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Post by countjohn on Mar 1, 2021 7:12:58 GMT
All in all you have to say this was a good night for Nomadland with it taking BP and director, plus PYW getting shutout, which a lot of people were viewing as BP competition. The upset in actress means there's not as much enthusiasm for Mulligan in actress as many people thought more than anything else. The Foster win is what is the big wild card. Does anyone think she actually has a shot? We've all been talking about how weak supporting actress is this year so who knows what could happen.
Solid night for Chicago 7 as well taking screenplay and sup. actor. You might have to view that as the dark horse behind Nomadland at this point.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 1, 2021 7:14:58 GMT
Solid night for Chicago 7 as well taking screenplay and sup. actor. You might have to view that as the dark horse behind Nomadland at this point. Kaluuya won supporting actor
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 1, 2021 7:33:00 GMT
All in all you have to say this was a good night for Nomadland with it taking BP and director, plus PYW getting shutout, which a lot of people were viewing as BP competition. The upset in actress means there's not as much enthusiasm for Mulligan in actress as many people thought more than anything else. The Foster win is what is the big wild card. Does anyone think she actually has a shot? We've all been talking about how weak supporting actress is this year so who knows what could happen. Solid night for Chicago 7 as well taking screenplay and sup. actor. You might have to view that as the dark horse behind Nomadland at this point. It's always been Nomadland vs Trial, Promising Young Woman was just wishful thinking.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 1, 2021 7:56:39 GMT
Solid night for Chicago 7 as well taking screenplay and sup. actor. You might have to view that as the dark horse behind Nomadland at this point. Kaluuya won supporting actor Oops, just read a list of winners afterward and I guess I read it wrong.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 1, 2021 8:33:19 GMT
I could see TC7 pulling an Argo and winning Picture, Screenplay, and Editing while possibly being snubbed in Director.... but I can also see a scenario where PYW wins screenplay like Get Out did, and in that case it would seem weird for TC7 to only win BP and Editing (Spotlight only won 2 Oscars, but it at least nabbed screenplay). Still, until we get the PGA results, Iād feel more comfortable predicting that to happen over Nomadland for BP at this point.
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Post by finniussnrub on Mar 1, 2021 11:46:40 GMT
I am now very interested in The Mauritanian. Maybe Jodie actually is amazing in it, itās just that no oneās seen it yet. I've seen it, she's fine. Very standard "Crusading lawyer" performance.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 1, 2021 12:07:57 GMT
As usual, GG were a lot of sound and fury meaning nothing. I doubt any of the actress winners even get nominated (oh, and no way in hell Day wins without the race controversy), and while I always thought Nomadland was the favorite, I don't think that it winning matters any more than Bohemian Rapsody winning or Parasite only getting FLP does. I put "I Care A lot" on my watch list. I didn't know hottie Chris Messina was in this. Don't bother, it's crap.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 1, 2021 13:03:19 GMT
A few things:
- Very happy for Kaluuya and he even got his own Forrest Gump moment!
- The Zoom-based telecast was...peculiar, and certainly led to some awkward moments which were worth it. Pacino seemingly asleep was hilarious, Don Cheadle can go fuck himself for giving Sudeikis the wrap-up gesture (can't he see the dude is depressed??? Way the take the moment away from him), Fincher taking shots was very sweet.
- I think we all secretly realize that Jodie Foster won because all the votes automatically switched to her when her doggo popped up on the screen. So freaking cute. Anyway, fun win (because of its surprise factor) which clarifies nothing about the Supporting Actress race (not that its the Globes' job to clarify stuff) and keeps it more fun.
- I enjoyed the surprise factor of the three female wins: the Globes' love for Pike finally reached its sweet climax, Foster returned to the awards table and Andra Day became the Cinderella story of the night. Statistically it's almost impossible for Day and Foster not to get Oscar nominations now - the Actress Drama winners ALWAYS get nominated and the last time a Supporting Actress winner was snubbed was Katharine Ross in 1976, if I'm not mistaken. I know that statistics are meant to be broken but that at least makes their chances stronger. The most important thing about these wins is visibility. Oscar voters who might've been on the fence about watching "Billie Holiday" or "The Mauritanian" will now have their curiosity reignited. That's the main thing about the Globes - people may foolishly dismiss them as irrelevant and stupid but that's just not how it all works. Yes, the organization itself deserves mocking for its corruption BUT no matter what you think of them, these are still the second most important awards in Hollywood which everybody wants to win. Stars flock to this show because they know how important it is for the visibility of their movies and their further award chances. Even those who try to stay woke on the internet by posting the Time's Up Globes bullshit STILL happily show up as presenters and nominees because they know they need it. All these 'Oh, the Globes once again show how irrelevant they are' comments are ridiculous to me. It's the opposite - they're one of the forming structures of the awards season. They're among the ones to decide what's relevant as far as awards season goes. If Jodie Foster wins, it doesn't mean that the Globes are irrelevant. On the contrary, it gives more relevance to her performance in the awards season. It's as simple as that.
- Weird how Borat won 2 Globes but lost for the most acclaimed thing about it. Same about Promising Young Woman - weird to nominate it for 4 main ones and then not even give Mulligan the win. But hey, that's what surprises are for.
- The Nomadland wins prove that it's a movie with a good viewer-reaching ability. It will go all the way.
- I understand why the sketches were there but man...they just didn't work.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 1, 2021 13:03:52 GMT
This was the best, I laughed so hard
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Post by flasuss on Mar 1, 2021 13:56:14 GMT
Just a few years ago, Aaron Taylor Johnson won supporting actor and wasn't even nominated. Crash won BP without even being nominated at the Globes in a time where they were more relevant, and Ron Howard won best director without a GG nom a few years before that as well. These stats matter less and less every year, specially in a crazy year like this. . The GG usually predicts the winners because they usually pick the clear frontunners or people who are strong contenders. When they try to make a contender out of nowhere or even pick a favorite in a race where one isn't clear, they more often than not fail- think Jim Carrey for The Truman Show (not even nominated), the aforementioned ATJ, Natalie Portman and Clive Owen for Closer (who ended up missing SAG), etc. You can't say that Day and Foster's wins are proof they are frontunners for a nomination or win due to statistics because they never picked someone so out of left field. Also, Shirley Maclaine won best actress in 1988 (in a three way time) and still couldn't make it, and she was a past winner and a legend.
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Post by stephen on Mar 1, 2021 14:02:04 GMT
I woke up thinking last night was a weird fever dream, but nope, it all happened and we all got to see it happen in real time.
SAGs, I'm gonna need y'all to be real messy this year. Leto and Zengel for Supporting!
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Post by JangoB on Mar 1, 2021 15:40:27 GMT
Just a few years ago, Aaron Taylor Johnson won supporting actor and wasn't even nominated. Yes, that was an exception to the rule. Hence why I specifically wrote that statistics are meant to be broken. Ron Howard was nominated for Directing at the Golden Globes for "A Beautiful Mind". Not sure what the "Crash" mention is supposed to mean because nowhere in my post did I talk about the correlation between a GG win and an Oscar win. My point was about the correlation between a GG win and an Oscar nomination. And I'm still not sure what makes you say that the Globes were more relevant then. They're as relevant to the awards season as ever. Once again, stats are meant to be broken, as I wrote myself. And yet it's foolish to outright dismiss them. They still exist and are worth noting. When they're broken, it's an exception and a rarity, not an everyday occurence. I never said they were frontrunners for nominations or wins. I said that their Globe wins certainly are a good push for their chances at getting Oscar nominated, and if they were not nominated that'd be unusual situation because winners in their respective categories overwhelmingly do get nominated. I never wrote any hyperbolic stuff about them being at the front of the field due to these wins. It seems really weird to me to look at these wins and just shrug them off as some stupid thing that nobody will notice. They're bound to have at least some effect, even if its not too significant.
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Post by wilcinema on Mar 1, 2021 16:01:44 GMT
We like to think that the Globes are always silly and don't count much, but we know that they can be very influential in some races. We also like to think they're a predictable group but actually they are not. They made some atrocious picks over the years (Bohemian Rhapsody, Malek, Aaron Taylor-Johnson) but they had some very inspired ones too (Isabelle Huppert, Julian Schnabel for The Diving Bell and The Butterfly, Screenplay for Steve Jobs, The Grand Budapest Hotel, even Atonement) even though they amounted to little or nothing.
They are a hateful group for many reasons but the Globes will always be my favorite awards show because of the fun and because it being the first televised show will always be a discovery. Only now the Oscars are starting to be a little bit more unpredictable (Casey Affleck, Olivia Colman, Mark Rylance, Parasite), but they come too late to really change the overall outcome of the race. This year they might be slightly more unpredictable because of the time gap between them and the Globes and the overall mess of the race but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Post by stephen on Mar 1, 2021 16:18:33 GMT
We like to think that the Globes are always silly and don't count much, but we know that they can be very influential in some races. We also like to think they're a predictable group but actually they are not. They made some atrocious picks over the years ( Bohemian Rhapsody, Malek, Aaron Taylor-Johnson) but they had some very inspired ones too (Isabelle Huppert, Julian Schnabel for The Diving Bell and The Butterfly, Screenplay for Steve Jobs, The Grand Budapest Hotel, even Atonement) even though they amounted to little or nothing. They are a hateful group for many reasons but the Globes will always be my favorite awards show because of the fun and because it being the first televised show will always be a discovery. Only now the Oscars are starting to be a little bit more unpredictable (Casey Affleck, Olivia Colman, Mark Rylance, Parasite), but they come too late to really change the overall outcome of the race. This year they might be slightly more unpredictable because of the time gap between them and the Globes and the overall mess of the race but I'm not getting my hopes up. I don't know if I'd say they are influential so much as that they are a good bellwether for what potentially has popular support. That's why Nomadland winning the top prize is such a big deal, because it shows that it has muscle within a populist voting group like the HFPA. Yeah, some of their individual choices might be naff, but like any awards body, they have their tastes.
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Post by filmnoir on Mar 1, 2021 17:02:33 GMT
Carey Mulligan should have been an easy win. It just made Best Actress more competitive. It will be interesting to see what happens at SAG. There are nominees who are more front-line with the union and also have the TV voters.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Mar 2, 2021 11:13:08 GMT
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Post by wilcinema on Mar 2, 2021 11:17:11 GMT
Nah, Glenn is not petty.
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 2, 2021 12:24:21 GMT
Who tf is Jody?
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Post by stephen on Mar 2, 2021 12:30:08 GMT
I dunno, I like the idea of Glenn Close's version of revenge against those that beat her is that she deliberately misspells their names: Jessica Lang, Lynda Hunt, Peggy Asscroft, Share, Jody Foster, Merrill Streep and Olivia Coleman.
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Post by Allenism on Mar 2, 2021 17:50:25 GMT
Congrats Jody Forrester
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 3, 2021 9:52:51 GMT
I'd be down for this.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 3, 2021 21:45:40 GMT
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 4, 2021 2:55:31 GMT
Just finished watching I Care a Lot, and whilst Pike was great, how the fuck was that a comedy???
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 4, 2021 3:01:28 GMT
Tina Fey and Amy Poehler were painfully unfunny and dull. The whole show was a total cringefest, the random af winners notwithstanding. They needed Ricky Gervais to roast the fuck out of these shitheads to keep people interested. I can see the rating for the Oscars being terrible as well. People are sick of privileged celebrities and their hypocrisy.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 4, 2021 11:29:03 GMT
Just finished watching I Care a Lot, and whilst Pike was great, how the fuck was that a comedy??? It was a comedy, just a bad one.
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