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Post by iheartamyadams on Sept 2, 2022 11:31:37 GMT
I said this once on MAR - but there's only a few stars in the movies - ever - who have had a commercial career and an entirely separate "experimental" career in film / TV / theater like she has.......and not as successful at it as her either tbh ........not that Burt Lancaster thing of "make one for them, one for you" - a lot of people do that - or mix prestige & Pop movies - but an entirely separate run of experimental work that sometimes becomes part of their commercial career at the same time. Olivier, Pacino, PSH - it's usually men - but (especially) Huppert too - have had this - but I actually think that if this film is like what it appears to be - and she is nodded - this is potentially a historic type of turn for Blanchett in this specific way that "acting" is perceived: Because with her it's rarely about how good she is - it's more about good she is at things no one else would be in - regardless of its commercial potential - and that makes it appear like there's nothing she can't do - and that the greatest trick for an actor - because all actors have things they can't do......but she makes her career a testament to Acting as Experimentation. Blanchett already has an Oscar nod for playing a famous man ffs, she has Manifesto (which no one has, come on - some people would call THAT her best even), a bunch of stage roles that are experimental af, Stateless on TV ........this "seems" like an experiental movie - or as experiimental as things that compete for Oscars can be - and she may win for it.....that's amazing even if she doesn't win - it isn't just prestige, it's investigational and could easily fail - that's the key: There's never been an actress in English quite like her because of this experimental / commercial 1-2 punch and its overlap between the two ......even if people hate her because they are fncking dumb as rocks (um) - that specific achievement ^ - would be more than enough alone to be in awe of her......my guess is this going to become more clearly spelled out when they do promotion for this movie - which was written for her, which wouldn't exist without her and the fact that she's just 53 ....... Great points, She is in a similar and rarified air like DDL that I can actually see her winning a third Oscar. These raves are icing on the cake for an actress who is worshipped by her peers and who has had a stellar career. Yeah, this was my first thought too after seeing these raves. Definitely feels like she’s getting there. I still have questions on how far the film is going to with the industry.. Neither of the trailers suggested that the film would be very accessible, but people who have seen in are saying it is. If it is, I really don’t see why she wouldn’t win again. Definitely not buying into Michelle Yeoh at all, never have, and I’m starting to get nervous with how quiet things feel on Babylon.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 2, 2022 12:57:56 GMT
You know, actually I will give yet another reason she's in that Streep / Huppert GOAT in general tier already - and yeah I'm doing a lot of talking for someone who hasn't seen Tár but she also stands apart from DDL too. Now obviously she evokes him - specifically in terms of (awesome) technique - and people criticize both for that as too much...... but you could criticize Day-Lewis and say he didn't work enough, or he had to "gear up" for his big performances - that his "perfection" was based on his technique - and wouldn't work if his preparation was disrupted in any way. Blanchett is not subject to even that criticism at all imo - in fact, she's rather the opposite of DDL in that way - that's what I meant where I said she gives the "illusion" that she can play anything to general audiences - because she's already played so much across all movie genres that it doesn't seem like she's "Oscar chasing" either...... DDL was not subject to that same luxury - with just 19 roles (iirc) he couldn't be - the career was awesome but not indicative of every actor who rivals him..... and she didn't retire from the stage or TV........ and she didn't retire from the big screen either......she's messier........more human......and actually more impressive to me (and I love DDL but I wouldn't rank him in the Brando / DePac tier or whatever). I mean she has an Almodóvar next year ffs.........she's just relentless
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Post by wilcinema on Sept 2, 2022 16:12:55 GMT
Blanchett's cold, clinical technical prowess is actually a pro in TAR, and you'll see what I mean when you guys watch the film. It's a highly calculated performance for a reason, and it makes sense that Todd Field wrote this character specifically for her.
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Post by iheartamyadams on Sept 2, 2022 16:53:28 GMT
Blanchett's cold, clinical technical prowess is actually a pro in TAR, and you'll see what I mean when you guys watch the film. It's a highly calculated performance for a reason, and it makes sense that Todd Field wrote this character specifically for her. Do you think she’s winning?
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Post by wilcinema on Sept 2, 2022 20:01:24 GMT
Blanchett's cold, clinical technical prowess is actually a pro in TAR, and you'll see what I mean when you guys watch the film. It's a highly calculated performance for a reason, and it makes sense that Todd Field wrote this character specifically for her. Do you think she’s winning? Good question. The role itself is not the kind of Oscar role that usually wins but the performance is simply undeniable.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 2, 2022 21:10:43 GMT
Do you think she’s winning? Good question. The role itself is not the kind of Oscar role that usually wins but the performance is simply undeniable. If it's not a spoiler - or just put it under a spoiler tag - would you say this role fits the category of an "anti-hero"? One of the things I really love about her best work and that excited me in the trailer is when she goes into that - again, usually male - territory. I said this about Mrs. America - especially how she played that role like someone would play a heroine but at the same time she didn't make her villian-y "softer" at all...... I love roles like that - hero(ine) as villain and vice versa - and I ridiculously loved that Mrs. America portrayal .....I'm hoping that Field writing it for her tapped into one of her strengths.
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Post by wilcinema on Sept 2, 2022 21:30:27 GMT
Good question. The role itself is not the kind of Oscar role that usually wins but the performance is simply undeniable. If it's not a spoiler - or just put it under a spoiler tag - would you say this role fits the category of an "anti-hero"? One of the things I really love about her best work and that excited me in the trailer is when she goes into that - again, usually male - territory. I said this about Mrs. America - especially how she played that role like someone would play a heroine but at the same time she didn't make her villian-y "softer" at all...... I love roles like that - hero(ine) as villain and vice versa - and I ridiculously loved that Mrs. America portrayal .....I'm hoping that Field writing it for her tapped into one of her strengths. You’re gonna love this one because this character is in that grey area where she can be a sort of villain but also you can sense that there’s something troubling her. I know you like performances that deviate from the written page, and there’s a lot of that too…
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Sept 3, 2022 5:17:16 GMT
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Sept 21, 2022 2:42:29 GMT
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Post by stabcaesar on Sept 21, 2022 16:17:59 GMT
Very exciting, though on tv I think there already is one female character who'd make Daniel Plainview shit his pants: Elizabeth Jennings in The Americans.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 21, 2022 18:38:00 GMT
Well, Im sure she's "very TWBB" in it - and like I've said the same way he's the great actor of this era - she's the great actress......although I'mmina say personally she's higher on my list of the GOAT actresses than he is on my list of GOAT actors - (calm down, love 'em both - ). Tbh "Ferocity, charisma and monumental destructive narcissism" sounds an awful lot like her own Mrs. America to me - so you don't have to go back that far - that was only 2 years ago ffs - or look at a male (typical, pfft).......or another person at all even.....
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Post by futuretrunks on Sept 21, 2022 21:29:31 GMT
Plainview was a one-dimensional performance, largely because of the poor screenplay. Interesting vocal work, but that's about it. Not surprised to see Blanchett's brand of extreme ham likened to overpraised DDL work.
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Post by JangoB on Sept 28, 2022 15:21:25 GMT
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Post by wallsofjericho on Sept 28, 2022 16:06:09 GMT
Liking the horror vibe to this and of course Cate looks fantastic.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 28, 2022 16:53:37 GMT
Never has an actress used her hands like Cate Blanchett - I've said this before - she is so technically peerless with her physicality that you can read entire performances through her body acting - she grabs that metronome like she's grabbing somebody's neck .....
Just her playing a conductor is in itself brilliant - it's like Hopkins in The Father with his "hesitating" way of speaking dovetailing exactly with a man who's mind was slipping away so you were never quite sure where the character and actor were meeting.
Blanchett's hands just in this trailer are like knives or thunderous hammers, they are also her ears (literally, 1:47) and........ a gun (literally, 2:10)
.....it's like Cate Blanchett's greatest hits condensed to 2 and 1/2 minutes tbh
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Post by stabcaesar on Sept 28, 2022 17:00:59 GMT
That last shot gives me chills. Possible career best performance?
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Sept 28, 2022 18:41:41 GMT
The idea of her being haunted by sound, or being hypersensitive to it, reminds me of Memoria... though here it looks like it might represent her repressed desire or something... (which would be more interesting than the dumbass ending of Memoria at least)
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 28, 2022 19:02:02 GMT
my god, she's an absolute force of nature.
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Post by wilcinema on Sept 28, 2022 20:00:35 GMT
That last shot gives me chills. Possible career best performance? It IS her best performance.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Sept 28, 2022 20:23:53 GMT
Ladies & Gentlmen , 3 Time Academy Award Winner Cate Blanchett !
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Oct 1, 2022 3:19:12 GMT
A little surprised by this, but cool.
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Post by MsMovieStar on Oct 1, 2022 6:36:55 GMT
Oh honeys, Blannie's getting raves in The New Yorker!
"In the hands of a different actress, the portrait might well have fallen apart. “Tár” sans Blanchett is no more conceivable than “Born Yesterday” (1950) without Judy Holliday or “Erin Brockovich” (2000) without Julia Roberts. Nobody else would fit the frame. We have seen Blanchett, in previous roles, being flaky, noble, or mean, but the profusion of moods and motivations that is demanded of her here is something else. The part of Lydia is scored for hero, villain, mother, dictator, and fuckup, and Blanchett responds with perfect pitch. Her eyes are like spies, missing nothing, and her smile is a charmer’s knife. As the conductor is to the Berlin Philharmonic, so the actress is to the audience in the cinema; neither makes the grave mistake of wishing merely to be liked."
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 3, 2022 10:59:03 GMT
She speaks!
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Post by futuretrunks on Oct 4, 2022 3:12:12 GMT
Oh honeys, Blannie's getting raves in The New Yorker! "In the hands of a different actress, the portrait might well have fallen apart. “Tár” sans Blanchett is no more conceivable than “Born Yesterday” (1950) without Judy Holliday or “Erin Brockovich” (2000) without Julia Roberts. Nobody else would fit the frame. We have seen Blanchett, in previous roles, being flaky, noble, or mean, but the profusion of moods and motivations that is demanded of her here is something else. The part of Lydia is scored for hero, villain, mother, dictator, and fuckup, and Blanchett responds with perfect pitch. Her eyes are like spies, missing nothing, and her smile is a charmer’s knife. As the conductor is to the Berlin Philharmonic, so the actress is to the audience in the cinema; neither makes the grave mistake of wishing merely to be liked."Can these people stop? I heard enough when "top critics" were comparing her turn in Cinderella to Heath in The Dark Knight. Blanchett is so fundamentally artificial in her approach to acting that this hyperbole, trotted out every 5 years or so, is just sickening. You don't understand acting if you think Blanchett's ham is respectable, much less praiseworthy.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Oct 4, 2022 6:18:09 GMT
"Bonus: a feast for classical music nerds."
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