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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 23, 2021 9:14:34 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 23, 2021 10:58:11 GMT
I voted "something else" because to me it's sort of middle brow wealthy class-porn with one of the few times Nicole Kidman has been good (not "great" - Kidman Lunatics  ) in recent years. I mean relative to her sex highlight reel - sex on washing machine (The Paperboy), indifferent handjob to a scuzzy invalid (Destroyer) and wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many others to mention - her violent sex against a wall is her true (but less convincing) Remy Lacroix moment........ In a lot of ways this role ruined her for me - awaiting her comeback in The Northman thanx - where she was leading up to this, then delivered EXACTLY this ...........and has re-done it repeatedly, excruciatingly, without nuance or deftness.........and yet MAR continues to think she's a "GOAT"......she most certainly is fncking not. On the other hand I could say the same thing about Laura Dern too in a less critical and less sex referencing way couldn't I? |
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 23, 2021 12:13:05 GMT
I voted "something else" because to me it's sort of middle brow wealthy class-porn with one of the few times Nicole Kidman has been good (not "great" - Kidman Lunatics ) in recent years. I mean relative to her sex highlight reel - sex on washing machine (The Paperboy), indifferent handjob to a scuzzy invalid (Destroyer) and wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many others to mention - her violent sex against a wall is her true (but less convincing) Remy Lacroix moment........ In a lot of ways this role ruined her for me - awaiting her comeback in The Northman thanx - where she was leading up to this, then delivered EXACTLY this ...........and has re-done it repeatedly, excruciatingly, without nuance or deftness.........and yet MAR continues to think she's a "GOAT"......she most certainly is fncking not. On the other hand I could say the same thing about Laura Dern too in a less critical and less sex referencing way couldn't I? Well you're right. She's not been good in the 2010s. Rabbit Hole was her last great work. I'm surprised her residue is still this strong given what I'm assuming most of the love leftover is from the early 00s. Pacinoyes with a textbook shade tho, lol. I don't get your Kidman bias dude. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 23, 2021 12:25:14 GMT
I voted "something else" because to me it's sort of middle brow wealthy class-porn with one of the few times Nicole Kidman has been good (not "great" - Kidman Lunatics ) in recent years. I mean relative to her sex highlight reel - sex on washing machine (The Paperboy), indifferent handjob to a scuzzy invalid (Destroyer) and wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many others to mention - her violent sex against a wall is her true (but less convincing) Remy Lacroix moment........ In a lot of ways this role ruined her for me - awaiting her comeback in The Northman thanx - where she was leading up to this, then delivered EXACTLY this ...........and has re-done it repeatedly, excruciatingly, without nuance or deftness.........and yet MAR continues to think she's a "GOAT"......she most certainly is fncking not. On the other hand I could say the same thing about Laura Dern too in a less critical and less sex referencing way couldn't I? Well you're right. She's not been good in the 2010s. Rabbit Hole was her last great work. I'm surprised her residue is still this strong given what I'm assuming most of the love leftover is from the early 00s. Pacinoyes with a textbook shade tho, lol. I don't get your Kidman bias dude. Well just calling them the way I see 'em.......I think she's among best of her generation level but this board placed her 8th all time so that's what I mean........ in a world that included Huppert, Streep, Redgrave, Mirren, Blanchett, Ullman, Rowlands, Bergman, Hepburn, Fonda, Page, McDormand, Adjani, Magnani.........oh look that's a lot more than 8 off the top of my head. It's not bias...........it's more like............arithmetic.  |
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Post by Christ_Ian_Bale on Mar 23, 2021 12:27:10 GMT
Season 1, I'd have said Reese or the setting. After season 2, it's 100% Dern.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 23, 2021 12:35:59 GMT
Well you're right. She's not been good in the 2010s. Rabbit Hole was her last great work. I'm surprised her residue is still this strong given what I'm assuming most of the love leftover is from the early 00s. Pacinoyes with a textbook shade tho, lol. I don't get your Kidman bias dude. Well just calling them the way I see 'em.......I think she's a best of her generation level but this board placed her 8th all time so that's what I mean........ in a world that included Huppert, Streep, Redgrave, Mirren, Blanchett, Ullman, Rowlands, Bergman, Hepburn, Fonda, Page, McDormand, Adjani, Magnani.........oh look that's a lot more than 8 off the top of my head. It's not bias...........it's more like............arithmetic. Well if you put it like that.... against those people? Yeah she's a lightweight. Tho I'd take her over McDormand with ease. Would take her over Fonda, but not by a landslide. And I believe over Magnani too based on the movies I've seen from her which is not as much. She's not near Huppert, Bergman, Mirren or Redgrave. Rowlands, Page, Adjani, and Hepburn....not that I'm the foremost expert on them, but they all have done some great work that feels stronger so I'll say probably not. I think she's somewhat equal to Blanchett and Streep tho, but I think Streep's and Blanchett's best works beats Kidman's best. Blanchett was fairly useless from 2003-2012. We forget those 10 years... lol, but it was worse than any period with Kidman. And Streep after 2002.... omg, less said about the latter half of her career the better. |
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 23, 2021 13:07:35 GMT
I voted "something else" because to me it's sort of middle brow wealthy class-porn with one of the few times Nicole Kidman has been good (not "great" - Kidman Lunatics ) in recent years. I mean relative to her sex highlight reel - sex on washing machine (The Paperboy), indifferent handjob to a scuzzy invalid (Destroyer) and wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many others to mention - her violent sex against a wall is her true (but less convincing) Remy Lacroix moment........ In a lot of ways this role ruined her for me - awaiting her comeback in The Northman thanx - where she was leading up to this, then delivered EXACTLY this ...........and has re-done it repeatedly, excruciatingly, without nuance or deftness.........and yet MAR continues to think she's a "GOAT"......she most certainly is fncking not. On the other hand I could say the same thing about Laura Dern too in a less critical and less sex referencing way couldn't I? With all due respect, you're a weird fucking guy. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 23, 2021 13:24:59 GMT
I mean relative to her sex highlight reel - sex on washing machine (The Paperboy), indifferent handjob to a scuzzy invalid (Destroyer) and wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many others to mention - her violent sex against a wall is her true (but less convincing) Remy Lacroix moment........ With all due respect, you're a weird fucking guy.  because I listen to more bands than just the Arctic Monkeys ya mean? Was my porn star reference too obscure - I mean - I know you're a Riley Reid fan and that would fit (no pun) too ......not so weird really.........I mean I'm not the actress taking those roles ........I'm just the heterosexual male who noticed it ..............but in general yes and thank you for the compliment God forbid I'd be basic ....... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 13:26:41 GMT
Definitely Monterey... Stunning.  |
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Post by dadsburgers on Mar 23, 2021 13:33:59 GMT
I think she's somewhat equal to Blanchett and Streep tho, but I think Streep's and Blanchett's best works beats Kidman's best. Blanchett was fairly useless from 2003-2012. We forget those 10 years... lol, but it was worse than any period with Kidman. And Streep after 2002.... omg, less said about the latter half of her career the better. I won't stand for this Notes on a Scandal erasure |
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Post by thomasjerome on Mar 23, 2021 13:40:45 GMT
Nicole slapping Meryl.
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 23, 2021 14:05:44 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 23, 2021 15:02:37 GMT
I voted "something else" because to me it's sort of middle brow wealthy class-porn with one of the few times Nicole Kidman has been good (not "great" - Kidman Lunatics ) in recent years. I mean relative to her sex highlight reel - sex on washing machine (The Paperboy), indifferent handjob to a scuzzy invalid (Destroyer) and wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many others to mention - her violent sex against a wall is her true (but less convincing) Remy Lacroix moment........ In a lot of ways this role ruined her for me - awaiting her comeback in The Northman thanx - where she was leading up to this, then delivered EXACTLY this ...........and has re-done it repeatedly, excruciatingly, without nuance or deftness.........and yet MAR continues to think she's a "GOAT"......she most certainly is fncking not. On the other hand I could say the same thing about Laura Dern too in a less critical and less sex referencing way couldn't I? Well you're right. She's not been good in the 2010s. Rabbit Hole was her last great work. I'm surprised her residue is still this strong given what I'm assuming most of the love leftover is from the early 00s. Pacinoyes with a textbook shade tho, lol. I don't get your Kidman bias dude. Lol! He never used to give a flying fuck about Kidman till he realised she was my favorite actress, and the constant carping about my favorite actor Denzel was beginning to look suspect to people who weren't even big Denzel fans. So he needed a new target. So in some ways, it's personal. because of our run-ins over the years. He has extra venom for her now because I rate her. Now anytime he gets the opportunity, he'll go into some tirade against Kidman, mostly out of spite. Shocked he hasn't tagged MAR's biggest anti-Kidman poster Ms Moviestar for a big bitching session, which is what he tends to do when he needs extra support for that stuff . Someone already put it succinctly...weird guy. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 23, 2021 16:53:47 GMT
Always love to get those Denzel Washington references from out of left field in a Nicole Kidman thread - I guess every superhero needs his theme music and I am that superhero, huh? |
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Post by speeders on Mar 23, 2021 16:54:34 GMT
Nicole and a far superior book.
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because I listen to more bands than just the Arctic Monkeys ya mean? Was my porn star reference too obscure - I mean - I know you're a Riley Reid fan and that would fit (no pun) too ......not so weird really.........I mean I'm not the actress taking those roles ........I'm just the heterosexual male who noticed it ..............but in general yes and thank you for the compliment 
