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Post by cheesecake on Apr 16, 2020 17:25:25 GMT
pacinoyes you weren't kidding about Misconduct. Save for Pacino and Hopkins, this is STACKED with people I do not enjoy watching on my screen. I am confident in saying the only two times Åkerman has been good/decent was with The Comeback and The Final Girls. I also cannot tolerate Alice Eve in any way. Mix in a heaping portion of Duhamel, that godawful score and whatever you can call that screenplay... this was .
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Post by cheesecake on Apr 16, 2020 19:00:39 GMT
Watched The Pirates of Somalia which I'd never heard of. Have never really bought Evan Peters as a leading man, but he's alright. It's always nice to see Abdi pop up. Pacino has a small role and some good lines. It's competently made but rather forgettable.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 16, 2020 19:11:22 GMT
Watched The Pirates of Somalia which I'd never heard of. Have never really bought Evan Peters as a leading man, but he's alright. It's always nice to see Abdi pop up. Pacino has a small role and some good lines. It's competently made but rather forgettable. 67% Fresh on RT! .............Tell me about it pal - he has 27 TV/Film roles since Insomnia (2002) ............ 27
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 17, 2020 8:52:21 GMT
No one ever played cops like Al Pacino - in 5 great roles - Serpico, Cruising, Sea of Love, Heat, Insomnia - he played the same occupation but in entirely different emotional notes. Today's recommended movie: Insomnia (2002) - his last great cop role (at 62), and convincingly pulling off the black leather and gun - all his best work after this role would be in less alpha-Male and more quirky character work (AiA, Merchant of Venice, YDK Jack, Phil Spector, Manglehorn, The Humbling, Danny Collins, Paterno, The Irishman).
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Post by cheesecake on Apr 17, 2020 14:31:20 GMT
Another one I've never heard of, 2011's The Son of No One. Just have Danny Collins left.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 17, 2020 14:44:57 GMT
Another one I've never heard of, 2011's The Son of No One. Just have Danny Collins left. Son of No One: Do you think that when they cast Juliette Binoche (ridiculously, awfully) she maybe thought she was going to get a chance to act with Al Pacino..........because I sure thought she was going to when I sat down to watch it! Danny Collins I recommended earlier in the thread cheesecake, now that ones a winner! - and that was his 17th Golden Globe nomination too .........though for the Golden Globes it's always Al-preciation month tbh.
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Post by cheesecake on Apr 17, 2020 15:05:40 GMT
Another one I've never heard of, 2011's The Son of No One. Just have Danny Collins left. Son of No One: Do you think that when they cast Juliette Binoche (ridiculously, awfully) she maybe thought she was going to get a chance to act with Al Pacino..........because I sure thought she was going to when I sat down to watch it! Danny Collins I recommended earlier in the thread cheesecake, now that ones a winner! - and that was his 17th Golden Globe nomination too .........though for the Golden Globes it's always Al-preciation month tbh. Binoche was... something.
Glad to hear about Danny Collins and that I can end on a good note, though I really feel like I should rewatch one of my favorites to top this off.
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 17, 2020 16:49:55 GMT
Re-watched Bobby Deerfield. It remains a 5-5.5/10 for me. Very uneven movie. It had the best of intentions but failed.
Not a sports drama, not a real drama to be precise. Just a love story and a very mediocre one. First and only time in Al's career he played the love interest in a romance. Or something like that anyway.
As for Marthe Keller, she was pretty good but nowhere near Marathon Man.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 17, 2020 17:09:39 GMT
Bobby Deerfield is one of my favorite films to talk about because when you look at it now almost 50 years later you associate Pacino with some crap - sure - but it's almost always things in small parts. But Bobby Deerfield is the lead and he could in theory play it - he isn't miscast fully (Revolution) or a cash grab (88 Minutes).....it's the GOAT, failing and it's fascinating to me. And yet.....: The Mae West impression and his reading of the Timex commercial and getting his eyeglasses knocked off almost save it because he has his moments even there......but...... who is the guy with the salami? ruins everything. Also Wtf Sydney Pollack - it's a shockingly badly directed movie and he gets let off the hook wayyyyyyyyy too easily..... But damn on the other hand dude never looked better:
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 17, 2020 20:36:19 GMT
Bobby Deerfield is one of my favorite films to talk about because when you look at it now almost 50 years later you associate Pacino with some crap - sure - but it's almost always things in small parts. But Bobby Deerfield is the lead and he could in theory play it - he isn't miscast fully (Revolution) or a cash grab (88 Minutes).....it's the GOAT, failing and it's fascinating to me. And yet.....: The Mae West impression and his reading of the Timex commercial and getting his eyeglasses knocked off almost save it because he has his moments even there......but...... who is the guy with the salami? ruins everything. Also Wtf Sydney Pollack - it's a shockingly badly directed movie and he gets let off the hook wayyyyyyyyy too easily..... But damn on the other hand dude never looked better: True, he never looked better but still if you wanted a leading guy for a love story, Pacino wasn't the one to pick... Both him and Keller had their moments but as you said... the guy with the salami!!
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Post by cheesecake on Apr 17, 2020 21:25:13 GMT
Yeah, Danny Collins was quite enjoyable. Really strong cast and I liked Bening as well which is something I never say.
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 18, 2020 11:03:02 GMT
Re-watched it yesterday. My 3rd watch iirc. I always loved that film. A great satire of the judicial system. A movie that doesn't take itself very seriously but is spot on. Pacino is great in it, funny and desperate at the same time. His 8th movie and 5th Oscar nomination. Back then, you'd think they would nominate him even if he did the laundry on film.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 18, 2020 11:40:19 GMT
Pacino is great in it, funny and desperate at the same time. His 8th movie and 5th Oscar nomination. Back then, you'd think they would nominate him even if he did the laundry on film. I made a point about this movie that he's maybe the best ever (Brando is another........and actually Cate Blanchett is doing this thing noticeably right now in Mrs. America) at "listening acting" - listening and then reacting - either in how he reads his written text back or with an expression (or his manner). No matter how good or bad the actor was when speaking to Pacino - he would show his own character listening and then reply back to them in the best way possible........he's amazing at it in this movie which is a great performance that maybe is only in his top ..........20 for me (maybe?). It's sort of like a tennis player returning a serve................ The scene with John Forsythe where he meets to discuss the case (where Forsythe tells him to "sit down"), the scene where he takes Ralph's statement and all the gentle, funny scenes with Lee Strasberg................it's those little scenes where he appears to be doing nothing at all that's where he defines the character arc.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 18, 2020 18:31:33 GMT
The end of this movie has Al Pacino, (maybe improvising?) blowing Greta Gerwig off the screen in a way that you rarely see in modern movies nowadays ..... and it was glorious to see tbh. This wildly uneven, hit or miss indie movie contains his best film performance (non-HBO/non-theater) in 10 years - manic/funny/poignant/revealing. The problem of course is the movie isn't up to his work in it........but that's standard with him anyway, right? Today's recommended film: The Humbling (2014):
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Post by Viced on Apr 19, 2020 14:13:14 GMT
I say what I mean, and I do what I say.7. HEAT (1995)Of course everyone loves the GREAT ASS and GIMME ALL YA GOT moments... but after Serpico, this is probably Pacino's most intense, committed, and believable cop performance. His drive to be a hunter (I'll try to watch at least the first episode of that this month... lol) just feels so damn real. Mann is of course operating at god-level here, but it's the weight of Pacino/De Niro's GOAT-ness that really elevates this to a thing of beauty.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 19, 2020 14:32:19 GMT
I say what I mean, and I do what I say.7. HEAT (1995) but it's the weight of Pacino/De Niro's GOAT-ness that really elevates this to a thing of beauty. Also, one of his great listening performances where he seems to be listening without listening intently at all - yet coherently, nothing gets by him either. He looks away a lot but not when it matters like in "that" diner scene - how he uses his face, eyes, voice is big part of the performance and it's one of control - it's like Scarface in the way, he knows exactly what he's doing in both - and Mann shoots him like De Palma did - all energy and motion. He's also the most imitated and influential movie cop ever ........and of course if he didn't have that awesome iconography of cops Vince Hanna wouldn't work at all ........and that's a helluva nice watch. In his top ~15 performances....
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 20, 2020 7:34:42 GMT
On this date: April 20th, 1969 Tony Awards: He wins his first Tony this time for Best Supporting Actor - ( cheesecake - with his Me, Natalie connection, the presenter Patty Duke, you watched the film earlier in this thread.) Pacino starts the first of his record 5 Triple Crown win speeches with a joke: "Don't drop it Al"
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 21, 2020 15:50:11 GMT
I watched Author! Author!, my second viewing. I always liked this little film. A family movie (kind of comedy), nothing special but entertaining. Bits of a drama and some very funny quotes. Pacino is pretty good in it (nominated for a Globe) but you can tell it was not his cup of tea. Not exactly miscast but he was too good for the level of the film. Not the best choice for family movies/rom-coms/comedies... Very strong supporting performances from Dyan Cannon, Tuesday Weld, Alan King and the kids. 6/10
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 21, 2020 16:14:48 GMT
I watched Author! Author!, my second viewing. I always liked this little film. A family movie (kind of comedy), nothing special but entertaining. Bits of a drama and some very funny quotes. Pacino is pretty good in it (nominated for a Globe) but you can tell it was not his cup of tea. Not exactly miscast but he was too good for the level of the film. Not the best choice for family movies/rom-coms/comedies... Very strong supporting performances from Dyan Cannon, Tuesday Weld, Alan King and the kids. 6/10 pacinoyes hot take - To me......... Author Author is his worst performance because it is the only time I think I can literally see him say " Fnck this movie" He really hated director Arthur Hller........... Even in Bobby Deerfield and Revolution he was trying there - and even his later career cash grabs he tries something fun and goofy (yes, even Hangman). Author! Author! also has a moment where it totally loses me - when he tries to reconcile with Tuesday Weld - his real life girlfriend btw - who is a total bitch character as opposed to Dyan Cannon who is so bubbly and charming in this movie and with Pacino you can't believe he'd try to reconcile with Weld............wtf Al. BUT I will say he has a few great scenes here comic and dramatic scenes - and those few great scenes got him his Golden Globe nomination for this his 6th in 9 roles - he was bigger with the Globes than the Oscars after all he won one of those by now He also gets to quote Brando in Streetcar here which is pretty funny........AND this movie is written by Israel Horovitz who actually is the guy who made him a star first in 1968 in his play: The Indian Wants the Bronx where Pacino won an Obie Award (Off-Broadway version of a Tony) with his friend John Cazale . Those two dudes were awesome before The Godfathers and Dog Day Afternoon....... That's Cazale in turban:
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 21, 2020 16:27:09 GMT
pacinoyes hot take- To me......... Author Author is his worst performance because it is the only time I think I can literally see him say " Fnck this movie" He really hated director Arthur Hller........... Even in Bobby Deerfield and Revolution he was trying there - and even his later career cash grabs he tries something fun and goofy (yes, even Hangman). Worse than Hangman? He was almost asleep in Hangman... Never gave me the impression of thinking "fuck this movie" tbh. Author! Author! also has a moment where it totally loses me - when he tries to reconcile with Tuesday Weld - his real life girlfriend btw - who is a total bitch character as opposed to Dyan Cannon who is so bubbly and charming in this movie and with Pacino you can't believe he'd try to reconcile with Weld............wtf Al. Well, yeah, that was totally stupid. (What was going on with this guy? He was making movies with all his girlfriends back then? Or he was trying to find some dates while shooting?)
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 21, 2020 16:41:56 GMT
Author! Author! also has a moment where it totally loses me - when he tries to reconcile with Tuesday Weld - his real life girlfriend btw - who is a total bitch character as opposed to Dyan Cannon who is so bubbly and charming in this movie and with Pacino you can't believe he'd try to reconcile with Weld............wtf Al. Well, yeah, that was totally stupid. (What was going on with this guy? He was making movies with all his girlfriends back then? Or he was trying to find some dates while shooting?)All his girlfriends for a while were co-stars Keaton, Weld, Keller ........then he met other girlfriends who were still actresses anyway (Kathleen Quinlan, Debra Winger). This period of his career is where he lost his business relationship with Martin Bregman for a while - who either picked every script for him or produced his movies - that's literally every movie script from 1971-1993. In fact, Al Pacino never picked a successful movie project himself until ..........um.......the 2000s (the ones Bregman didn't pick his agent picked - Rick Nicita) That's why a lot of people say American Buffalo is not only his greatest performance but his most important - because it kept him a star outside the movies, kept his "great actor" reputation going strong.................. and he didn't need Martin Bregman who for once didn't pick it.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 21, 2020 20:52:18 GMT
Love it or hate it - and it has many people on both sides - Pacino's batsh it crazy TV show "Hunters" gave him some good reviews and some grand maestro moments (particularly in episode 10) - and kept his geezer streak going. Next up, the questionable Axis Sally which may stop that streak Al (um) and then.......nothing else - no other filmed upcoming projects coming up. In the words of Bob Dylan.............Oh mama .............can this really....... be.......... the end.....? Let's hope not but you know Welcome to Mooseport and How Do You Know weren't ideal for Gene & Jack either. Today's recommendation - Hunters (2020) streaming on Amazon Prime:
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 22, 2020 6:27:42 GMT
I saw episode 7 yesterday. Al is fine in it and I kind of like the show. Not great but entertaining.
I can't believe Axis Sully will be his last film role. He owes a King Lear!!! (wtf is going on with Sully? Is it ever gonna be released?)
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 22, 2020 10:15:12 GMT
Enough with this fanboy thread! ....... What makes him THAT special anyway!?! He's just another old, privileged white male with his disgusting penis!
Sure now maybe...... but you just name me 1 American, GOAT-level actor of any color or gender, from his generation onward - who had more obstacles to overcome AND who has a super-hero origin story as bad-ass as this midget:
Grew up poor, 10th grade drop-out, dead end jobs deep into adulthood:
* At 22+ he was periodically homeless * At 27 he was just the janitor - the janitor for Godsakes - in playwright Israel Horovitz's building * At 28 he was starring in a new Israel Horovitz play (!)
* At 29 he was on Broadway in another play * At 30 he was filming his first lead movie role * At 31 he was filming The Godfather
* At 32 Jesus' age when he was crucified, Pacino also ascended.....
Sidney Lumet - who he worked with at 33 - totally getting it:
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Post by DeepArcher on Apr 23, 2020 3:32:05 GMT
Since it's the man's birthday in a few days, I'm gonna be getting to some stuff I've been meaning to watch for awhile... Tonight: Donnie Brasco (extended version) The movie itself ... was okay. Actually, it was good. Maybe it was really good? Not really my thing, but it got captivating as it went along and then outright great towards the end. Dismissed it as nothing special at first but then surprised me. Just didn't hold me from start to finish ... maybe the theatrical cut is leaner and more palatable, I don't know. But this is a thread about Pacino, so I'll talk about him. This role is his bread-and-butter, but he's doing something really special with it. At first he's incredibly funny in his characteristic way and is absolutely having a ball with those line deliveries ... but as the film progresses he becomes more and more heartbreaking. His final scene where he's simply putting away his valuables before leaving his home speaks volumes and is quietly devastating all on its own. When you get whacked it's your best friend who does it ... ouch. If you think someone else could've played this role ... forget about it...
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