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Post by ibbi on Feb 11, 2020 19:47:38 GMT
Summer, Autumn, Winter... and Spring 17 years after the Golden Age of Korean cinema was launched in earnest, when 4 different dudes released 4 different films in the same year that all crossed over to one degree or another, and all were awesome, and pretty much all took their creators careers to another level internationally, it turned out to be one of the quartet who ended Oscar's 92 year old stupidest streak of all. Rank them? Thoughts on them? Memories of Murder (Bong Joon-Ho, May 2, 2003) A Tale of Two Sisters (Kim Jee-Woon, June 13, 2003) Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter... and Spring (Kim Ki-Duk, September 19, 2003) Oldboy (Park Chan-Wook, November 21, 2003)
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 11, 2020 20:00:57 GMT
Diabolical thread.......the first 3 are best of decade contenders imo
All great Oldboy, MoM, ToTS, ......Spring. 2 and 3 are close........
Nothing really competes with Oldboy to me which is such a singular film it functions as the American Memento does where the more you see it, you start to respond to entirely different things within it - it's great the 5th time entirely differently from the 1st.
I once took a friend to see it (her 1st viewing) on the big screen and she had the best reaction - she said "I've never seen a movie that's more beautiful and feels so horrible at the same time"
That's really it - to a certain type of movie fan, Oldboy is like seeing the best Hitchcock terror moments, the end of Repulsion, and the cruelest De Palma sick joke all ground together in a film that is also so alive it must set some kind of record for being that contemplative and frantic simultaneously.........it's an all-timer for me.
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Post by stephen on Feb 11, 2020 20:03:45 GMT
1. Oldboy 2. Memories of Murder 3. Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter... and Spring 4. A Tale of Two Sisters
The first two could be inverted depending on the day.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 11, 2020 20:10:30 GMT
haven't seen Memories of Murder or SSAWaS yet (hope to soon), and I wasn't a fan of Oldboy at all. I did watch Tale of Two Sisters last October and really liked it. Very creepy atmosphere, gobsmacking twist, and two phenomenal performances from Im Soo-jung and especially Yum Jung-ah as the evil stepmother.
If I was picking my top three South Korean films, I'd go with Parasite, Burning, and The Wailing. Those 2000s films kicked off the renaissance of South Korean cinema but it's really come into its own this past decade and I can't wait to see where it goes from here.
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Post by stephen on Feb 11, 2020 20:13:03 GMT
Ah, a fellow man of culture.
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Post by getclutch on Feb 11, 2020 20:16:02 GMT
Oldboy Memories of Murder Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter… and Spring A Tale of Two Sisters
I need to re-watch A Tale of Two Sisters, been too long. It is a must-see for all horror fans.
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 11, 2020 20:27:15 GMT
Great question.
1. Memories of Murder Full-blown masterpiece. An even better Zodiac than Zodiac (a masterpiece in its own right) anchored by an all-timer of a performance from Song. It's of a genre that we're generally oversaturated with and that generally doesn't do it for me, and in spite of that it's one of the most captivating movies I think I've ever seen. Crazy to think that Bong's topped it.
2. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter ... and Spring Another masterpiece and one of the best films of the 21st century that just doesn't get talked about nearly enough. There's so much wisdom seeping out of this thing you'd have thought Kurosawa directed it and it's just utterly breathtaking in its imagery without once being ostentatious about it. And despite its (very appropriate) patience it's also incredibly immersive and never once dull or boring. Simply one of my favorite movies philosophically/ideologically of the last twenty years, you just feel so at peace watching it.
3. Oldboy Haven't seen it since the first time I watched it when I was like 14 and happened upon it on Netflix and was like "oh yeah this is the movie with that hallway scene that gets referenced in ever Youtube video about movies ever made" and anyway I watched it one Saturday afternoon and was overwhelmed and absolutely adored it at the time (obviously). And I think I still love it now? Long overdue for a rewatch. A lot like Bong with his '03 film, Park would go on to top this in the 2010s, but that said it's still a pretty seminal work. And honestly I think one of the main reasons I've never watched it a second time is that I almost feel like I don't need to, it just lingers in the mind so long, I feel like I still remember it all so vividly...
4. A Tale of Two Sisters Comfortably a tier (or more) below the others, which are all some degree of masterful but this is one is not quite there. I don't remember it much, I just don't think I felt very passionately about it despite it being quite captivating in its atmosphere and its ideas.
And yeah shoutouts to The Wailing while we're at it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 1:57:29 GMT
1. A Tale of Two Sisters 2. Memories of Murder 3. Oldboy 4. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring
Don't think any of these are great, or even that close to it really. I like the first two a good deal though. Oldboy I enjoyed more when I was younger, didn't hold up that well on rewatch.
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Post by themoviesinner on Feb 12, 2020 7:04:13 GMT
1. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... And Spring - 10/10 2. Memories Of Murder - 8/10 3. Oldboy - 7.5/10 4. A Tale Of Two Sisters - 2/10
Kim Ki-Duk's film is a masterpiece, the other two are pretty great and I didn't like A Tale Of Two Sisters at all.
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Post by jimmalone on Feb 12, 2020 8:30:14 GMT
1. Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter ... and Spring 9/10 (my favourite Korean film, it's soo beautiful and of a wonderful philosophical attitude and calmness and certainly one the most profound films I've seen) 2. Memories of Murder 9/10
3. Oldboy 7.5/10
Not seen A Tale of Two Sisters
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Post by Pavan on Feb 12, 2020 10:08:15 GMT
1. Oldboy 2. Memories of Murder 3. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... And Spring 4. A Tale of Two Sisters
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Post by pacinoyes on May 11, 2023 18:35:01 GMT
Just putting this here.......and I can pretty safely say if we get any movies better than this, this year well then it's going to be a really good year......not the Spike Lee PoS.
August 16th, in US theaters:
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 11, 2023 19:01:51 GMT
I wish I knew what the point of that ridiculous octopus scene was I know I have to see it again at some point but I remember just finding the film so off-putting and not giving a shit about any of the characters when I saw it years ago. Technically very impressive but an ugly and weird film with a belief-defying twist ending. There are "long cons" and then there's fucking Oldboy.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 11, 2023 19:10:54 GMT
I wish I knew what the point of that ridiculous octopus scene was Dead on the inside for 15 years ........ and craving to be "alive "- so he eats something "alive" - revenge metaphor in seafood terms but ymmv.............and it could just be you know, gross
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Post by SZilla on May 11, 2023 20:12:23 GMT
1. Oldboy 2. Memories of Murder 3. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring 4. A Tale of Two Sisters
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Post by Billy_Costigan on May 11, 2023 20:56:39 GMT
I've only see Oldboy and Memories of a Murder.
Top 10 Korean Films right now...
1. Parasite 2. Oldboy 3. Memories of a Murder 4. The Handmaiden 5. A Bittersweet Life 6. Train to Busan 7. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance
8. The Wailing
9. Right Now, Wrong Then
10. The Chaser HM: A Taxi Driver, The Good, the Bad, the Weird, Age of Shadows, I Saw the Devil
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 21, 2023 22:30:05 GMT
Pretty funny - you can tell he's heard all these in some way and is sort of gently and wryly amused..........legend.........
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Aug 22, 2023 3:31:03 GMT
Pretty funny - you can tell he's heard all these in some way and is sort of gently and wryly amused..........legend......... I could watch a whole hour of this...
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