a goal -a very valid one......those billions paid for their Star Wars system which saved a whole lot of lives.........we should give them more. See? That's a complex idea - two things can be true at once ........but not if people are listening to you - I'm not saying you have no point - I'm saying you play fast and loose with the whole picture.: This discussion is far more complex than you are (mis)articulating - there have been gross injustices on both sides ...........Antifa does exist.............and by extension if Israel was wiped off the face of the Earth................. it would not be a good thing.........quite the opposite.......
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Post by jakesully on Sept 14, 2021 20:19:26 GMT
Lol give me a fucking break. Starts by saying not to speak for Jews, proceeds to do exactly that. Anti-Semitism is not relevant to the discuss of the Israel/Palestine conflict, If someone stuck their boot up your ass, you were probably being an asshole. Sorry to say it...... but "they" are still not a real group, though. This point isn't debatable, ANTIFA is in no way whatsoever an organisation and is not classified as such. It's a label, long been but now a pejorative, Having an ally in the Middle East does not matter if said ally is implementing an apartheid system. Also to say that America being detested is merely what comes with being a superpower is a preposterous statement. 1. No.......I said not to speak for the Jews and then said " maybe they'd say" but that joke got lost on you because like most (theoretical) radicals you have no sense of humor and didn't get that joke 2. Blah blah blah - you still aren't going to the 9:30 club like I asked and since, you know, you don't live in America - I'mmina gently say what I saw in the NATION'S CAPITAL sort of trumps whatever you have "read" in wherever you live. Is that "possible" to you or no? Do I tell you about the nuances of your country and act like I know more about than you? Seriously......... Wtf.......... 3. There are 2 Superpowers in the world atm...........both are detested.........America has interests in the world, now you can keep thinking that the world spins forward i n spite of that but it does not - it spins forward because of that...........we're not Sweden .........the stakes are different, the behavior is different......that "the US gives them billions" has a goal -a very valid one......those billions paid for their Star Wars system which saved a whole lot of lives.........we should give them more. See? That's a complex idea - two things can be true at once ........but not if people are listening to you - I'm not saying you have no point - I'm saying you play fast and loose with the whole picture.: This discussion is far more complex than you are (mis)articulating - there have been gross injustices on both sides ...........Antifa does exist.............and by extension if Israel was wiped off the face of the Earth................. it would not be a good thing.........quite the opposite....... Good post. But I'm sure some of these posters on here will call you a "Zionist supporting murderer " or whatever their laughably stupid buzz word of the day is. Also to the poster that keeps saying that Israel is committing "genocide". That is flat out untrue and a completely ignorant thing to say. And its also so laughably stupid for some of these posters like Barbie for example to nickname a gay Asian guy a "Nazi" (all while having a "Fuck Israel" slogan in their signature .
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Sept 14, 2021 20:51:38 GMT
Lol give me a fucking break. Starts by saying not to speak for Jews, proceeds to do exactly that. Anti-Semitism is not relevant to the discuss of the Israel/Palestine conflict, If someone stuck their boot up your ass, you were probably being an asshole. Sorry to say it...... but "they" are still not a real group, though. This point isn't debatable, ANTIFA is in no way whatsoever an organisation and is not classified as such. It's a label, long been but now a pejorative, Having an ally in the Middle East does not matter if said ally is implementing an apartheid system. Also to say that America being detested is merely what comes with being a superpower is a preposterous statement. 1. No.......I said not to speak for the Jews and then said " maybe they'd say" but that joke got lost on you because like most (theoretical) radicals you have no sense of humor and didn't get that joke 2. Blah blah blah - you still aren't going to the 9:30 club like I asked and since, you know, you don't live in America - I'mmina gently say what I saw in the NATION'S CAPITAL sort of trumps whatever you have "read" in wherever you live. Is that "possible" to you or no? Do I tell you about the nuances of your country and act like I know more about than you? Seriously......... Wtf.......... 3. There are 2 Superpowers in the world atm...........both are detested.........America has interests in the world, now you can keep thinking that the world spins forward i n spite of that but it does not - it spins forward because of that...........we're not Sweden .........the stakes are different, the behavior is different......that "the US gives them billions" has a goal -a very valid one......those billions paid for their Star Wars system which saved a whole lot of lives.........we should give them more. See? That's a complex idea - two things can be true at once ........but not if people are listening to you - I'm not saying you have no point - I'm saying you play fast and loose with the whole picture.: This discussion is far more complex than you are (mis)articulating - there have been gross injustices on both sides ...........Antifa does exist.............and by extension if Israel was wiped off the face of the Earth................. it would not be a good thing.........quite the opposite....... You are not only WRONG about this issue, you are DEAD WRONG and HOPELESSLY WRONG. Israel is an apartheid state, they are war criminals, they ARE committing genocide, and they SHOULD be BOYCOTTED DIVESTED & SANCTIONED. That's really all there is to it. You are buying the propaganda of the imperialist U.S. empire. Sad!
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Post by jakesully on Sept 14, 2021 21:43:34 GMT
1. No.......I said not to speak for the Jews and then said " maybe they'd say" but that joke got lost on you because like most (theoretical) radicals you have no sense of humor and didn't get that joke 2. Blah blah blah - you still aren't going to the 9:30 club like I asked and since, you know, you don't live in America - I'mmina gently say what I saw in the NATION'S CAPITAL sort of trumps whatever you have "read" in wherever you live. Is that "possible" to you or no? Do I tell you about the nuances of your country and act like I know more about than you? Seriously......... Wtf.......... 3. There are 2 Superpowers in the world atm...........both are detested.........America has interests in the world, now you can keep thinking that the world spins forward i n spite of that but it does not - it spins forward because of that...........we're not Sweden .........the stakes are different, the behavior is different......that "the US gives them billions" has a goal -a very valid one......those billions paid for their Star Wars system which saved a whole lot of lives.........we should give them more. See? That's a complex idea - two things can be true at once ........but not if people are listening to you - I'm not saying you have no point - I'm saying you play fast and loose with the whole picture.: This discussion is far more complex than you are (mis)articulating - there have been gross injustices on both sides ...........Antifa does exist.............and by extension if Israel was wiped off the face of the Earth................. it would not be a good thing.........quite the opposite....... You are not only WRONG about this issue, you are DEAD WRONG and HOPELESSLY WRONG. Israel is an apartheid state, they are war criminals, they ARE committing genocide, ad they SHOULD be BOYCOTTED DIVESTED & SANCTIONED. That's really all there is to it. You are buying the propaganda of the imperialist U.S. empire. Sad! I usually try to shy away from using personal attacks on other posters but holy fucking shit you are so insanely ignorant & too stupid for words I honestly don't even feel bad about calling you an idiot because you sure as shit love to name call other posters on here lol. And there you go again claiming Israel is committing genocide (without any proof of it) no links nothing to back up those claims. Pathetic
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Sept 14, 2021 22:08:09 GMT
You are not only WRONG about this issue, you are DEAD WRONG and HOPELESSLY WRONG. Israel is an apartheid state, they are war criminals, they ARE committing genocide, ad they SHOULD be BOYCOTTED DIVESTED & SANCTIONED. That's really all there is to it. You are buying the propaganda of the imperialist U.S. empire. Sad! I usually try to shy away from using personal attacks on other posters but holy fucking shit you are so insanely ignorant & too stupid for words I honestly don't even feel bad about calling you an idiot because you sure as shit love to name call other posters on here lol. And there you go again claiming Israel is committing genocide (without any proof of it) no links nothing to back up those claims. Pathetic I think you're a dumb odious pathetic braindead snobbish smug piece of maggot shit CUNT, so you insulting me is just another badge of honor. I knew you were a negative prick with GARBAGE movie opinions, but your posts in here and the Biden thread have revealed your gutter reactionary political opinions too, so I know what a despicable human being you are. Fuck yourself to death FOREVER!! 🖕💩🖕
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Post by jakesully on Sept 14, 2021 23:32:28 GMT
I usually try to shy away from using personal attacks on other posters but holy fucking shit you are so insanely ignorant & too stupid for words I honestly don't even feel bad about calling you an idiot because you sure as shit love to name call other posters on here lol. And there you go again claiming Israel is committing genocide (without any proof of it) no links nothing to back up those claims. Pathetic I think you're a dumb odious pathetic braindead snobbish smug piece of maggot shit CUNT, so you insulting me is just another badge of honor. I knew you were a negative prick with GARBAGE movie opinions, but your posts in here and the Biden thread have revealed your gutter reactionary political opinions too, so I know what a despicable human being you are. Fuck yourself to death FOREVER!! 🖕💩🖕 and yet you still have no links posted to show us all how Israel is committing genocide. too damn funny but not surprising. you are a pathetic joke
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 14, 2021 23:44:21 GMT
I think you're a dumb odious pathetic braindead snobbish smug piece of maggot shit CUNT, so you insulting me is just another badge of honor. I knew you were a negative prick with GARBAGE movie opinions, but your posts in here and the Biden thread have revealed your gutter reactionary political opinions too, so I know what a despicable human being you are. Fuck yourself to death FOREVER!! 🖕💩🖕 and yet you still have no links posted to show us all how Israel is committing genocide. too damn funny but not surprising. you are a pathetic joke That which is asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence, as Hitchens said.
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