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Post by HELENA MARIA on Apr 26, 2020 15:44:45 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 26, 2020 16:39:17 GMT
LeBron doing that LA thing.........
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Post by Mattsby on Apr 26, 2020 19:55:35 GMT
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 29, 2020 15:42:04 GMT
As I posted earlier, I re-watched Glengarry Glen Ross yesterday (my 3rd or 4th viewing). Although I believe Lemmon stole the show in a movie full of great performances, Al was dynamite here. Every time this guy has a role full of speeches and dialogues, he nails them. Especially before his Oscar win, he was playing such roles and next thing you know, he was nominated! I always was, and still am, very curious about his staging of the play about 7-8 years ago. Anyone here watched it?? I know he was playing Levine, probably the most complex character of the play. I wonder how he approached the part. The way Lemmon did, maybe?
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 29, 2020 15:54:29 GMT
I always was, and still am, very curious about his staging of the play about 7-8 years ago. Anyone here watched it?? I know he was playing Levine, probably the most complex character of the play. I wonder how he approached the part. The way Lemmon did, maybe? I've seen the play a million times with lots of different casts ..........Pacino plays it much different than Lemmon. Lemmon was desperate, Pacino plays him as pathetic and sad........he is not right to play Shelley - THIS is where he's miscast I'd say much more than Bobby Deerfield or something like that - and actually I don't think Lemmon is "perfect" either for it - in the movie that was discussed as being De Niro and then Paul Newman who came really close to playing it. But Lemmon is better for it and it evokes Save The Tiger too. Pacino is off in the first act as Shelley - the whole play was off too and I remember being disappointed and then out of nowhere.....the 2nd act however kicks into gear and the ending scenes were spectacular and suddenly Pacino clicked too - Bobby Cannavale was a great Roma in particular in those ending scenes. It's a very strange play because the guy that plays Shelley always gets lots of acclaim but Roma always gets nominated or wins awards on stage and in the movie (Joe Mantegna, Liev Schreiber won Tony Awards for Ricky opposite their Shelley's Robert Prosky and Alan Alda on stage).
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 29, 2020 16:11:04 GMT
I always was, and still am, very curious about his staging of the play about 7-8 years ago. Anyone here watched it?? I know he was playing Levine, probably the most complex character of the play. I wonder how he approached the part. The way Lemmon did, maybe? I've seen the play a million times with lots of different casts ..........Pacino plays it much different than Lemmon. Lemmon was desperate, Pacino plays him as pathetic and sad........he is not right to play Shelley - THIS is where he's miscast I'd say much more than Bobby Deerfield or something like that - and actually I don't think Lemmon is "perfect" either for it - in the movie that was discussed as being De Niro and then Paul Newman who came really close to playing it. But Lemmon is better for it and it evokes Save The Tiger too. Pacino is off in the first act as Shelley - the whole play was off too and I remember being disappointed and then out of nowhere.....the 2nd act however kicks into gear and the ending scenes were spectacular and suddenly Pacino clicked too - Bobby Cannavale was a great Roma in particular in those ending scenes. It's a very strange play because the guy that plays Shelley always gets lots of acclaim but Roma always gets nominated or wins awards on stage and in the movie (Joe Mantegna, Liev Schreiber won Tony Awards for Ricky opposite their Shelley's Robert Prosky and Alan Alda on stage). Yeah, iirc Cannavale was praised for his performance but the reviews for the play were mediocre at best. Then again, maybe I remember wrong... (I had read De Niro was considered for a part in the film but was it for Levine's role? Couldn't be. Levine was supposed to be a veteran salesman, right?)
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 29, 2020 16:46:01 GMT
I had read De Niro was considered for a part in the film but was it for Levine's role? Couldn't be. Levine was supposed to be a veteran salesman, right? Yeah it would have been for Shelley and a little odd - you would have had to age him - Shelley is the vet and on the way down as Ricky is rising. DePac also talked about filming Speed The Plow another Mamet play where the ages don't matter much that still has somehow never been filmed at all. But Paul Newman as Shelley in some ways fascinates me the most - you never knew with Newman and what he might do with a part and Pacino/Newman would have been a great match-up of styles imo. Pacino got to interact with 4 of the top 10 American film actors ever .........De Niro got to interact with 5 - that freakin' bastard!......though I guess that depends on who you consider the top 10 to actually be.......... but something like these guys: Brando, Pacino, De Niro, Nicholson, Hoffman, Newman, Lemmon, Hackman, Duvall.....well that's 9 anyway
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 29, 2020 17:36:15 GMT
I had read De Niro was considered for a part in the film but was it for Levine's role? Couldn't be. Levine was supposed to be a veteran salesman, right? Yeah it would have been for Shelley and a little odd - you would have had to age him - Shelley is the vet and on the way down as Ricky is rising. DePac also talked about filming Speed The Plow another Mamet play where the ages don't matter much that still has somehow never been filmed at all. But Paul Newman as Shelley in some ways fascinates me the most - you never knew with Newman and what he might do with a part and Pacino/Newman would have been a great match-up of styles imo. Pacino got to interact with 4 of the top 10 American film actors ever .........De Niro got to interact with 5 - that freakin' bastard!......though I guess that depends on who you consider the top 10 to actually be.......... but something like these guys: Brando, Pacino, De Niro, Nicholson, Hoffman, Newman, Lemmon, Hackman, Duvall.....well that's 9 anyway These are 5, not 4... If you consider of course he never interacted with Hoffman in Dick Tracy (I had to rewatch it a few days ago after many years only to find out that Pacino actually talks to him in a scene...) but they are still 5!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 29, 2020 17:43:42 GMT
Pacino got to interact with 4 of the top 10 American film actors ever .........De Niro got to interact with 5 - that freakin' bastard!......though I guess that depends on who you consider the top 10 to actually be.......... but something like these guys: Brando, Pacino, De Niro, Nicholson, Hoffman, Newman, Lemmon, Hackman, Duvall.....well that's 9 anyway These are 5, not 4... If you consider of course he never interacted with Hoffman in Dick Tracy (I had to rewatch it a few days ago after many years only to find out that Pacino actually talks to him in a scene...) but they are still 5!! Haha oh yeah..........thx Terry
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Post by wallsofjericho on Apr 30, 2020 21:43:01 GMT
Christopher Plummer on Al at 3:05.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 1, 2020 10:11:11 GMT
Christopher Plummer on Al at 3:05.Thanks for posting this walls - I had never seen this (wtf!) and it's great - and he says things that are covered within this thread too in 2 minutes: He talks about "American acting" (important distinction), and he talks about "who else would even WANT to play Herod" and he laughs which gets into Al's whole other experimental side.........and he picks 2 pieces: Merchant of Venice and Salome - both of which are filmed - for those who need to see them - to make his point too: If we ignore all Pacino's iconic "big" roles - all of it - the stuff that people idolize him for on film or stage and just pretend he didn't do any of those famous parts - he'd still be regarded as a very great actor just for all of his other stuff. I think the only other person I can really say that about in a comparable way is ..........Streep?
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Post by Mattsby on May 11, 2020 20:47:39 GMT
We weren't the only ones alpreciating recently! Cate Blanchett on today's WTF with Marc Maron, called Pacino her hero - I tried to copy down verbatim what she said - “He’s so bold. He really pushes the envelope all the time. I watched Heat again the other night, and oh my god - he’s so sexy and so present and so alive. I loved his work in The Irishman. He's so present - I wanna be on the other end of that gaze.”
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Post by pacinoyes on May 11, 2020 22:16:26 GMT
We weren't the only ones alpreciating recently! Cate Blanchett on today's WTF with Marc Maron, called Pacino her hero - I tried to copy down verbatim what she said - “He’s so bold. He really pushes the envelope all the time. I watched Heat again the other night, and oh my god - he’s so sexy and so present and so alive. I loved his work in The Irishman. He's so present - I wanna be on the other end of that gaze.” So let me see if I have this straight - Blanchett who after Huppert and Streep is probably the 3rd best actress in the entire world - especially after Mrs. America - and she's already worked on-stage with Huppert who also praises Pacino wildly......so then are you going to put them on the other side of your senile gaze Al? .......... or you just going to run your victory lap of gathering adjectives as the GOAT and just sit there at 80 and wait for the fnckin' Sweet Embrace of Death? Grrrrrrr Kidding, kidding..... I mentioned a Blanchett acting move in the Mrs. America thread where she nods in the affirmative when saying a negative and how she communicates the character through her portrayal like that - a very Pacino move - and I like her use of the word "present" as a descriptive term also.
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Post by Mattsby on May 11, 2020 22:23:59 GMT
So let me see if I have this straight - Blanchett who after Huppert and Streep is probably the 3rd best actress in the entire world - especially after Mrs. America - and she's already worked on-stage with Huppert who also praises Pacino wildly......so then are you going to put them on the other side of your senile gaze Al? .......... or you just going to run your victory lap of gathering adjectives as the GOAT and just sit there at 80 and wait for the fnckin' Sweet Embrace of Death? Grrrrrrr Kidding, kidding..... I mentioned a Blanchett acting move in the Mrs. America thread where she nods in the affirmative when saying a negative and how she communicates the character through her portrayal like that - a very Pacino move - and I like her use of the word "present" as a descriptive term also. It's like a running gag, but not. When asked who's the actor they wanna work with most - Javier Bardem, Nicolas Cage, Jeff Bridges, Ellen Burstyn, etc etc etc - they say Pacino. And there's those like Julie Christie who he's so highly praised but also never worked with. C'monnnnn!!
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Post by Javi on May 14, 2020 21:53:10 GMT
This thread is a joy to read You were all right about You Don't Know About Jack btw; just watched it today. What a magnificent bastard.
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 7, 2020 20:17:06 GMT
YESSSSSSSSS. Major grin on my face while watching that. This was done for an Italian site Repubblica, posted July 3rd. His first "performance" since Hunters - not done with the accent either! We want more!!!!! pacinoyes
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 7, 2020 20:41:10 GMT
Major grin on my face while watching that. This was done for an Italian site Repubblica, posted July 3rd. His first "performance" since Hunters - not done with the accent either! We want more!!!!! pacinoyes Well first let me say that he should be cancelled because he is not a Jew and this should only be done by a Jew - who does he think he is playing this! Sarcasm.... If you've seen the film, and his Tony nominated play version (this speech is on Youtiube from his stage version) and this - that's 3 different ways he plays the speech - some sections almost entirely different - usually actors try to "get it right" and then just repeat it - now he may be so senile he doesn't know what he did before ( quite possible!) - but acting to him is to get to it his own way and he is so amazingly in command of his verbal craft that he can literally play, twist, elongate and change the entire rhythm of text just in this setting. It's great fun to watch....... Not only has there never been anyone like him in American film/theater ......he's not even himself from moment to moment.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 12, 2020 13:06:14 GMT
This may not be the right thread but I can't find a generic Pacino thread for some reason Mattsby - If you have access to the "Decades" channel - they are showing a marathon of NYPD this weekend and with that in mind they have this listed for Sunday AM EST ..............hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm: 11:00AM ET N.Y.P.D. - DEADLY CIRCLE OF VIOLENCE "A motive is sought for the attempted killing of a disreputable white southerner (Al Pacino), with suspicions pointing toward black militants who are seeking revenge for the bombing of an African-American church in the South." www.decades.com/schedule/
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 22, 2020 17:56:02 GMT
Throwing this in here since I can't find a general thread.......this is a pretty good piece of Netflix fellatio on him, I assume something similar will come for De Niro and possibly Oldman as well......
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 1, 2020 16:46:06 GMT
This is exactly why he is the GOAT and will either win every poll (like last time) on here or at worst finish among the top 5 Americans with his equally legendary peers only Brando, De Niro, Nicholson. This is the 2nd straight December he's in a movie being called great......and who gets this many of his films reassessed like this anyway (!) - most actors get 1 if they're lucky - he now has what...... at least 5 MAJOR ones (several other minor ones) - Cruising, Carlito's Way, Godfather 3, Heat, Scarface - all ones he wasn't even nominated for which he beats all living Americans for except Nicholson anyway. You may not like all those personally but it's crucial in how he's assessed and seen. Someone asked me the other day they said "Hey Pacinoyes, when are we doing the next MAR GOAT poll?" For what REASON?!!?!?!?!? After the last 12 months he's had .....he not going to suddenly drop a lot is he? It’s undeniable: when Coppola gets going, he’s unstoppable.......Anchoring all of this is Pacino, who gives a memorable turn as a very different Michael. If you watch all three films back-to-back – as I did recently – it’s jarring to see how different a person Michael seems in each incarnation. He’s out of his depth for most of The Godfather, he’s ruthless and almost psychopathic in The Godfather Part II, and here, he’s weary. You can feel the tiredness radiating off of Pacino as he shuffles around, hidden away behind dark sunglasses. He’s mellowed in his old age, and all he wants is to put the past behind him. But he can’t. Just when he thought he was out, they pull him back in.
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