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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 15, 2020 21:54:26 GMT
US Weekly Film Critic Mara Reinstein compiled her list of the top 75 movie directors of all-time writing for Parade. Here's her list below: Obviously leans more to modern, recency bias and Western filmmakers. But interesting none the less and something I'm sure will elicit groans and eyerolls..lol parade.com/1048720/maramovies/best-directors/ |
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 15, 2020 22:01:59 GMT
.....she must have a had a hard time deciding between Nancy Myers and those white male hacks Kieslowski and Bergman and Tarkovsky and Truffaut.  |
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Post by pupdurcs on Sept 15, 2020 22:17:13 GMT
US Weekly Film Critic Mara Reinstein compiled her list of the top 75 movie directors of all-time writing for Parade. Here's her list below: Obviously leans more to modern, recency bias and Western filmmakers. But interesting none the less and something I'm sure will elicit groans and eyerolls..lol parade.com/1048720/maramovies/best-directors/Even as an understandably Western biased list, it'd be difficult to make a list more designed to raise the hackles of a lot of cinephiles  I'm less bothered by the Western bias than the recency bias. A lot of these are young-ish directors who have promising careers ahead of them ( Peele, Coogler, Waititi etc ) with a lot still to add to their body of work , but it feels a bit ridiculous to have them on a list like this, but leave off people like Billy Wilder or John Huston.But hey, it's her opinion. And there are a lot of solid picks there, to go with the headscratchers. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 15, 2020 22:19:25 GMT
I disagree
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 15, 2020 22:22:08 GMT
Anne Fletcher?? who has "worked with the likes of Katherine Heigl"  In case Mara reads this board, check out Elaine May, Agnieszka Holland, Joan Micklin Silver, Larisa Shepitko, Ida Lupino, Dorothy Arzner, Agnes Varda, etc. And hey, Susan Seidelman didn't make Cookie and She-Devil in the same year just to be ignored! |
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Post by MsMovieStar on Sept 15, 2020 22:25:07 GMT
Oh honey, no Buñuel? :eyeroll: No Cocteau?  No Jodorowsky? No Sion Sono? No Pasolini?  Does she seriously think in 80 years time people will still be watching Andrea Arnold & M. Night Shyamalan? Patty Jenkins (Wonder Woman 2017) Sometimes, the smallness of some peoples opinions makes me want to scream! |
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Post by countjohn on Sept 15, 2020 22:26:58 GMT
Yeah, this list sucks. It feels like it was constructed for "diversity" in a very tokenish way, except for the kind of diversity that most matters, films made outside of Hollywood or America.
Then of course the recency bias is enormous. Peele, DuVernay, Jenkins x2, Coogler, Heller and Gerwig have no business being on there at this stage for instance. No one who's only directed 2-3 movies does unless you're off to a Welles or Nichols type start.
Seriously, you're going to put the aforementioned brand new directors, plus such luminaries as Nancy Meyers and the director of Hot Pursuit and the Guilt Trip, but not Tarkovsky, Bergman, Billy Wilder, Will Wyler, Fellini, Lean, Malick, exc. I know every individual person is not going to be a fan of some of those people, but putting every hot young director who's directed literally a couple movies and leaving a bunch of legends off just makes you look uninformed.
Just observations, I am typing this in a neutral tone of voice in my head.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 15, 2020 22:27:48 GMT
This just looks like a Reddit list if Reddit discovered that women exist.
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Post by JangoB on Sept 15, 2020 22:31:25 GMT
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 15, 2020 22:31:56 GMT
US Weekly Film Critic Mara Reinstein compiled her list of the top 75 movie directors of all-time writing for Parade. Here's her list below: Obviously leans more to modern, recency bias and Western filmmakers. But interesting none the less and something I'm sure will elicit groans and eyerolls..lol parade.com/1048720/maramovies/best-directors/Even as an understandably Western biased list, it'd be difficult to make a list more designed to raise the hackles of a lot of cinephiles I'm less bothered by the Western bias than the recency bias. A lot of these are young-ish directors who have promising careers ahead of them ( Peele, Coogler, Waititi etc ) with a lot still to add to their body of work , but it feels a bit ridiculous to have them on a list like this, but leave off people like Billy Wilder or John Huston.But hey, it's her opinion. And there are a lot of solid picks there, to go with the headscratchers. Eyerolls and Groans..Ava DuVernay at 31 looks legit tho...  |
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 15, 2020 22:34:19 GMT
Yeah, this list sucks. It feels like it was constructed for "diversity" in a very tokenish way, except for the kind of diversity that most matters, films made outside of Hollywood or America. Then of course the recency bias is enormous. Peele, DuVernay, Jenkins x2, Coogler, Heller and Gerwig have no business being on there at this stage for instance. No one who's only directed 2-3 movies does unless you're off to a Welles or Nichols type start. Seriously, you're going to put the aforementioned brand new directors, plus such luminaries as Nancy Meyers and the director of Hot Pursuit and the Guilt Trip, but not Tarkovsky, Bergman, Billy Wilder, Will Wyler, Fellini, Lean, Malick, exc. I know every individual person is not going to be a fan of some of those people, but putting every hot young director who's directed literally a couple movies and leaving a bunch of legends off just makes you look uninformed. Just observations, I am typing this in a neutral tone of voice in my head. No eyeroll CountJohn? |
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Post by pupdurcs on Sept 15, 2020 22:36:04 GMT
Anne Fletcher?? who has "worked with the likes of Katherine Heigl" In case Mara reads this board, check out Elaine May, Agnieszka Holland, Joan Micklin Silver, Larisa Shepitko, Ida Lupino, Dorothy Arzner, Agnes Varda, etc. And hey, Susan Seidelman didn't make Cookie and She-Devil in the same year just to be ignored! I find it pretty incredible that if she was looking to find recent female directors whose body of work might be widely seen as worthy of inclusion onto a list of this nature without massive controversy, that she overlooked Lynne Ramsey. |
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Post by MsMovieStar on Sept 15, 2020 22:40:50 GMT
Anne Fletcher?? who has "worked with the likes of Katherine Heigl" In case Mara reads this board, check out Elaine May, Agnieszka Holland, Joan Micklin Silver, Larisa Shepitko, Ida Lupino, Dorothy Arzner, Agnes Varda, etc. And hey, Susan Seidelman didn't make Cookie and She-Devil in the same year just to be ignored! I find it pretty incredible that if she was looking to find recent female directors whose body of work might be widely seen as worthy of inclusion onto a list of this nature without massive controversy, that she overlooked Lynne Ramsey.Oh honey, or Leni Riefenstahl... however controversial. |
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Post by countjohn on Sept 15, 2020 23:37:35 GMT
Yeah, this list sucks. It feels like it was constructed for "diversity" in a very tokenish way, except for the kind of diversity that most matters, films made outside of Hollywood or America. Then of course the recency bias is enormous. Peele, DuVernay, Jenkins x2, Coogler, Heller and Gerwig have no business being on there at this stage for instance. No one who's only directed 2-3 movies does unless you're off to a Welles or Nichols type start. Seriously, you're going to put the aforementioned brand new directors, plus such luminaries as Nancy Meyers and the director of Hot Pursuit and the Guilt Trip, but not Tarkovsky, Bergman, Billy Wilder, Will Wyler, Fellini, Lean, Malick, exc. I know every individual person is not going to be a fan of some of those people, but putting every hot young director who's directed literally a couple movies and leaving a bunch of legends off just makes you look uninformed. Just observations, I am typing this in a neutral tone of voice in my head. No eyeroll CountJohn? Nah I'm good |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Sept 15, 2020 23:47:25 GMT
As it a list, it's both puzzling and terrible. There are a lot of the typical names you find on these kinds of "greatest directors of all time" lists, but then there are a lot of names that just leave me saying, "wait what?" Anne Fletcher? J.J. Abrams? Rob Reiner? Maybe if he stopped making movies after 1996.
Also it's trying way too hard to be recent. I understand it's all a matter of opinion, but filmmakers like Peele and Coogler have made some good or even arguably great movies, but they've also made too few of them, and are far too young, that they shouldn't even qualify for a "greatest directors of all time" discussion yet.
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Post by stinkybritches on Sept 16, 2020 0:46:31 GMT
US Weekly is primarily a celebrity gossip rag, right? They have a film critic? Lol. Well, this laughable list is certainly reflective of its source then.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 16, 2020 1:10:36 GMT
As it a list, it's both puzzling and terrible. There are a lot of the typical names you find on these kinds of "greatest directors of all time" lists, but then there are a lot of names that just leave me saying, "wait what?" Anne Fletcher? J.J. Abrams? Rob Reiner? Maybe if he stopped making movies after 1996. Also it's trying way too hard to be recent. I understand it's all a matter of opinion, but filmmakers like Peele and Coogler have made some good or even arguably great movies, but they've also made too few of them, and are far too young, that they shouldn't even qualify for a "greatest directors of all time" discussion yet. Yeah man..she does have interesting taste. I understand you want to highlight more women and non-white filmmakers..but Ava DuVernay who I like as a director over Akira Kurosawa and Sergio Leone? Whoo boy! 😬 Shout out to M Night Shymalan coming in at #54. |
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 16, 2020 1:55:24 GMT
A truly diverse list. Just look at all these black and woman directors with two or three movies to their name!  A shame that there are a grand total of five directors who never made a movie in Hollywood. (Almodovar, Leone, Kurosawa, Arnold, Campion) And it is so brave not to include Roman Polanski or Woody Allen. Some of the most insulting pandering I've ever seen in a list. |
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 16, 2020 2:00:22 GMT
And hey, if you're gonna do black directors, actual trailblazers like John Singleton, John Waters and Charles Burnett exist. If you really want to go there, we also have Melvin Van Peebles, although I've never seen one of his films... and don't want to.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 2:42:11 GMT
Pandering: The List
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Post by stinkybritches on Sept 16, 2020 2:59:26 GMT
And hey, if you're gonna do black directors, actual trailblazers like John Singleton, John Waters and Charles Burnett exist. If you really want to go there, we also have Melvin Van Peebles, although I've never seen one of his films... and don't want to. John Waters is black? |
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Post by countjohn on Sept 16, 2020 5:36:50 GMT
As it a list, it's both puzzling and terrible. There are a lot of the typical names you find on these kinds of "greatest directors of all time" lists, but then there are a lot of names that just leave me saying, "wait what?" Anne Fletcher? J.J. Abrams? Rob Reiner? Maybe if he stopped making movies after 1996. Even if you don't like him, Reiner is not such a weird choice. Spinal Tap, Stand by Me, Princess Bride, Misery, and A Few Good Men are all classics. And hey, if you're gonna do black directors, actual trailblazers like John Singleton, John Waters and Charles Burnett exist. If you really want to go there, we also have Melvin Van Peebles, although I've never seen one of his films... and don't want to. I've seen Sweetback and it's basically a well directed porno. Peebles certainly qualifies as a "trailblazer" in terms of independent movies in America, though. |
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 16, 2020 13:59:51 GMT
And hey, if you're gonna do black directors, actual trailblazers like John Singleton, John Waters and Charles Burnett exist. If you really want to go there, we also have Melvin Van Peebles, although I've never seen one of his films... and don't want to. John Waters is black? Isn't he? |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Sept 16, 2020 14:04:05 GMT
As it a list, it's both puzzling and terrible. There are a lot of the typical names you find on these kinds of "greatest directors of all time" lists, but then there are a lot of names that just leave me saying, "wait what?" Anne Fletcher? J.J. Abrams? Rob Reiner? Maybe if he stopped making movies after 1996. Even if you don't like him, Reiner is not such a weird choice. Spinal Tap, Stand by Me, Princess Bride, Misery, and A Few Good Men are all classics. Oh I don't dislike Reiner at all, in fact his run from Spinal Tap to A Few Good Men is one of my favorites, I was more referring to the fact that he's mostly made junk or movies that barely exist post The American President, that he wouldn't be on my personal "greatest directors list". |
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Post by stinkybritches on Sept 16, 2020 15:46:40 GMT
Isn't he? lol, no, he's not. |
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A shame that there are a grand total of five directors who never made a movie in Hollywood. (Almodovar, Leone, Kurosawa, Arnold, Campion)
