Streep’s 4th Oscar

I'm good without her getting a 4th one unless she gives a late career performance that is up their with her best work and really earns it. Unlikely she gets a 4th one in any case, the Academy seems good with Hepburn holding the record and 3 seems to be the cutoff these days. If DDL couldn't get no. 4 for Phantom Thread not sure who could.

As for Streep herself winning a 4th Oscar, let's be honest, if anyone is likely or capable of doing it, it's her. She puts out something strong in a weak year, I can see it happening pretty easily at some point. It may take another 10 years or whatever, but it can happen.

I don't think she'll ever get it.

I don't think industry folks are dying to give it another one to her especially since the third one for playing Margaret Thatcher aged pretty badly.

Like 5 years ago, I would have definitely answered yes to this question, but I’m really unsure now. On one hand they do love her a lot, and I’m sure there are many voters that want to see her at least tie Hepburn’s record. 

On the other hand, she is 71. She looks great, and as far as I know is in good shape, but it’s been almost 10 years since her third win, and I don’t feel like she’s been close at all to getting a fourth win. In fact, I think she might have finished last or second to last for all of her nominations. While she’ll be the person most voters think of when they think of the best actor of all time, I don’t know that’s enough to build up enough momentum for a fourth win if perhaps they feel that all the nominations are enough reward. At least before The Iron Lady, she had Adaptation, The Devil Wears Prada, Doubt, Julie & Julia, and even Mamma Mia as things that helped build up the narrative of her third win. After she won though, she won NBR for The Post, and was finally honored by the Golden Globes, but she hasn’t been nominated since 2017 and likely will miss again this year. So I don’t really feel like there’s as much urgency to award her especially without a Harvey Weinstein type figure who goes all out campaigning for her to win. 

Ultimately I think a lot of it just depends on how long she continues to act. Not to be morbid, but she could be someone like Betty White and have 20 or more years left, in which case I think there’s a good chance she’ll win at least a fourth. In her favor is the fact that all of the best roles for women of a certain age will always go to her first, but even then that doesn’t always mean much like she had tons of buzz even before they started filming for many of her recent films, and even if she did get nominated for some of them, I feel like most of them didn’t live up to all the early hype at all. Even something like The Post which seemed like it had everything on paper kept missing a lot, and even though it did get nominated for Best Picture, I think it was probably last like Streep was in her category. 

I don't see her winning a 4th but it's not impossible. All it takes is a great late career performance in a weak year. It's obvious these guys love Meryl so...


As for Hepburn, the op is right about her 4th win being unjust. She should have gotten one or two more Oscars many years earlier...

bob-coppola - I can guarantee you that the vast majority of people do not see Sophie's Choice as a "subpar" movie... It's on AFI's list of 100 Greatest Films, for goodness' sake.

I'm more interested in seeing building an interest and an overdue narrative from film forums and the industry folks to give Al Pacino his second Oscar.
Streep will be fine, she's been already over nominated and rewarded.

I’ve never seen an Al Pacino movie, but this was beautiful.

I would LOVE for those two to remake On Golden Pond. They would turn a stinky piece of trash into a masterpiece. (Well she would, I can’t speak for Al)

Cruising (1980) is on my watch list :giveup:

While I agree that Streep fatigue is not actually a thing with awards bodies, I don't know if I can see her winning a fourth based purely on sentimentality. People like to dunk on On Golden Pond with the perception that it's this film that runs purely on sentiment in hindsight, but that movie scored ten Oscar nominations and was probably second out of the overall race (yes, I think it pipped Reds to the post in the end). Sentiment might have helped Fonda at the end because he was sick and he died shortly thereafter, but they both were critically adored as well.

I think Streep would need to have a couple of different things align for her fourth. She doesn't necessarily need the film to be good, but I think there needs to be some strength outside of her (even The Iron Lady won an Oscar alongside hers) and I think she'd have to have a Christoph Waltz-type scenario where she's up against prior winners or something. That, or if sentiment is going to come into play, it's gonna have to be like an end-of-career scenario with many more years distant from her third win, where that overdue narrative can work its magic again (it was almost fifteen years between Hepburn's third and fourth win). But yeah, I don't think there's fatigue; if there were, they just would stop nominating her.

I'm sorry... what the hell? Dude, I've been in this forum since day 1, and you wanna call me a troll for pointing out Sophie's Choice is not regarded as a masterpiece (even if I do consider Streep's acting in it top 5 of all time?).

Anyways @tyler (lol ignore that guy), I understand where you're coming from, but I haven't - from my personal observations - seen Sophie's Choice being widely regarded as one of the greatest films in history. I like that film a lot tho, can't say the same about The Iron Lady on the other hand.

Haha dude just ignore him, he's a very obvious troll himself.