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Post by dadsburgers on Jun 22, 2020 4:24:17 GMT
I also liked JDW in BlacKkKlansmen as well even though I wanted to debate about a week ago on Twitter with some mutuals as to why there wasn’t really anything that nefarious with him missing an Oscar nomination while his white costar made it. Not to say that kind of stuff doesn’t happen, but I think in this specific case it was due to the supporting category being much less competitive that year, and Driver having more prestigious projects under his belt. I figured it’d be a waste of energy though, so I didn’t respond to it. I give BlacKklansman the Best Picture win, but I don't nominate any actors. I do think Driver getting in is over Washington is fair, in part given the competition in each category, but also because I just think Driver is better. His character is more interesting and more likable. This isn't totally fair, but I think one of my biggest issues with Washington is that I don't love the character. A lot of Washington's dialogue with Harrier, I 100% side against him, and being an unlikable good guy is problematic for me (I have the same issue with Gosling in La La Land). Driver was the more established, versatile actor between the two as well. I think he was set up to be the highlight performance from the start.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jun 22, 2020 4:46:58 GMT
I actually think Wahlberg and Washington were quite good and Worthington was passable but to each his own. Not exactly a great movie, but since I already mentioned Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves in this thread, I’ll just say that Worthington was fine for me in Avatar, and I even liked his chemistry with Zoe Saldana. Outside of Avatar though like when I saw him the next year in Clash of the Titans, then I really saw how limited he was as an actor. The old boards had their problems, but I still laugh remembering all the wooden/timber jokes there were in the boards for Clash of the Titans because of Worthington. I also agree about Wahlberg. I haven’t wandered into the “what if Leo was cast in Boogie Nights” thread lately in the Acting Subforum, but I thought Wahlberg was good and his limitations as an actor, at least back then, plus the baggage he brought going from being a “rapper”/model to acting in something like Boogie Nights worked for me because he seemed like his character in that they were both fish out of water. Plus even though he seems to be savvy about his career for the most part, and seems to have business smarts that I wish I had, back in 1997 it wasn’t too hard to believe that Wahlberg was as dumb as Eddie was lol. Although to be fair to Eddie, I guess he was more naive than dumb. I also liked JDW in BlacKkKlansmen as well even though I wanted to debate about a week ago on Twitter with some mutuals as to why there wasn’t really anything that nefarious with him missing an Oscar nomination while his white costar made it. Not to say that kind of stuff doesn’t happen, but I think in this specific case it was due to the supporting category being much less competitive that year, and Driver having more prestigious projects under his belt. I figured it’d be a waste of energy though, so I didn’t respond to it. Worthington can act and has said himself he isn’t happy with his performance by Titans. Check out his work in Somersault. I also think he showed a star power in both Avatar and the terminator movie he was in that was missing severely in the Titans movies.
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Post by wattsnew on Jun 22, 2020 6:09:36 GMT
-Tippi Hedren in The Birds and Marnie -Jack Nicholson - The Shining -Rachel Weisz in The Deep Blue Sea -Katharine Hepburn in Bringing Up Baby -Gloria Swanson in Sunset Boulevard -Marlon Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire -Kate Winslet in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Don’t @ me.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jun 22, 2020 7:10:36 GMT
-Tippi Hedren in The Birds and Marnie -Jack Nicholson - The Shining -Rachel Weisz in The Deep Blue Sea -Katharine Hepburn in Bringing Up Baby -Gloria Swanson in Sunset Boulevard -Marlon Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire -Kate Winslet in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Don’t @ me. I disagree with every single one of them.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jun 22, 2020 8:49:53 GMT
-Tippi Hedren in The Birds and Marnie -Jack Nicholson - The Shining -Rachel Weisz in The Deep Blue Sea -Katharine Hepburn in Bringing Up Baby -Gloria Swanson in Sunset Boulevard -Marlon Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire -Kate Winslet in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Don’t @ me. wattsnew
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 1, 2020 18:22:39 GMT
Richard Gere in Days of Heaven ........
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jul 19, 2020 7:57:45 GMT
Harry Dean Stanton - Paris, Texas
Get over the sentimental/deep hearted attachment to this dude. He was not a good actor at all. One expression. Staring blankly into the sunset with longing puppy eyes.
I realize he died lately, but the dude was such a non-entity actor you wonder where those "He was God" comments come from. This is coming from someone who considers Paris, Texas his #7 favorite film. And I thought in Paris, Texas he was actually quite good and better than his usual self. But still, not Oscar worthy and Kinski pretty much destroyed him. I don't think he dragged Paris, Texas down at all though because like I said he was good, just not great, but you could've interchanged him and got a better/similar result.
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Post by chris3 on Jul 20, 2020 6:40:32 GMT
Ryan O'Neal in Barry Lyndon. Charisma-vacuum. I've read that this is sort-of the point, though. Were you supposed to root against him in the duel at the end? Because I sure did.
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Post by Allenism on Jul 24, 2020 15:40:30 GMT
Stranger on a Train West Side Story (well, "great" is stretching it) Gangs of New York (ditto)
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 24, 2020 15:56:05 GMT
Gangs of New York (ditto) Which performance do you mean?
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 24, 2020 16:39:46 GMT
Gangs of New York (ditto) Which performance do you mean? DiCaprio can be considered one of the leads, so I'm pretty sure he must mean him.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 24, 2020 17:51:51 GMT
Which performance do you mean? DiCaprio can be considered one of the leads, so I'm pretty sure he must mean him. Well, I don't think it's DDL. It could be Diaz but it's not a leading part.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 24, 2020 17:56:10 GMT
I sometimes like to think how much better Prince of the City would've been without Treat Williams's punchable face visible in every frame. Everything around him is peak-Lumet but he feels disastrously out place.
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Post by jimmalone on Aug 6, 2020 12:34:00 GMT
I sometimes like to think how much better Prince of the City would've been without Treat Williams's punchable face visible in every frame. Everything around him is peak-Lumet but he feels disastrously out place. Good one, though disastrously is a bit too harsh. But yeah, this is one of the films that indeed would have been helped by a better actor in the leading role.
Yesterday I rewatched "A Civil Action", which is a fine film, but I think it could have been a great one if not for John Travolta, who is pretty bad. And especially in scenes with the excellent Robert Duvall this is significant.
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Post by franklin on Aug 11, 2020 20:46:55 GMT
DiCaprio was great in Gangs of New York, he was only 26 years old and he had to go against DDL. He also nailed the Americanized Irish accent, as in the film he literally says that he lost the pure Irish accent.
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Post by BlackCaesar21 on Aug 12, 2020 18:12:31 GMT
John David Washington just wasn't charismatic enough in Blackkklansman
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