Post by wallsofjericho on Sept 24, 2020 21:03:40 GMT
Watched this again and it just gets worse every time I hate to say. It's not bad and there are some genuinely moving scenes but a lot of scenes just take me right out of the film like Lonergan's pointless cameo where the camera cuts to him walking of as if he's some important character as if the audience would actually care. Affleck is still great but comes across really mannered for me sometimes like the long pauses and stares just feel too rehearsed.
Don't feel the need to revisit the film again as well, one viewing was enough. Affleck gives a good performance for what it is, but comparing that to what Denzel did in Fences...Denzel got screwed that year.
I love it myself....I often told the story in the IMDB days that when I saw Fences I turned to my friend and said "no one is going to beat that performance this year" .........then I saw Affleck 5 days later iirc and said....."Except that one".
The film reminds me very much of The Conversation in that it dares the audience to misunderstand it.....The Conversation isn't about a guy who is introverted and insular, it's about a guy who longs not to be that and gets repeatedly burned......Manchester By The Sea isn't about a guy "dead on the inside" it's about a guy who's assaulted by the event constantly, daily....as it's written (very much like a play because that's Lonergan's forte) the Affleck character is having it thrown in his face.......he lives near where it happened, he has fractured relationships with people he knew well then.........periodically he'll hear a baby scream or someone mention the word "mother" which he hears as an echo-y bomb going off......or bump into someone he knew then because he isn't rich enough to flee or able to flee from himself.
It's a movie about sensory overload.....not about being numb on the inside at all.....it's more like a drug addiction movie actually where in his case the suffering is the only thing that keeps him going at all.
One of 2016's very best films......and one of 2016's most complex ones too........
Last Edit: Sept 24, 2020 22:20:58 GMT by pacinoyes
Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Sept 24, 2020 22:18:30 GMT
Masterpiece. I put it in my top 10 of the decade, and Affleck is my favorite BA win of the decade as well. Hedges is no slouch either, and has one of the best moments in the movie (the freezer scene). This feels sort of weird to say because of the type of film it is, but when I first saw it, I felt like I could have kept watching these characters for another couple of hours after the film ended. It has a rhythm to it that feels a lot like real life unfolding... it flows very organically, and doesn't feel calculated in a way where you can identify predetermined "beats." I think it's kind of a miraculously constructed film.
Post by avnermoriarti on Sept 24, 2020 22:59:16 GMT
I think the screenplay is quite good and Affleck gives one of my favourite performances of the decade but apart from that I hate it, I think is terribly directed, it was like Kieslowski on steroids, the orchestral music felt out place with the people we are following, the endless slow-mo, Michelle's hair on the present days looks the work of cgi, some of the acting is awful ( Hedges, Broderick, Mol ) but the lowest point is Lonergan's cameo.
'There's a terror in knowing what the world is about'
Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Sept 25, 2020 2:28:29 GMT
Thought it was fantastic and it’s in my top 3 (if not #1) from 2016 with Affleck my personal win. That being said I haven’t revisited it yet since seeing it in the theater. I will eventually but the subject matter is one that hits me pretty hard emotionally.