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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 28, 2022 16:54:24 GMT
C'mon....no one is going to "review bomb" Manchester By The Sea. It's not a Marvel Film or Star Wars or even a film that incels would go after for being too "woke" or whatever. It's just regular degular domestic drama that regular audiences found super-overrated.Of course it's rated well Letterboxed etc....those are the same demographics as critics and Film Twitter. They drink the same kool-aid, and critics were the ones that massively overrated Manchester By The Sea in the first place. Amazon is just full of customers buying or renting the film. You are getting real opinions there from paying customers. Manchester By The Sea (or Affleck's performance) is not a film that has aged well with regular audiences.Ratings on IMDB are next to useless, imho. It's full of nerds giving 10 out of 10 to the latest superhero movie or racists giving 0 out of 10 to movies with black casts. And unlike Amazon, none of the people rating the film have to even have seen it or paid to see it.Not saying you can't be a fan of the film or Affleck in it, but I think a lot of the evidence I presented on this thread years ago (before it was randomly resurrected ) suggests that neither Manchester By The Sea nor Affleck's performance is held in particularly high regard by general audiences. It is what it is.That is all that's been said. I'll see this thread again in 2026 maybe.LOL!
Right ... Letterboxd and IMDb ratings (close to 300k votes, btw) are useless, but ratings on Amazon Prime somehow are indicative of the film's popularity. Well, there you go. Guess you got me on this and Manchester By The Sea and Casey Affleck's performance are clearly among the most popular and beloved films and performances by general audiences in the 21st Century. A modern classic Anecdotally speaking, the film seem to have a limited footprint today with General audiences, and the Buzz feed poll had Affleck as the 2nd least popular Best Actor win of the 2010's. But if you love Manchester & Affleck in it, I won't argue. I said what I said.
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Post by stephen on Dec 28, 2022 17:06:06 GMT
Right ... Letterboxd and IMDb ratings (close to 300k votes, btw) are useless, but ratings on Amazon Prime somehow are indicative of the film's popularity. Well, there you go. Guess you got me on this and Manchester By The Sea and Casey Affleck's performance are clearly among the most popular and beloved films and performances by general audiences in the 21st Century. A modern classic Anecdotally speaking, the film seem to have a limited footprint today with General audiences, and the Buzz feed poll had Affleck as the 2nd least popular Best Actor win of the 2010's. But if you love Manchester & Affleck in it, I won't argue. I said what I said. That Buzzfeed poll lists Malek at #2, a performance universally derided as one of the worst winners in recent memory. And while on the topic of DiCaprio, it's interesting that the poll lists him as the "Best Actor of the decade" for that performance when most people will also claim he shouldn't have won for that performance, as evident by the discourse surrounding that movie. It's just because DiCaprio is the most famous actor on the planet that he won that poll, and Bohemian Rhapsody made a billion dollars is the reason Malek's the runner-up. It's automatically based on a skewed metric that has no bearing on the quality of the work that's been done. Of course Affleck and Dujardin are in the bottom of the list. They're arguably the most obscure actors on the list to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2022 17:21:17 GMT
Amen. I don't know if i have the fortitude to go through it again but every now and then i think about certain scenes (especially that scene at the police station) and god, so haunting. Why, oh why... did you bump this thread?
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 28, 2022 17:23:16 GMT
Well, there you go. Guess you got me on this and Manchester By The Sea and Casey Affleck's performance are clearly among the most popular and beloved films and performances by general audiences in the 21st Century. A modern classic Anecdotally speaking, the film seem to have a limited footprint today with General audiences, and the Buzz feed poll had Affleck as the 2nd least popular Best Actor win of the 2010's. But if you love Manchester & Affleck in it, I won't argue. I said what I said. That Buzzfeed poll lists Malek at #2, a performance universally derided as one of the worst winners in recent memory. And while on the topic of DiCaprio, it's interesting that the poll lists him as the "Best Actor of the decade" for that performance when most people will also claim he shouldn't have won for that performance, as evident by the discourse surrounding that movie. It's just because DiCaprio is the most famous actor on the planet that he won that poll, and Bohemian Rhapsody made a billion dollars is the reason Malek's the runner-up. It's automatically based on a skewed metric that has no bearing on the quality of the work that's been done. Of course Affleck and Dujardin are in the bottom of the list. They're arguably the most obscure actors on the list to begin with. Errr... Mahershala Ali in Moonlight comfortably thrashed the competition in the Buzz feed poll to win Best Supporting Actor Of The Decade. Ali isn't a superstar actor ( going by your theory, the far more famous Christian Bale in The Fighter should have won that poll category by a landslide. Bale is 5th) and Moonlight only made modest money at the box office. The poll can't be as skewed as you suggest if Ali can win so comfortably for Moonlight. Maybe... Just maybe... it's just what general audiences liked and their responses. Extreme suggestion, I know, but do consider it. Malek is universally derided by Film Twitter. We need to make a clear separation of what I'm talking about... General Audiences. They probably think Malek is amazing as Freddy Mercury.
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Post by stephen on Dec 28, 2022 17:28:15 GMT
That Buzzfeed poll lists Malek at #2, a performance universally derided as one of the worst winners in recent memory. And while on the topic of DiCaprio, it's interesting that the poll lists him as the "Best Actor of the decade" for that performance when most people will also claim he shouldn't have won for that performance, as evident by the discourse surrounding that movie. It's just because DiCaprio is the most famous actor on the planet that he won that poll, and Bohemian Rhapsody made a billion dollars is the reason Malek's the runner-up. It's automatically based on a skewed metric that has no bearing on the quality of the work that's been done. Of course Affleck and Dujardin are in the bottom of the list. They're arguably the most obscure actors on the list to begin with. Errr... Mahershala Ali in Moonlight comfortably thrashed the competition in the Buzz feed poll to win Best Supporting Actor Of The Decade. Ali isn't a superstar actor ( going by your theory, the far more famous Christian Bale in The Fighter should have won that poll category by a landslide. Bale is 5th) and Moonlight only made modest money at the box office. The poll can't be as skewed as you suggest if Ali can win so comfortably for Moonlight. Maybe it's just what regular audiences like and their responses. Extreme suggestion, I know, but do consider it. Mahershala Ali, who had just been announced as Blade when the Buzzfeed poll came out and who had just won a second Oscar so his profile was through the roof. I guarantee you that most voters on these polls haven't seen all the eligible performances, and vote for who the most popular name is.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 28, 2022 17:35:26 GMT
Errr... Mahershala Ali in Moonlight comfortably thrashed the competition in the Buzz feed poll to win Best Supporting Actor Of The Decade. Ali isn't a superstar actor ( going by your theory, the far more famous Christian Bale in The Fighter should have won that poll category by a landslide. Bale is 5th) and Moonlight only made modest money at the box office. The poll can't be as skewed as you suggest if Ali can win so comfortably for Moonlight. Maybe it's just what regular audiences like and their responses. Extreme suggestion, I know, but do consider it. Mahershala Ali, who had just been announced as Blade when the Buzzfeed poll came out and who had just won a second Oscar so his profile was through the roof. I guarantee you that most voters on these polls haven't seen all the eligible performances, and vote for who the most popular name is. Then Christian Bale should have the poll won easily, not placed 5th. He's freaking Batman in the most popular trilogy of Batman films. No one should be able to compete with that if it's just a popularity contest. Yet he's mid-table You are reaching to fit a theory and win argument. I get it and respect it, because I might do the same in your position. But the math ain't mathing.
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Post by stephen on Dec 28, 2022 17:44:11 GMT
Mahershala Ali, who had just been announced as Blade when the Buzzfeed poll came out and who had just won a second Oscar so his profile was through the roof. I guarantee you that most voters on these polls haven't seen all the eligible performances, and vote for who the most popular name is. Then Christian Bale should have the poll won easily, not placed 5th. He's freaking Batman in the most popular trilogy of Batman films. No one should be able to compete with that if it's just a popularity contest. Yet he's mid-table You are reaching to fit a theory and win argument. I get it and respect it, because I might do the same in your position. But the math ain't mathing. Christian Bale was almost a decade removed from Batman by the time this poll came out, and it should be noted that he was generally derided for The Dark Knight anyway (and The Dark Knight Rises wasn't generally well-received overall, even if he was good in it). Bale has popularity but look at who beat him: Blade, J. Jonah Jameson, Morbius (lol), Blade again. That's not a coincidence. That's a fucking pattern. Buzzfeed polls appeal to the lowest common denominator, and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them because they don't guarantee people have seen everything eligible. So they mean nothing to me other than clickbait.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 28, 2022 17:46:06 GMT
Then Christian Bale should have the poll won easily, not placed 5th. He's freaking Batman in the most popular trilogy of Batman films. No one should be able to compete with that if it's just a popularity contest. Yet he's mid-table You are reaching to fit a theory and win argument. I get it and respect it, because I might do the same in your position. But the math ain't mathing. Christian Bale was almost a decade removed from Batman by the time this poll came out, and it should be noted that he was generally derided for The Dark Knight anyway (and The Dark Knight Rises wasn't generally well-received overall, even if he was good in it). Bale has popularity but look at who beat him: Blade, J. Jonah Jameson, Morbius (lol), Blade again. That's not a coincidence. That's a fucking pattern. Buzzfeed polls appeal to the lowest common denominator, and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them because they don't guarantee people have seen everything eligible. So they mean nothing to me other than clickbait. If you say so.
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Post by wilcinema on Dec 28, 2022 17:53:29 GMT
Why look at Letterboxd and IMDB scores when we have Amazon Prime and Buzzfeed?
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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 28, 2022 22:10:59 GMT
Man really brought out Buzzfeed as an argument
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Dec 28, 2022 23:18:41 GMT
I rewatched it a few weeks ago, and I still don’t understand why he won or was even nominated But, just like the delusional & Narcissistic cruddy puppy antagonizing everyone on this thread smarter than him, you're one of the dumbest & most braindead fucks to ever be cursed upon a message board, so it makes sense you wouldn't know great acting if your life depended on it.
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Post by forksforest on Dec 29, 2022 5:27:59 GMT
Amen. I don't know if i have the fortitude to go through it again but every now and then i think about certain scenes (especially that scene at the police station) and god, so haunting. Why, oh why... did you bump this thread? Lmao, did i? I dont think i realized how old the post was, i was sifting randomly and my undying love for this performance reeled me in to the thread. I'm sending you don't share the enthusiasm lol.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2022 13:45:01 GMT
Why, oh why... did you bump this thread? Lmao, did i? I dont think i realized how old the post was, i was sifting randomly and my undying love for this performance reeled me in to the thread. I'm sending you don't share the enthusiasm lol. No, I love the performance (as well as Mortensen's and Washington's from the lineup)! It's the discussion it inspires that I'm less fond of...
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 29, 2022 13:51:36 GMT
Not my personnal winner but still a worthy winner nonetheless.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 29, 2022 14:32:40 GMT
Ngl, the discussion it inspires in the last 2 days is actually more entertaining than discussing the performance which I've already said was the best performance of 2016 ......personally, I love this thread...........is that so wrong?
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Post by Barbie on Dec 30, 2022 7:31:11 GMT
I rewatched it a few weeks ago, and I still don’t understand why he won or was even nominated But, just like the delusional & Narcissistic cruddy puppy antagonizing everyone on this thread smarter than him, you're one of the dumbest & most braindead fucks to ever be cursed upon a message board, so it makes sense you wouldn't know great acting if your life depended on it. Lol you need to chill. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re active on incel forums
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