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Post by countjohn on Feb 10, 2021 19:41:03 GMT
Didn't see anything about this on here. All the big sites are reporting this now. I'll just link directly to the tweets- To sum up when an actress on Buffy got pregnant he pressured her to get an abortion, accused her of "sabotaging the show", made fun of her for being "fat" in public in front of the whole crew, refused to shorten her work hours when her doctor recommended it, and she believes she was fired from the show in retaliation. Anyway, this isn't as bad as some of the other things we talk about in this section obviously, but I posted the thread because Whedon has always seemed like a dick to me and the "Look at me, I'm such a nerdy, sensitive male feminist" thing felt really fake. |
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Post by jakesully on Feb 10, 2021 19:48:11 GMT
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Yeah I read about this and believe her actually. Also agree with the OP that Whedon is a fake ass cunt and a hack to boot. Fuck him. I feel pretty bad for Ms. Carpenter and wish her well.
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Post by thomasjerome on Feb 10, 2021 20:03:42 GMT
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 10, 2021 20:23:48 GMT
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Post by LaraQ on Feb 10, 2021 20:26:11 GMT
There were rumours for years that he was verbally abusive towards her when they worked together and that he fired her for getting pregnant.All true,clearly.  |
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Feb 10, 2021 21:55:02 GMT
^^^ Yeah I read about this and believe her actually. Also agree with the OP that Whedon is a fake ass cunt and a hack to boot. Fuck him. I feel pretty bad for Ms. Carpenter and wish her well. BUFFY was one of the 10 greatest TV shows of all-time. Hacks don't do "greatest of all-time" caliber work. Then again, you have rancid shit taste, so I wouldn't be surprised if you saw it and didn't get it. That being said, yeah these stories have been circulating in hush tones for years, and I don't find them hard to believe. Another one of the stories was that he forced James Marsters to do a rape scene he was adamantly opposed to performing. Rumors are Sarah Michelle Gellar was firmly in Marsters' side and thought it was aberrant behavior on Joss' part, but I don't think either of them ever went on the record. Wonder if they will now. I will say one more thing: As much of a douche as Whedon might be, it would be a major bummer if this meant the end of the "Buffy" reunions at fan conventions. Truly one of the greatest ensembles ever assembled in TV history, and they seemed to have as much chemistry off-screen as onscreen. 😢 |
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Post by jakesully on Feb 10, 2021 22:35:27 GMT
^^^ Yeah I read about this and believe her actually. Also agree with the OP that Whedon is a fake ass cunt and a hack to boot. Fuck him. I feel pretty bad for Ms. Carpenter and wish her well. BUFFY was one of the 10 greatest TV shows of all-time. Hacks don't do "greatest of all-time" caliber work. Then again, you have rancid shit taste, so I wouldn't be surprised if you saw it and didn't get it. That being said, yeah these stories have been circulating in hush tones for years, and I don't find them hard to believe. Another one of the stories was that he forced James Marsters to do a rape scene he was adamantly opposed to performing. Rumors are Sarah Michelle Gellar was firmly in Marsters' side and thought it was aberrant behavior on Joss' part, but I don't think either of them ever went on the record. Wonder if they will now. I will say one more thing: As much of a douche as Whedon might be, it would be a major bummer if this meant the end of the "Buffy" reunions at fan conventions. Truly one of the greatest ensembles ever assembled in TV history, and they seemed to have as much chemistry off-screen as onscreen. 😢 "Buffy was one of the 10 greatest TV shows all time" bwhahahahaaha thanks for the laugh and you say I have shit taste??? Again bwhahaha thanks for the laugh. Whedon is a flat out creep / scumbag (which is why so many people including his ex wife have been coming forward saying just that) |
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Feb 10, 2021 23:07:00 GMT
BUFFY was one of the 10 greatest TV shows of all-time. Hacks don't do "greatest of all-time" caliber work. Then again, you have rancid shit taste, so I wouldn't be surprised if you saw it and didn't get it. That being said, yeah these stories have been circulating in hush tones for years, and I don't find them hard to believe. Another one of the stories was that he forced James Marsters to do a rape scene he was adamantly opposed to performing. Rumors are Sarah Michelle Gellar was firmly in Marsters' side and thought it was aberrant behavior on Joss' part, but I don't think either of them ever went on the record. Wonder if they will now. I will say one more thing: As much of a douche as Whedon might be, it would be a major bummer if this meant the end of the "Buffy" reunions at fan conventions. Truly one of the greatest ensembles ever assembled in TV history, and they seemed to have as much chemistry off-screen as onscreen. 😢 "Buffy was one of the 10 greatest TV shows all time" bwhahahahaaha thanks for the laugh and you say I have shit taste??? Again bwhahaha thanks for the laugh. Whedon is a flat out creep / scumbag (which is why so many people including his ex wife have been coming forward saying just that) Eat shit and die, douchebag. 🖕 I got plenty of T.V. historians and critics on my side. You have elitist swine in yours. |
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 10, 2021 23:08:53 GMT
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 11, 2021 0:28:23 GMT
The Angel thing was a rum-rum for many years. Charisma left the show before ends.-
So I believe in Charisma, but not for being a woman, or being pregnant, beacause there are lot of clues that sustainted her words.-
Fortunately she is more remember right now for the Expendables films.-
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Post by notacrook on Feb 11, 2021 1:15:13 GMT
Joss Whedon turning out to be an absolute scumbag will forever be deeply disappointing, even painful. Buffy was indeed a great show, and at its best was certainly one of the greats, and I'll forever think that. However, it can't help but be somewhat marred by Whedon's appallingly fake, manipulative 'feminism' that he used as a tool to hide his cruel and malicious attitudes.
I'm devastated for Charisma, and everyone who had to put up with such abuse while still trying to make great art.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Feb 11, 2021 1:25:46 GMT
This one is absolutely depressing. Buffy is one of my favourite shows and I wanted to believe the cast was one big happy family on set, but - and not to pull the "separate art from the artist" thing here - I don't think these allegations should tarnish its reputation because of the amount of people involved, even if Whedon's feminist credentials have been overstated. However, these revelations certainly shine a new light on Angel, particularly on its fourth season, which retrospectively seemed hellbent on humiliating Carpenter through the character of Cordelia because of her real life pregnancy "interfering" with the production.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Feb 11, 2021 1:27:20 GMT
BUFFY was one of the 10 greatest TV shows of all-time. Hacks don't do "greatest of all-time" caliber work. Then again, you have rancid shit taste, so I wouldn't be surprised if you saw it and didn't get it. That being said, yeah these stories have been circulating in hush tones for years, and I don't find them hard to believe. Another one of the stories was that he forced James Marsters to do a rape scene he was adamantly opposed to performing. Rumors are Sarah Michelle Gellar was firmly in Marsters' side and thought it was aberrant behavior on Joss' part, but I don't think either of them ever went on the record. Wonder if they will now. I will say one more thing: As much of a douche as Whedon might be, it would be a major bummer if this meant the end of the "Buffy" reunions at fan conventions. Truly one of the greatest ensembles ever assembled in TV history, and they seemed to have as much chemistry off-screen as onscreen. 😢 "Buffy was one of the 10 greatest TV shows all time" bwhahahahaaha thanks for the laugh and you say I have shit taste??? Again bwhahaha thanks for the laugh. Whedon is a flat out creep / scumbag (which is why so many people including his ex wife have been coming forward saying just that) Whedon is an abusive prick, but that doesn't mean Buffy wasn't amazing |
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Post by jakesully on Feb 11, 2021 1:57:18 GMT
"Buffy was one of the 10 greatest TV shows all time" bwhahahahaaha thanks for the laugh and you say I have shit taste??? Again bwhahaha thanks for the laugh. Whedon is a flat out creep / scumbag (which is why so many people including his ex wife have been coming forward saying just that) Whedon is an abusive prick, but that doesn't mean Buffy wasn't amazing Fair enough and I respect your opinion (Buffy was a good/harmless show) but come on now, TOP 10 of ALL TIME though???  The poster claiming that its a Top 10 show of ALL TIME is reaching big time imo. He was stating his opinion as it were a fact. It has a rating of 8.2/10 on IMDB and I could name off 10 shows just on HBO that have higher ratings. |
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Post by jakesully on Feb 11, 2021 1:58:39 GMT
"Buffy was one of the 10 greatest TV shows all time" bwhahahahaaha thanks for the laugh and you say I have shit taste??? Again bwhahaha thanks for the laugh. Whedon is a flat out creep / scumbag (which is why so many people including his ex wife have been coming forward saying just that) 🖕 I got plenty of T.V. historians and critics on my side. You have elitist swine in yours. JFC unhinged much??? |
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 11, 2021 3:01:48 GMT
"Buffy was one of the 10 greatest TV shows all time" bwhahahahaaha thanks for the laugh and you say I have shit taste??? Again bwhahaha thanks for the laugh. Whedon is a flat out creep / scumbag (which is why so many people including his ex wife have been coming forward saying just that) Whedon is an abusive prick, but that doesn't mean Buffy wasn't amazing Yep 90% of Buffy was Great. But he Also destroyed to Big franchises ,: alien and justice League. One thing I don't like of his Buffy/Ángel series, is that he loves to destroy loving characters. He was cruel with the vampire Child, who ended his promising carrera, and Oz and Cordeliq characters |
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 11, 2021 3:05:29 GMT
Didn't see anything about this on here. All the big sites are reporting this now. I'll just link directly to the tweets- To sum up when an actress on Buffy got pregnant he pressured her to get an abortion, accused her of "sabotaging the show", made fun of her for being "fat" in public in front of the whole crew, refused to shorten her work hours when her doctor recommended it, and she believes she was fired from the show in retaliation. Anyway, this isn't as bad as some of the other things we talk about in this section obviously, but I posted the thread because Whedon has always seemed like a dick to me and the "Look at me, I'm such a nerdy, sensitive male feminist" thing felt really fake. And there is another director/producir/writer and planned parenthood donators. Why several of this male donators are monsters un real life? Of course coincidence. But if he was Prolife he would be slammed by the media like Mel Gibson (and Im not a Gibson supporter as You know Braveheart is one of My Lost hated films) |
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The poster claiming that its a Top 10 show of ALL TIME is reaching big time imo. He was stating his opinion as it were a fact. It has a rating of 8.2/10 on IMDB and I could name off 10 shows just on HBO that have higher ratings. 