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Post by chris3 on Sept 16, 2020 15:48:06 GMT
Holy SHIT that list sucks.
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Post by jimmalone on Sept 17, 2020 12:38:58 GMT
US Weekly Film Critic Mara Reinstein compiled her list of the top 75 movie directors of all-time writing for Parade. Here's her list below: Obviously leans more to modern, recency bias and Western filmmakers. But interesting none the less and something I'm sure will elicit groans and eyerolls..lol parade.com/1048720/maramovies/best-directors/I looked at the top 3 and thought. Yeah, a bit stereotype, but solid. Then I saw 4-7 and thought . Obviously everyone will find flaws in most peoples list. The most dubious thing is certainly the lack of classic directors as well as of foreign directors. Did I miss somebody or is this list really without a single french director?
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Post by jimmalone on Sept 17, 2020 12:53:57 GMT
Generally speaking I'd say on such lists you should not include people, who have made only 1 or 2 movies. I personally include only directors, I've seen at least five works from, in my Top 50 list.
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Post by pessimusreincarnated on Sept 17, 2020 14:13:17 GMT
Why even include Kurosawa if you're gonna rank him that pathetically low? TIM BURTON got a higher position? Lol gtfo.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Sept 17, 2020 14:38:03 GMT
Why even include Kurosawa if you're gonna rank him that pathetically low? TIM BURTON got a higher position? Lol gtfo. If you don't like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, then you can get right the fuck outta here, buddy!
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Post by quetee on Sept 17, 2020 16:42:02 GMT
The ranking makes no sense. It's total clickbait. You can't rate someone 3rd when people steal from him left and right. I'll leave her Woody snub alone cause we all know why she did it. However, there is one interesting snub on here that makes no sense especially if you judge the list collectively.
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Post by quetee on Sept 17, 2020 16:42:52 GMT
Isn't he? lol, no, he's not. LMAO. That sums up all I need to know.
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 17, 2020 17:28:58 GMT
LMAO. That sums up all I need to know. I've seen pictures of the guy and he looked like he's light-skinned black. It can sum up all you want, I really don't care. Some people are racist caricatures, and I don't care to speak with them.
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Post by countjohn on Sept 17, 2020 19:48:00 GMT
I looked at the top 3 and thought. Yeah, a bit stereotype, but solid. Then I saw 4-7 and thought . I don't know that 4-7 are so bad. Cameron and QT are way high but they are both legends so them being so high on someone's lists is not a surprise. Spike's style is not entirely my thing but he has some very big fans, so again not a surprise to see him so high. I wouldn't put PTA quite as high at 7 at this stage (I could see him being that high when he has a complete career) but I don't really mind the placement at all. The problem with the list is that it's full of obvious "diversity" picks for directors who have only made a couple movies or make mediocre genre films, while leaving off great foreign and classic Hollywood directors. If they wanted diversity there are far better woman and non-white directors to pick. One list like this doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but this is emblematic of how real film criticism is dying which could definitely be a real problem going forward. I'm gonna guess the reason most of us checked out directors like Tarkovsky or Bergman in the first place is because we saw them and their movies on critics "best of" lists and were interested in seeing what were perceived as the best movies of all time. If critics lists start becoming so poptimist those movies are going to be gradually forgotten which is then going to have an impact on the kind of films that get made going forward. It already feels like many Hollywood films don't have any influences beyond Spielberg and Star Wars.
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Post by countjohn on Sept 17, 2020 19:50:11 GMT
The ranking makes no sense. It's total clickbait. You can't rate someone 3rd when people steal from him left and right. I'll leave her Woody snub alone cause we all know why she did it. However, there is one interesting snub on here that makes no sense especially if you judge the list collectively. Who is it out of curiosity?
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Post by pupdurcs on Sept 17, 2020 20:09:05 GMT
I looked at the top 3 and thought. Yeah, a bit stereotype, but solid. Then I saw 4-7 and thought . I don't know that 4-7 are so bad. Cameron and QT are way high but they are both legends so them being so high on someone's lists is not a surprise. Spike's style is not entirely my thing but he has some very big fans, so again not a surprise to see him so high. I wouldn't put PTA quite as high at 7 at this stage (I could see him being that high when he has a complete career) but I don't really mind the placement at all. Yeah....to be honest, I feel like her entire top 10 feels Ok, if not outright solid, for a millenial/Generation Z film fan with a heavily western bias . Everyone in the top 10 is a major, iconoclastic filmmaker. It's half classic old guys/undeniable masters and half the most "important" Western directors of the last 30 years. It's those bizarre picks like Nora Ephron in the top 20 that start making the list hard to take seriously.
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Post by jimmalone on Sept 17, 2020 20:29:46 GMT
I looked at the top 3 and thought. Yeah, a bit stereotype, but solid. Then I saw 4-7 and thought . I don't know that 4-7 are so bad. Cameron and QT are way high but they are both legends so them being so high on someone's lists is not a surprise. Spike's style is not entirely my thing but he has some very big fans, so again not a surprise to see him so high. I wouldn't put PTA quite as high at 7 at this stage (I could see him being that high when he has a complete career) but I don't really mind the placement at all. The problem with the list is that it's full of obvious "diversity" picks for directors who have only made a couple movies or make mediocre genre films, while leaving off great foreign and classic Hollywood directors. If they wanted diversity there are far better woman and non-white directors to pick. One list like this doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but this is emblematic of how real film criticism is dying which could definitely be a real problem going forward. I'm gonna guess the reason most of us checked out directors like Tarkovsky or Bergman in the first place is because we saw them and their movies on critics "best of" lists and were interested in seeing what were perceived as the best movies of all time. If critics lists start becoming so poptimist those movies are going to be gradually forgotten which is then going to have an impact on the kind of films that get made going forward. It already feels like many Hollywood films don't have any influences beyond Spielberg and Star Wars. Well said. My reaction to 4-7 is mostly personal opiniated (and mostly towards Cameron, whose films I mostly can't stand and Tarantino whom I find to be overrated as hell). But yeah as I also pointed out, mostly it's the lack of classic directors that's irritating. And I'm usually quite generous in terms of opinions in films, cause in the end much factually is subjective and if somebody dislikes Bergman or Wilder or Truffaut or whoever that's perfectly okay with me and I dislike my fair share of famous directors as well and many of them would not make my top 50 as well. But to put some "hip" (I dislike this word) directors who've made one or two films over 90 percent of them is irritating. And you are totally true about what you say as well. When I talk to friends who are no cineasts, but quite like films, they sometimes haven't even heard of many directors like David Lean (though they have heard of Lawrence of Arabia).
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 17, 2020 21:37:08 GMT
I don't know that 4-7 are so bad. Cameron and QT are way high but they are both legends so them being so high on someone's lists is not a surprise. Spike's style is not entirely my thing but he has some very big fans, so again not a surprise to see him so high. I wouldn't put PTA quite as high at 7 at this stage (I could see him being that high when he has a complete career) but I don't really mind the placement at all. Yeah....to be honest, I feel like her entire top 10 feels Ok, if not outright solid, for a millenial/Generation Z film fan with a heavily western bias . Everyone in the top 10 is a major, iconoclastic filmmaker. It's half classic old guys/undeniable masters and half the most "important" Western directors of the last 30 years. It's those bizarre picks like Nora Ephron in the top 20 that start making the list hard to take seriously. Yeah the Nora Ephron pick is interesting to say the least. I think something like the Top 250 Directors list on the They Shoot Pictures Don't They site would be much more favorable to cinephiles and people on this board. That list is more encompassing of directors globally and has its share of the classic directors as well as the modern filmmakers. It was just interesting to see one of today's film critics list. And she is considered a "Top Critic" on RT and I believe they count her reviews on MC as well, so she's thought of as a major critic today.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Sept 17, 2020 22:41:06 GMT
Yeah....to be honest, I feel like her entire top 10 feels Ok, if not outright solid, for a millenial/Generation Z film fan with a heavily western bias . Everyone in the top 10 is a major, iconoclastic filmmaker. It's half classic old guys/undeniable masters and half the most "important" Western directors of the last 30 years. It's those bizarre picks like Nora Ephron in the top 20 that start making the list hard to take seriously. Yeah the Nora Ephron pick is interesting to say the least. I think something like the Top 250 Directors list on the They Shoot Pictures Don't They site would be much more favorable to cinephiles and people on this board. That list is more encompassing of directors globally and has its share of the classic directors as well as the modern filmmakers. It was just interesting to see one of today's film critics list. And she is considered a "Top Critic" on RT and I believe they count her reviews on MC as well, so she's thought of as a major critic today. They Shoot Pictures is a much better list, and more varied when compared to Reinstein's. It's basically the definite Top Directors List starter pack. Reinstein might be considered a Top RT because she writes for Parade, but her list while quite different comes off as too "try-hard" for my tastes.
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Post by ThisIsNotAnID on Sept 18, 2020 6:35:03 GMT
I feel like posting this list here is rage bait.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 9:08:36 GMT
Filmmakers like Lynch and Ford getting thrown in with some of these choices like Waititi, Aronofsky, fucking Ron Howard etc. is physically painful
Is Bigelow really the best female director they could think of? Has this person seen more than 150 movies?
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 18, 2020 13:42:20 GMT
I feel like posting this list here is rage bait.
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Post by franklin on Sept 20, 2020 16:59:34 GMT
Kubrick in Ninth place is pure heresy, he should be easily number one, him and Tarkovsky.
Plus, why Inarritu is so high??? 14th position over Kurosawa and Fincher????
Trash list.
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Post by quetee on Sept 20, 2020 23:58:45 GMT
The ranking makes no sense. It's total clickbait. You can't rate someone 3rd when people steal from him left and right. I'll leave her Woody snub alone cause we all know why she did it. However, there is one interesting snub on here that makes no sense especially if you judge the list collectively. Who is it out of curiosity? Damien Chazelle
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Post by countjohn on Sept 21, 2020 15:11:32 GMT
Who is it out of curiosity? Damien Chazelle That is true, if you're going to put new directors with just a handful of movies on there he has the strongest resume. But he's not a "diversity" pick.
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Post by quetee on Sept 26, 2020 21:18:23 GMT
That is true, if you're going to put new directors with just a handful of movies on there he has the strongest resume. But he's not a "diversity" pick. Not sure if that's the reason but there is definitely a reason. She rated Whiplash, La La Land and First Man 4/4. No way you have 75 spots and you don't list him. It's a bogus list for clicks.
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Post by futuretrunks on Sept 26, 2020 21:31:26 GMT
Started squinting when I saw Cameron (who I think is great) at #4. Stopped reading when I saw Spike Lee at #5. Not even remotely reasonable. Imagine putting Guillermo Del Toro over David Lynch? What kind of insanity is this list?
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