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Post by pacinoyes on May 16, 2021 17:28:09 GMT
Better than Crosby..........Ovechkin? This year: 56 games played : 33 goals; 72 assists; 105 points - his 3rd points crown already - those are approaching Gretzky / Lemieux numbers in a far less high flying era. He won the point crown over his own teammate by 21 points......and the number 3 (Brad Marchand) by .......36 (um) Probably about to win his 2nd Hart Trophy as MVP. He's 24.............and healthy 
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 27, 2022 13:08:54 GMT
McDavid after struggling a bit is starting to ramp it up .......leads the league in scoring again - 75 points in 51 games(28 goals, 47 assists)This year doesn't match his all-timer year (in a shortened season) last year where he may have broken records - 105 points in 56 games - almost 2 points per game (33 goals, 72 assists)But.........lately he's been on fire and racking up points, he's likely to win his 4th scoring title already (he's still just now 25) - and maybe another MVP (he has 2)........will be interesting to see where he ends up this year - and in the playoffs - and if he can win a Stanley Cup.........they fired their coach this year. He's gotten his PPG up to 1.5 .......and it's rising. Amazing player ...very pressure in on kind of year for him and his team...... 
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Post by michael128 on Mar 17, 2022 1:38:58 GMT
obviously
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Post by dazed on Mar 19, 2022 20:13:46 GMT
even better
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 27, 2022 12:20:57 GMT
Don't want to give him credit for things he hasn't done yet.......... but he is in a really good spot for a "Gretzky-like" stat - but he has to win a Cup too ....if he does this, below - it's the best team athlete in pro sports maybe too.........and of course still at his peak...... He leads the current scoring race and if he holds on ... Holding on for the scoring grown would make McDavid just the seventh player in NHL history to win it four times, joining Wayne Gretzky (10), Gordie Howe (six), Mario Lemieux (six), Phil Esposito (five), Jaromir Jagr (five) and Stan Mikita (four). But many of those players did the majority of their damage in their mid-to-late 20s. McDavid is only 25. He would become just the third player in NHL history to win four scoring titles before his 26th birthday. The other two are Gretzky and Howe. If McDavid carries his momentum into next season and repeats the feat, he’ll enter living-legend territory. Capturing the Art Ross this season and winning it next season would make him just the second player after Gretzky to do it five times by 26.www.dailyfaceoff.com/connor-mcdavid-remains-on-track-to-be-a-top-five-offensive-playerever/
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 30, 2022 1:55:35 GMT
Can't compare with his amazing shortened season in 2021 - 105 points in 56 games - almost 2 points per game (33 goals, 72 assists) - but rolling right along at a full season career pace. He sat out tonight........so his final numbers: McDavid holds an eight-point lead in the final day of the game, the Art Ross race, but guarantees that he will win his fourth scoring title in his seven-year career. The 25-year-old finishes his best season with goals (44), assists (79) and points (123).eminetracanada.com/connor-mcdavid-leon-draisaitl-resting-oilers-for-finale-vs-canax/504824/
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 9, 2023 20:02:34 GMT
2023 update51 games in 2023 (no missed games) - 41 goals, 52 assists, 93 points, 1.8 points per game - 17 points ahead in the scoring race (this would be his 5th Art Ross)  .......soon to obliterate his personal goal scoring high (44 goals) and last years career points high (123) Amazing numbers again ......no one has scored 130 points since 1995/1996 ..........he's on pace for 144 ........
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Post by tep on Feb 14, 2023 20:00:40 GMT
For sure better than Gretzky. Definitely in the top 3 ever, probably #1. And not to brag, but I was vaguely acquainted with him back when he was on the Erie Otters 😏…. although I’m sure he doesn’t remember me lol
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 8, 2023 10:41:51 GMT
What a year  ...... Gretzky, Lemieux, Howe, Orr......he's going to be in that exclusive league....... if he isn't already.......which he is......Stanley Cup race is wide open this year too.......which he needs to win.......... 
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Post by dazed on Apr 9, 2023 17:00:04 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on May 15, 2023 11:41:18 GMT
I love him and think he is the best since Gretzky / Lemieux .......but there are people in this thread who literally said he's "better" than the 2 GOATs (imo) which is either just contarianism or recentism as of 2023 at least .....he has to win - at least a Cup.....probably 2.....
I didn't include Ovechkin / Crosby in the thread title but you could still make a case without a Cup - in his prime no less - he's under the guy who will be the all-time career goal scorer in a couple years and also under the guy who won saying 2 Cups with 2 different (mostly) rosters before he tops Gretzky / Lemieux
Ymmv
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 15, 2023 13:12:15 GMT
pacinoyes do you think Connor Bedard has the potential to reach McDavid’s level?
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Post by pacinoyes on May 15, 2023 13:31:09 GMT
pacinoyes do you think Connor Bedard has the potential to reach McDavid’s level? Depends on if he can hang physically - or if he can add bulk - maybe - I think he's smaller than most of the "can't miss" picks recently but he's supposed to be a dazzling player.......will be something to see what the franchise does to surround him with a supporting cast to maximize him. I don't know about "reach" McDavid's level because it's possible he hasn't peaked yet ........but in that general conversation, sure........ Tbh it's just nice to have the "next big thing" be in a hockey city that isn't Pittsburgh or Edmonton
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 19, 2023 11:17:24 GMT
Forgot to post that he won the Hart Trophy a few weeks back - his 3rd in 7 years - which ties him with Lemieux.
Gretzky won that 9 times (Howe 6) but 3 already is insanely impressive - that ties Orr and Ovechkin also.......might be the best athlete in any sport without the big title in his sport .....
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Post by tep on Jul 19, 2023 19:36:33 GMT
Yeah, I'm thinking McDavid's gonna be remembered as the best of all time. Bedard won't come close
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