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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 13, 2021 23:48:00 GMT
Best Edited Feature Film – Dramatic Kirk Baxter – Mank Harry Yoon – Minari Chloé Zhao – Nomadland Mikkel E.G. Nielsen – Sound of Metal Alan Baumgarten – The Trial of the Chicago 7Best Edited Feature Film – Comedy or Musical James Thomas, Craig Alpert and Mike Giambra – Borat Subsequent Moviefilm Mark Eckersley – I Care a Lot Sarah Flack – On the Rocks Matthew Friedman and Andrew Dickler – Palm Springs Frédéric Thoraval – Promising Young Woman
This is the last of the major Guilds.
The Trial of the Chicago 7 won the Satellite and the Critics Choice. Sound of Metal took home the Critics Choice (tied with Chicago 7)and the BAFTA.
Promising Young Woman is the only Comedy/Musical ACE nominee up for best film editing at the Oscars.
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Post by stephen on Apr 13, 2021 23:52:57 GMT
Promising Young Woman/Sound of Metal.
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 14, 2021 5:21:30 GMT
PYW and Sound of Metal.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 14, 2021 19:54:51 GMT
PYW / Chicago 7
Sound of Metal doesn't have editing.
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Post by JangoB on Apr 14, 2021 20:07:16 GMT
PYW / Chicago 7 Sound of Metal doesn't have editing.Pardon? |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 14, 2021 20:27:45 GMT
PYW / Chicago 7 Sound of Metal doesn't have editing.Pardon? nothing remotely noticeable about its editing at all. That's not inherently bad, a lot of terrific movies have lowkey editing, but it makes zero sense that it's being highlighted in that field. It's on par with one-location, sitcom-looking Same Time, Next Year being nominated for cinematography. |
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Post by JangoB on Apr 14, 2021 22:12:46 GMT
nothing remotely noticeable about its editing at all. That's not inherently bad, a lot of terrific movies have lowkey editing, but it makes zero sense that it's being highlighted in that field. It's on par with one-location, sitcom-looking Same Time, Next Year being nominated for cinematography. While I do think that its Editing wins can in many ways be attributed to its connection with music (despite the actual lack of performance sequences), I'm also of the opinion that the work is actually rather solid in the piece. The movie's got a pretty gradual flow but I think that there is something to be said about how it slowly draws you deeper and deeper into the character's deafness, almost making you accept it right along with him. It could've had many smash cuts to silence (and those that are there work very well) but it opts for a steadier, calmer approach and actually succeeds (imo) in putting you into his experience. It's not a very flashy editing job and I also prefer other contenders this year, but I'm kind of fine with it being in the lead even if the voters may vote for it on a superficial basis which isn't even true in this case (it ain't no Whiplash). It's mainly those choices of when and how the movie switches between sound and silence where the editing shines for me. Although I personally don't nominate it or anything. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 16, 2021 16:04:30 GMT
I hear what you're saying JangoB but isn't that stuff more a function of the sound department? You don't see me complaining that it's the frontrunner in sound, but if editing is a function of cutting frames together I can't see how a win there makes any kind of sense. I wouldn't count out The Father or Chicago 7 at all regardless of precursor picks because this has been such a messy cycle. Both of those have much showier and interesting cuts and are more typical to what this group goes with. And if the voters want to spread the love I can see them throwing a bone to Lamprinos or Baumgarten because SoM is guaranteed at least one win while Father and Chicago aren't . |
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Post by stephen on Apr 16, 2021 16:29:11 GMT
I hear what you're saying JangoB but isn't that stuff more a function of the sound department? You don't see me complaining that it's the frontrunner in sound, but if editing is a function of cutting frames together I can't see how a win there makes any kind of sense. I wouldn't count out The Father or Chicago 7 at all regardless of precursor picks because this has been such a messy cycle. Both of those have much showier and interesting cuts and are more typical to what this group goes with. And if the voters want to spread the love I can see them throwing a bone to Lamprinos or Baumgarten because SoM is guaranteed at least one win while Father and Chicago aren't .The reason that sound and editing have been so heavily linked in recent years is because the sound draws attention to the cuts, and with the stellar sound design on Sound of Metal, it draws attention to the rhythm and the flow of the piece. It's not as frenetic as something like Whiplash, but it isn't exactly Bela Tarr territory. |
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Post by JangoB on Apr 16, 2021 20:10:24 GMT
I hear what you're saying JangoB but isn't that stuff more a function of the sound department? You don't see me complaining that it's the frontrunner in sound, but if editing is a function of cutting frames together I can't see how a win there makes any kind of sense. I wouldn't count out The Father or Chicago 7 at all regardless of precursor picks because this has been such a messy cycle. Both of those have much showier and interesting cuts and are more typical to what this group goes with. And if the voters want to spread the love I can see them throwing a bone to Lamprinos or Baumgarten because SoM is guaranteed at least one win while Father and Chicago aren't .Editing is also about finding a rhythm and telling a story. If we narrow it down to the literal technical process of cutting frames together then why praise "Chicago 7" or "The Father"? Don't they just cut frames according to the script? And if that's the case. what's more interesting about their cuts than about the cuts to silence and back in "Sound of Metal"? Just the fact that there're more of them?  Again, I've specifically repeated that I wouldn't give "Sound of Metal" an editing win and that in many ways its wins are linked with the sound design and that voters may pick it on a superficial basis of 'it's got music'. But I think the work itself is quite solid. Although I do agree that it'd be a rather atypical winner if we look at what AMPAS usually goes for in this category. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 17, 2021 18:57:38 GMT
The winners so far: Edited Limited Series – The Queen’s Gambit Unscripted Series winner – Cheer God Blessed Texas Unscripted
Animated non-theatrical – Rick and Morty
Variety Talk Show – American Utopia
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 17, 2021 19:18:06 GMT
Documentary – My Octopus Teacher Documentary non-theatrical – The Last Dance Drama Series -Commercial – Better Call Saul
Comedy Series Television non-Commercial – Ted Lasso
Comedy Series Commercial – Schitt’s Creek Happy Ending
Animated Feature – Soul Drama – Non-Commercial – Ozark My Octopus Teacher is the clear favorite to win. Soul has won all the animated feature awards.
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 17, 2021 19:54:46 GMT
Palm Spring wins Comedy/Musical Editing!
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Post by Miles Morales on Apr 17, 2021 19:55:55 GMT
Palm Spring wins Comedy/Musical Editing! Wow that came out of nowhere. I thought PYW had it in the bag. |
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Post by stephen on Apr 17, 2021 19:56:10 GMT
This season is insane.
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 17, 2021 19:58:45 GMT
Yeah. I like the surprises and shocker elements. Oscar night will probably be predictable for the non-major. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 17, 2021 20:01:33 GMT
Chicago 7 takes the ACE Drama.
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Post by wilcinema on Apr 17, 2021 20:15:10 GMT
Palm Springs is a deserving winner. Meh at Chicago 7.
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 17, 2021 20:20:58 GMT
Palm Springs is a deserving winner. Meh at Chicago 7. Oh I thought Chicago 7 was a great film. The editing was really good. However, I am still leaning toward Sound of Metal here due to the Sound and Editing marriage. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 17, 2021 20:36:24 GMT
hmmmmmmm.... iiiiinteresting
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 17, 2021 20:43:32 GMT
hmmmmmmm.... iiiiinteresting Editing and Actress are up for grabs.
Editing = Chicago 7 or Sound of Metal Actress = Day vs. Mulligan vs. Davis vs. McDormand
I would also argue Chicago 7's Oscar chances went up for Best Picture. Chicago 7 has 3 Guild wins. Two of them came from a major category.
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Post by JangoB on Apr 17, 2021 20:53:09 GMT
Very interesting. PYW missing is so weird to me.
Editors choosing Chicago 7 does make sense though. I still don't think the entirery of AMPAS will follow suit but at the same time I can kinda see it win a lone Editing award too.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Apr 18, 2021 1:58:49 GMT
Very interesting. PYW missing is so weird to me. Editors choosing Chicago 7 does make sense though. I still don't think the entirery of AMPAS will follow suit but at the same time I can kinda see it win a lone Editing award too. Why doesn’t it make sense? |
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Post by JangoB on Apr 18, 2021 6:58:05 GMT
Very interesting. PYW missing is so weird to me. Editors choosing Chicago 7 does make sense though. I still don't think the entirery of AMPAS will follow suit but at the same time I can kinda see it win a lone Editing award too. Why doesn’t it make sense? Huh? |
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 18, 2021 7:04:51 GMT
Palm Spring wins Comedy/Musical Editing! Lmao this is just  |
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