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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 30, 2020 10:39:32 GMT
If you are a pacinoyes watcher - and shouldn't you be? - you'll know I often say that of the 3 "main" US artistic awards - Oscars, Tony's, Emmy's are all at a low point in legitimacy right now: The Tony's more since the 80s........ Oscars since somewhere in the 90s ......... and the Emmy's - well a lot but going through a new corruption phase with streaming ~2015...... of those 3 I have argued the Tony's are/were the "fakest" award (which is really saying something). Well not to be outdone the Oscars now doing a total Tony's-like move ........ Henceforth, all agents who are already members will be transferred to the members-at-large branch — members of which do not fall neatly under one of the Academy's 17 other branches, but do still get to vote — and all agents who are invited to become members in the future will automatically join that branch.
www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/film-academy-grants-agents-right-vote-oscars-1300942 |
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Post by morton on Jun 30, 2020 13:17:48 GMT
I don't really like the idea, but it's still better than some of the other ideas that they've done imo, they already have public relations people and executives as voters, so adding agents doesn't seem to out of line with that.
The only thing is that the biased that will likely happen at least with some of the voters especially if one of their clients stands to make a lot of money if he or she wins or is nominated, but unfortunately biased wouldn't just be limited to them. People vote for their friends or against other people or other films all the time even when they haven't seen all the movies, so I don't think this would be a big deal.
Plus people can surprise you with what they like. For instance, I remember Sofia Coppola saying she liked Daddy's Home, I think it wasn't even the first one but the second one too, and other directors like her liking lowbrow movies like that. Or how a couple of years in a row Moonlight and The Shape of Water win, then Green Book wins, and then Parasite wins.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 30, 2020 14:07:11 GMT
The only thing is that the biased that will likely happen at least with some of the voters especially if one of their clients stands to make a lot of money if he or she wins or is nominated, but unfortunately biased wouldn't just be limited to them. People vote for their friends or against other people or other films all the time even when they haven't seen all the movies, so I don't think this would be a big deal. Plus people can surprise you with what they like. For instance, I remember Sofia Coppola saying she liked Daddy's Home, I Yeah gotta disagree here - and this is very Tony-ish in how they have theater professionals removed from the Arts influencing the Arts (which is one of the reason it's the worst award imo)........I mean you're still going to get people who don't see the movies anyway.........and the fact that they already have executives and public relations people voting isn't good either  ........essentially what you will get will be a coalition within the large group that votes in a monolithic fashion- ie based on studio, stars or directors that wield power not necessarily artistry. I mean it's nice that people can surprise you but that will happen less by definition and it happened less when executives and PR people were there too..... One of the great lies on this board is _____________ is so respected in the the "industry" and "among his/her peers"........I'm not sure how anyone can say that in 2020 with a straight face since what the peer to peer "industry" is and what the Academy is comprised of don't correlate. I mean this is a pretty huge deal for BP specifically - I can see people voting in blocks for actors represented by their agents firm. |
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........essentially what you will get will be a coalition within the large group that votes in a monolithic fashion- ie based on studio, stars or directors that wield power not necessarily artistry.