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Post by jimmalone on Jan 27, 2022 12:21:11 GMT
Just saw the 2nd semifinal on the women's side. Pretty disappointing to be honest, since I expected it to be much more competitive. But it was very entertaining to watch Collins just demolish Swiatek (who, by the way, is a Grand Slam winner) like that. Such a dominating performance. Let's hope the final is much more competitive, although Barty is the clear favorite and anything other than a two set win from her would be a big surprise. As for the men I'm clearly hoping for a Berrettini - Tsitsipas final, as I think they would provide the much more entertaining match, as both will offer powerful, fast-paced tennis. The Medvedev - Nadal final, which is the more likely outcome, I fear will be a tedious grindfest. The whole women's tournament was pretty disappointing.
On the men's side I'm really fine with any combination. Actually I'd contrary to you love Nadal - Medvedev the most, as they are clearly the more versatile players and they gave us already one of the most amazing slam finals of the last years, but I can live with Tsitsipas - Berrettini as well. I'm curious how fit Nadal really is, seems to me he still has some fatigue maybe of his recent covid illness.
However my pick as of now is a Berrettini - Medvedev final.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 28, 2022 9:01:29 GMT
Utter destruction by Satan against Matteo Berrettini who I never thought had a chance - not for one second out there. Not one.  It's like a nightmare to me tbh.......... 
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Post by cherry68 on Jan 28, 2022 11:29:14 GMT
Utter destruction by Satan against Matteo Berrettini who I never thought had a chance - not for one second out there. Not one.  It's like a nightmare to me tbh..........  Well, no wonder he was happy Djokovic couldn't play and Federer has physical issues. I have nothing against Nadal, but his touching his shoulders / nose / face before every turn is unbearable to me.
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Post by themoviesinner on Jan 28, 2022 11:43:55 GMT
Pretty good match between Medvedev and Tsitsipas. First three sets could have gone either way, although Medvedev seemed to have the slight edge. Tsitsipas got broken early in the fourth and then just seemed like he gave up. Completely lifeless play after that, which is rather unusual for him. Despite that, I think his run here has been fantastic, much better than expected at the start of the tournament and offered the Russian some very competitive opposition, for the first three sets at least, much more so than in their semifinal last year. Medvedev looks very solid this tournament and is probably the favorite in the final, although I think it will be a very tight game that will likely go to 5 sets.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 29, 2022 11:14:39 GMT
About as clutch as you can get. What a freaking champion, on and off the court.
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 29, 2022 15:55:01 GMT
There's no better thing than when a person from the host country wins a slam......you could genuinely feel the crowd support for Barty and ending that long drought 
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 29, 2022 23:13:07 GMT
Grand Slam champion Nick Kyrgios. What a timeline.
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Post by ibbi on Jan 30, 2022 14:16:24 GMT
Dead.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 30, 2022 14:18:20 GMT
Rafael Nadal now stands alone as the men's record holder for Grand Slams with a stunning 5 set victory over Danil Medvedev to win his 21st Grand Slam title, where he had to come back from 2 sets to 0 down to beat the Russian. Nadal now has won his second Australian Open title and is only the 4th man in history to win each Grand Slam at least twice.
For the time being in this insane golden age of men's tennis, Nadal is now the GOAT of men's tennis. Up to Novak Djokovic to respond, as he surely will. Roger Federer seems likely to finish 3rd best of his era on 20 Slams.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 30, 2022 14:18:38 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 30, 2022 14:24:50 GMT
Insane match. I can hardly believe Nadal won that. I thought it was over after he lost the 2nd set, and he was likely going down in straights. Has to be one of the greatest comebacks in sport ever to do that at this level, with those stakes and history on the line. This guy keeps adding to his legend. That he's doing this when he's clearly past his prime as well (while Djokovic is still in his prime and hasn't declined physically aa much ) is nuts. Double Career Grand Slam as well. The "clay merchant " stuff rings pretty damned hollow now  . Not even the great Federer could do the DCGS.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 30, 2022 14:26:26 GMT
hahahahaha what? - he now has 2 Grand Slams that Djokovic didn't play in - NOT because of injury - and where Djoko would have been the number 1 seed in. Today he beat a guy who cramped up. Stunning...........and So brave I mean you have to give him credit - he took the opportunity and he won - he still had to win - so congratulations - but he's in no way the GOAT. He's the Jack Nicholson of the GOAT debate behind DePac / DjokFed- still...........um
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 30, 2022 14:29:25 GMT
LOL! Nike are clearly gonna market the hell out of Nadal as GOAT now. You gotta imagine he'll take a 2 slam lead in a few months over Novaxx as the clear favorite for the French Open (unless injury strikes again, which is always possible with Rafa).
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Post by brancaleone on Jan 30, 2022 14:36:46 GMT
Congratulations to the G.O.A.T. on his 21st GS !!!
According to ultimatetennisstatistics.com, the last time he managed to recover from being 2 sets down was the fourth round of Wimbledon 2007 against Mikhail Youzhny.
VAMOOOOS!!!
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 30, 2022 14:41:14 GMT
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Post by brancaleone on Jan 30, 2022 15:08:09 GMT
hahahahaha what? - he now has 2 Grand Slams that Djokovic didn't play in - NOT because of injury - and where Djoko would have been the number 1 seed in. Today he beat a guy who cramped up. The "NOT because of injury" part makes it look even worse for Djokovic. If he wanted to play, he could have played. He could have simply done what 97% of top 100 players have done and compete, but I guess being hero for the anti-vax community was more important to him. Also attempting to downplay Rafa's achievement in this manner is patently ridiculous, considering the fact that Djokovic himself has competed in and won many tournaments when Rafa was out with injury or got injured during the tournament. Despite being a year younger than Nadal, Djokovic (20/66) has actually participated in 4 more Grand Slams than Rafa (21/62) so this argument really doesn't hold water. Finally "he beat a guy who cramped up" comment makes no sense as well. The fact he managed to look fresher in the final set against an opponent who's 10 yrs younger than him is a testament to what kind of incredible athlete Nadal is.
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Post by brancaleone on Jan 30, 2022 15:23:05 GMT
Insane match. I can hardly believe Nadal won that. I thought it was over after he lost the 2nd set, and he was likely going down in straights. Has to be one of the greatest comebacks in sport ever to do that at this level, with those stakes and history on the line. This guy keeps adding to his legend. That he's doing this when he's clearly past his prime as well (while Djokovic is still in his prime and hasn't declined physically aa much ) is nuts. Double Career Grand Slam as well. The "clay merchant " stuff rings pretty damned hollow now  . Not even the great Federer could do the DCGS. The "clay merchant" ,"claydal" and "one court wonder" comments were always incredibly dumb, considering the fact that Rafa is the most successful US Open player of the 2010s and that he has more non-Roland-Garros slams (8) than legends of the sport such as Mcenroe, Willander, Edberg and Becker. He also now has the same number of non-RG slams as Aggasi, Lendl and Connors.
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Post by themoviesinner on Jan 30, 2022 15:24:02 GMT
I think this is more Medvedev's loss to be honest. Don't get me wrong, Nadal was pretty stellar throughout and played a smart match, trying to disrupt Medvedev's rhythm with slices and dropshots and attacking only at the right moments, but I still think he was clearly outplayed for most of the match. I mean Medvedev had more winners, less unforced errors and won more points than Nadal, but still lost in the end. The Russian made some very sloppy errors on crucial moments (especially in the 3rd and 5th set) that cost him in the end. He just squandered so many chances. That game he gifted at 5-5 in the 5th with some absolutely horrible misses, letting Nadal, take the lead once more, was very bad indeed. I also don't understand why he stood so far back from the baseline on return (even on second serves) and didn't attack more there, as it was pretty clear that Nadal wasn't serving well today (at least not as well as he was against Berrettini and Shapovalov).
Well, this is a great win for Nadal and definitely deserved, at least for the fighting spirit he showed. He will probably get his 22nd in the French this year, since I can't see anyone defeating him on clay if he keeps up this current form.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 30, 2022 15:40:07 GMT
Insane match. I can hardly believe Nadal won that. I thought it was over after he lost the 2nd set, and he was likely going down in straights. Has to be one of the greatest comebacks in sport ever to do that at this level, with those stakes and history on the line. This guy keeps adding to his legend. That he's doing this when he's clearly past his prime as well (while Djokovic is still in his prime and hasn't declined physically aa much ) is nuts. Double Career Grand Slam as well. The "clay merchant " stuff rings pretty damned hollow now  . Not even the great Federer could do the DCGS. The "clay merchant" ,"claydal" and "one court wonder" comments were always incredibly dumb, considering the fact that Rafa is the most successful US Open player of the 2010s and that he has more non-Roland-Garros slams (8) than legends of the sport such as Mcenroe, Willander, Edberg and Becker. He also now has the same number of non-RG slams as Aggasi, Lendl and Connors. Good points. Seems a lot of media have no problem now declaring Nadal the GOAT on #21. Deserving. And an extremely classy congratulations from Roger Federer to Nadal on attaining the Men's Grand Slam record.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 30, 2022 16:28:16 GMT
hahahahaha what? - he now has 2 Grand Slams that Djokovic didn't play in - NOT because of injury - and where Djoko would have been the number 1 seed in. Today he beat a guy who cramped up. The "NOT because of injury" part makes it look even worse for Djokovic. If he wanted to play, he could have played. He could have simply done what 97% of top 100 players have done and compete, but I guess being hero for the anti-vax community was more important to him. Also attempting to downplay Rafa's achievement in this manner is patently ridiculous, considering the fact that Djokovic himself has competed in and won many tournaments when Rafa was out with injury or got injured during the tournament. Despite being a year younger than Nadal, Djokovic (20/66) has actually participated in 4 more Grand Slams than Rafa (21/62) so this argument really doesn't hold water.
Finally "he beat a guy who cramped up" comment makes no sense as well. The fact he managed to look fresher in the final set against an opponent who's 10 yrs younger than him is a testament to what kind of incredible athlete Nadal is. Ah, so it's "ridiculous" is it? I disagree and actually find you guilty of specious reasoning rather than insult you by calling your argument "ridiculous": Injuries are a legit part of the game - they are the reason Lemiuex is not the GOAT but Gretzky was - I am not going to argue vax with you and yes anti-vax was more important to him - he may win more slams anyway............we'll see ....... The fact is that Rafael Nadal's last 2 slams came without a healthy Djokovic playing - that's a fact - period - it just is. if you think people don't notice that what can I say to you? I'd rather not argue and call names though - I didn't "downplay his achievement" - I didn't say "put an asterisk next to them" I said he's the 3rd GOAT of all time ..........I didn't say he sucked did I?
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 30, 2022 16:29:08 GMT
I think this is more Medvedev's loss to be honest. Don't get me wrong, Nadal was pretty stellar throughout and played a smart match, trying to disrupt Medvedev's rhythm with slices and dropshots and attacking only at the right moments, but I still think he was clearly outplayed for most of the match. I mean Medvedev had more winners, less unforced errors and won more points than Nadal, but still lost in the end. The Russian made some very sloppy errors on crucial moments (especially in the 3rd and 5th set) that cost him in the end. He just squandered so many chances. That game he gifted at 5-5 in the 5th with some absolutely horrible misses, letting Nadal, take the lead once more, was very bad indeed. I also don't understand why he stood so far back from the baseline on return (even on second serves) and didn't attack more there, as it was pretty clear that Nadal wasn't serving well today (at least not as well as he was against Berrettini and Shapovalov). Well, this is a great win for Nadal and definitely deserved, at least for the fighting spirit he showed. He will probably get his 22nd in the French this year, since I can't see anyone defeating him on clay if he keeps up this current form. Patron saint of reason you are
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Post by jimmalone on Jan 30, 2022 16:49:38 GMT
Incredible. What a final. One of the most memorable for sure. At the start of this tournament I really didn't expect Nadal to compete for the title. And even less after the quarterfinal, when his body seemed worn down and he just barely survived a five-setter against Denis Shapovalov. And as the start of today's match I thought Medvedev is the clear favourite.
Then Nadal started the match pretty weak, making lots of errors, reminding me of most his matches of 2021 and I was afraid we would be in for a one-sided affair. Then he lost the second set, which he definitely should have won and I thought it was all over.
But well this is Rafael Nadal. I think that match today was the ultimate epitome of his career. Regardless of what happened he just tried to do his best, to overcome all hurdles, find new ways and never stopped fighting. I remember when he burst onto the scene he was a different beast. He ran like no other player and brought back more balls than you could imagine, though in some ways his game was still limited. His forehand was amazing, but his serve and his backhand were liablities. But he had a fighting spirit and a mental strength like nobody else. Then there were the many injuries, which forced him to miss so many tournaments and which must also have been mentally demanding. But again he found ways back. And over the years he became better and better in most aspects of the game and also amazingly adapted his play to correct his body's struggles (as the loss of his speed) or to play with less spin on hardcourts. And today after he saw that his tactics didn't work he just throw them overboard and started with a whole different approach, trusting more in his forehand, which also led to reducing his errors and despite his fatigue it somehow worked.
I think there was never an athlete I felt more respect for than Rafael Nadal and today was one of his biggest achievements.
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Post by brancaleone on Jan 30, 2022 17:28:06 GMT
The "NOT because of injury" part makes it look even worse for Djokovic. If he wanted to play, he could have played. He could have simply done what 97% of top 100 players have done and compete, but I guess being hero for the anti-vax community was more important to him. Also attempting to downplay Rafa's achievement in this manner is patently ridiculous, considering the fact that Djokovic himself has competed in and won many tournaments when Rafa was out with injury or got injured during the tournament. Despite being a year younger than Nadal, Djokovic (20/66) has actually participated in 4 more Grand Slams than Rafa (21/62) so this argument really doesn't hold water.
Finally "he beat a guy who cramped up" comment makes no sense as well. The fact he managed to look fresher in the final set against an opponent who's 10 yrs younger than him is a testament to what kind of incredible athlete Nadal is. Ah, so it's "ridiculous" is it? Yes.The fact is that Rafael Nadal's last 2 slams came without a healthy Djokovic playing - that's a fact - period. if you think people don't notice that what can I say to you? I'd rather not argue and call names though - I didn't "downplay his achievement" I said he's the 3rd GOAT of all time ..........I didn't say he sucked did I? You are aware that Novak Djokovic's last 2 slams came without a healthy Nadal playing, right ? Also how injured was Djokovic during the RG20 is debatable considering he returned to play in Vienna just two weeks after RG was finished. And as I've already mentioned, Djokovic has competed in and won many tournaments when Nadal was out with injuries or got injured during the tournament so I am not sure why you are even trying to use that argument. I suppose it's your way of coping with Rafa now being a front runner in the G.O.A.T. race.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 30, 2022 17:44:09 GMT
The fact is that Rafael Nadal's last 2 slams came without a healthy Djokovic playing - that's a fact - period. if you think people don't notice that what can I say to you? I'd rather not argue and call names though - I didn't "downplay his achievement" I said he's the 3rd GOAT of all time ..........I didn't say he sucked did I? You are aware that Novak Djokovic's last 2 slams came without a healthy Nadal playing, right ? Also how injured was Djokovic during the RG20 is debatable considering he returned to play in Vienna just two weeks after RG was finished. Nadal playing through injuries and losing is not the same as someone being forbidden by the tournament from playing. No one thinks that is the same thing............they are different in every way. Now I'm not saying Djoko should have been allowed to play either tournament - read the thread - but that's not the same thing so again that's very specious reasoning ............purposely so...............also the word " debatable" does not mean what you think it means - the same way "ridiculous" does not mean what you think it means either........ no one is debating Djokovic's health at all here. When you start getting into "how injured was Djokovic really" you've entered into the realm of conspiracy theories and QANON of tennis mumbo jumbo. Agree to disagree..........
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Post by brancaleone on Jan 30, 2022 17:48:38 GMT
Nadal playing through injuries and losing is not the same as someone being forbidden by the tournament from playing. No one thinks that is the same thing............they are different in every way. Now I'm not saying Djoko should have been allowed to play either tournament - read the threadm - but that's not the same thing so again that's very specious reasoning ............purposely so...............also the word " debatable" does not mean what you think it means - the same way "ridiculous" does not mean what you think it means either........ no one is debating Djokovic's health at all here. When you start getting into "how injured was Djokovic really" you've entered into the realm of conspiracy theories and QANON of tennis mumbo jumbo. Agree to disagree.......... 
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