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Post by flasuss on Mar 9, 2021 16:58:23 GMT
Apart from Nomadland establishing itself even more as a frontrunner, I don't think those mean anything for the Oscars.
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Post by mrimpossible on Mar 9, 2021 16:59:55 GMT
Apart from Nomadland establishing itself even more as a frontrunner, I don't think those mean anything for the Oscars. Well voting ends tomorrow so they don't even have enough time to have much of any influence in terms of nominations.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 17:00:04 GMT
Apart from Nomadland establishing itself even more as a frontrunner, I don't think those mean anything for the Oscars. Agree totally. My predictions in all of the Acting categories remain unchanged.
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Post by stephen on Mar 9, 2021 17:00:54 GMT
Apart from Nomadland establishing itself even more as a frontrunner, I don't think those mean anything for the Oscars. It does and it doesn't. It gives BAFTA a lot of leeway in being able to reward things that might otherwise get blanked in favor of legitimacy at Oscar prognostication, but say Bakalova or Youn win Supporting Actress. All of a sudden, they have a huge precursor to their name in a field that has no real consensus.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 9, 2021 17:02:56 GMT
Apart from Nomadland establishing itself even more as a frontrunner, I don't think those mean anything for the Oscars. Agree totally. My predictions in all of the Acting categories remain unchanged. Specially considering the Best Movie category, that isn't jury selected, picked both Promising Young Woman and Trial of the Chicago 7, so Mulligan and Cohen are very much safe.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 9, 2021 17:04:46 GMT
I mean, this is all fine and it is indeed nice to see a different list of nominees from an awards body as huge as this, but at the end of the day this list will always come with an asterisk because it's not really the pick of the organization. Who cares if it’s the pick of the whole organisation though? Surely the whole point of these kinds of things is to promote the movies, and they just promoted a whole bunch of ones that nobody would have watched otherwise. Hell, I just added 5 movies to my Netflix list as soon as they were done! That’s far more important and meaningful than finding out who the consensus picks of a massive group of people who more often than not probably didn’t even watch half the movies. Again, I agree with this. They're official BAFTA nominees, no matter the process. Nobody's ever taking that title away from them. And it's cool! More exposure is also cool. It's cool dammit! It's just that if one stops to think about the process itself though (if one is so inclined), the overall impression about the uniqueness of the list is bound to lessen, I think. I'm only talking about the perception of the list, nothing else. That's why I initially said that I wasn't as enthusiastic about it in terms of my own reaction - the amazement would've happened if this was something that the entire group picked. That would've been an event. This is just a bunch of nice jury picks. I keep babbling on about the perception because I'm seeing tooooons of reactions by people that are either utterly baffled by the snubs or amazed by how different the nominees are. And they don't know about the new system and think that it's just something that happened on its own. I'll say it again - I don't have an issue with BAFTA changing the system. What they could've done though is maybe talk about these changes a bit more, be more vocal about them so that people would understand them. Not even understand - just know about them.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 9, 2021 17:07:51 GMT
The worst part about the actual nominations is that the Tom Hanks battleship videogame was nominated for Best Visual Effects
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Post by JangoB on Mar 9, 2021 17:10:13 GMT
And another thing - the fact that "The Mauritanian" and "The Father" got into Best Picture here is a good sign for their Oscar chances. It's a bit of a mental gymnastics thing but "The Mauritanian" getting in BP here seems like a good Oscar nomination sign for Jodie Foster to me. Even if the jury snubbed her.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 17:11:57 GMT
The worst part about the actual nominations is that the Tom Hanks battleship videogame was nominated for Best Visual Effects What about the fuckin remake of Rebecca for Production Design? Seriously, as you've been saying, the non-jury categories really show that BAFTA is its same old dry, crusty self.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Mar 9, 2021 17:12:21 GMT
The repercussions of this is scary though..this BAFTA jury system might fuck around next year and accidentally nominate Denzel Washington for Best Actor.
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Post by filmnoir on Mar 9, 2021 17:24:44 GMT
Apart from Nomadland establishing itself even more as a frontrunner, I don't think those mean anything for the Oscars. It also establishes that Chadwick Boseman and Daniel Kuluuya are even more front runners. And that Actress and Supporting Actress are even more in flux. First the Globes, now BAFTA.
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Post by bob-coppola on Mar 9, 2021 17:39:41 GMT
The thing about Mulligan’s chances is that, even thought PYW is surprisingly embraced by industry and having LAFCA/NBR under her belt, she still feels like an underdog, and everyone loves an underdog. Davis is a threat at SAG, but I think she, like Seyfried, was a phantom frontrunner all along. She’s won there before and, if she doesn’t have Oscar buzz, they’ll go for Mulligan.
SAG has become the ultimate precursor this season. Whoever gets it (McDormand is also a good bet, and who knows even Kirby) will have the upper-hand.
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Post by franklin on Mar 9, 2021 17:40:45 GMT
I genuinely believe that the BAFTA after trying to predict last year the Oscar race by picking 1917 based on the Guilds wins, and after seeing the debacle of the bland gimmick of the moment in any major category at the Oscars, they said "You know, what? Fuck it, we're gonna vote for what we actually like and want to promote instead of trying to predict the Oscar race with bland movies we don't actually love".
And i hugely applaud their bold choice. I hope they continue like this and it becomes the norm.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 9, 2021 17:41:14 GMT
The repercussions of this is scary though..this BAFTA jury system might fuck around next year and accidentally nominate Denzel Washington for Best Actor. He still has to make the initial long list first...and that’s voted on by all members.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Mar 9, 2021 17:42:32 GMT
Apart from Nomadland establishing itself even more as a frontrunner, I don't think those mean anything for the Oscars. It also establishes that Chadwick Boseman and Daniel Kuluuya are even more front runners. And that Actress and Supporting Actress are even more in flux. First the Globes, now BAFTA. I don't think we can make any assumptions about the acting nominees. The actual nominees were chosen by 12 people so they won't translate to Oscar voting.
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Post by TerryMontana on Mar 9, 2021 17:44:11 GMT
Very bad news for Mulligan and Colman...
Didn't see that happening.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Mar 9, 2021 17:45:02 GMT
The repercussions of this is scary though..this BAFTA jury system might fuck around next year and accidentally nominate Denzel Washington for Best Actor. He still has to make the initial long list first...and that’s voted on by all members. Christ...Foiled Again!
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 9, 2021 17:48:40 GMT
The repercussions of this is scary though..this BAFTA jury system might fuck around next year and accidentally nominate Denzel Washington for Best Actor. He still has to make the initial long list first...and that’s voted on by all members. Nope. Acting longlist is now voted on by the Acting Branch only (where it used to be all members). The acting branch will select 12. The longlist jury will then select 3 from the next 10 voted on by the acting branch, to determine a longlist of 15. It's pretty fullproof. Only actors nominating now (at longlist stage), and the longlist jury get 3 wildcards
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 9, 2021 17:49:02 GMT
He still has to make the initial long list first...and that’s voted on by all members. Christ...Foiled Again! See my post above.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Mar 9, 2021 17:51:55 GMT
Christ...Foiled Again! See my post above. Oooh..There's hope!
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Post by stephen on Mar 9, 2021 17:52:18 GMT
He still has to make the initial long list first...and that’s voted on by all members. Nope. Acting longlist is now voted on by the Acting Branch only (where it used to be all members). The acting branch will select 12. The longlist jury will then select 3 from the next 10 voted on by the acting branch, to determine a longlist of 15. It's pretty fullproof. Only actors nominating now, and the longlist jury get 3 wildcards Which means if he does miss, then it's pretty well proof in the pudding they actively have it out for him.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 9, 2021 17:57:39 GMT
Nope. Acting longlist is now voted on by the Acting Branch only (where it used to be all members). The acting branch will select 12. The longlist jury will then select 3 from the next 10 voted on by the acting branch, to determine a longlist of 15. It's pretty fullproof. Only actors nominating now, and the longlist jury get 3 wildcards Which means if he does miss, then it's pretty well proof in the pudding they actively have it out for him. Sure, but this system is pretty much designed for him to be nominated, since Actors adore him. First major, nominatable performance he gives, I imagine he's probably getting nodded, if the system remains the same. It's an embarrassing stain that this organisation wants rid of. Then again, they are now at the point where they are willing to ignore their own countrywomen who are Oscar frontrunners ( Mulligan and to a lesser extent Colman), so who the fuck knows how things will go. It seems they are genuinely just picking what they they like most now.
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Post by stephen on Mar 9, 2021 18:31:56 GMT
Which means if he does miss, then it's pretty well proof in the pudding they actively have it out for him. Sure, but this system is pretty much designed for him to be nominated, since Actors adore him. First major, nominatable performance he gives, I imagine he's probably getting nodded, if the system remains the same. It's an embarrassing stain that this organisation wants rid of. Then again, they are now at the point where they are willing to ignore their own countrywomen who are Oscar frontrunners (Mulligan and to a lesser extent Colman), so who the fuck knows how things will go. It seems they are genuinely just picking what they they like most now.Which is how it should be.
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Post by mrimpossible on Mar 9, 2021 18:33:49 GMT
Which means if he does miss, then it's pretty well proof in the pudding they actively have it out for him. Sure, but this system is pretty much designed for him to be nominated, since Actors adore him. First major, nominatable performance he gives, I imagine he's probably getting nodded, if the system remains the same. It's an embarrassing stain that this organisation wants rid of. Then again, they are now at the point where they are willing to ignore their own countrywomen who are Oscar frontrunners ( Mulligan and to a lesser extent Colman), so who the fuck knows how things will go. It seems they are genuinely just picking what they they like most now. If they genuinely picked who they liked the most that would mean all members would vote for the nominees. That's not the case though. It's just a jury of 7-12 people.
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Post by mrimpossible on Mar 9, 2021 18:34:25 GMT
Sure, but this system is pretty much designed for him to be nominated, since Actors adore him. First major, nominatable performance he gives, I imagine he's probably getting nodded, if the system remains the same. It's an embarrassing stain that this organisation wants rid of. Then again, they are now at the point where they are willing to ignore their own countrywomen who are Oscar frontrunners (Mulligan and to a lesser extent Colman), so who the fuck knows how things will go. It seems they are genuinely just picking what they they like most now.Which is how it should be. But that's not what it is. 7-12 jury members voted for the nominees. Not the BAFTA as a whole.
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