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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 20, 2020 22:47:41 GMT
I know she was always in the running with such a baity project but I really thought Best Actress would be more of a wide open race with Johannson, Theron, and even Erivo in the mix. I never really saw her dominating the awards the way she has.
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Post by stephen on Jan 20, 2020 22:51:27 GMT
I find it less surprising that she's been sweeping (because it is awards catnip: a loud and showy portrayal of a tragic real-life Hollywood figure in a basic-ass biopic format) and more than Johansson couldn't get a foothold, because she fits the mold of Best Actress more than Zellweger does and has had a banner year.
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Post by Good God on Jan 20, 2020 22:54:06 GMT
She hasn't. Yet.
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Post by finniussnrub on Jan 20, 2020 22:58:43 GMT
No because all other contenders besides Johansson didn't have strong enough films as contenders overall, even though most did as well or better than Judy, they weren't like The Favourite last year. Johansson I never thought had that much of a chance because she plays an actress whose gone through divorce, as an actress whose gone through divorce. She plays "herself" (and no I don't believe this personally), much in the same way Michael Keaton played "himself" (again don't believe that myself), who by all accounts should've won given he basically swept the critics and was in the best picture winner.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 20, 2020 23:03:56 GMT
I know she was always in the running with such a baity project but I really thought Best Actress would be more of a wide open race with Johannson, Theron, and even Erivo in the mix. I never really saw her dominating the awards the way she has. It's surprising in a sense that most Best Actress winners in this Preferential ballot system are attached to a Best Picture nominee. Judy only up for two Oscars. With that said, when I saw the film back in December, I instantly thought it was a Best Actress winner. She's an actress playing another actress. The performance requires her to have a very distinct accent and body posture. On top of that, it's devastating look at how her last year. It's completely up their alley as far as great performances.
Johansson is really good in Marriage Story (I would argue excellent), but it lacks that theatrical nature of Zellwegger.
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 20, 2020 23:30:16 GMT
Zellweger's only sweeping the televised awards. She wasn't the critics favorite. Lupita was.
I think Johansson's controversial support of Woody Allen did her no favors.
I also think that if this was a regular awards season, Saoirse Ronan would be a bigger threat. She would have gotten the SAG nod with the film doing well at the box office. SAG over performed with Bombshell and under performed with Little Women.
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Post by quetee on Jan 21, 2020 17:06:57 GMT
Zellweger's only sweeping the televised awards. She wasn't the critics favorite. Lupita was. I think Johansson's controversial support of Woody Allen did her no favors. I also think that if this was a regular awards season, Saoirse Ronan would be a bigger threat. She would have gotten the SAG nod with the film doing well at the box office. SAG over performed with Bombshell and under performed with Little Women. I agree that she is only doing well cause lupita didn't score a nod. The other four nominees didnt do that well with critics.
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Post by AKenjiB on Jan 28, 2020 9:22:59 GMT
Considering how underseen the film is, yeah I’m surprised, but it is a baity biopic, so not that surprising.
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Post by ibbi on Jan 29, 2020 14:05:21 GMT
Comeback story, biopic, playing tragic Hollywood legend, sings. I mean she's ticked every box. Has anyone even seen this movie? I don't think so. Does it matter? I don't think so.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 29, 2020 14:22:12 GMT
Yeah, somewhat. Before the season I just didn't quite think that a Renee Zellweger comeback would produce this much enthusiasm from the award bodies. Not to mention that it's not really even a comeback since she's already been doing stuff for a couple of years before it including the third Bridget Jones flick. The project just sounded like a small thing on paper, another "Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool" kind of a deal. But one should never underestimate the power these Oscar bait biopic roles have over the award voters. When you start thinking that they're more interested in less predictable options, they show you that they haven't really changed and that this stuff is still catnip for them.
Anyway, ibbi's right about the nature of the role too - a lot of boxes are sure ticked here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 14:26:02 GMT
Comeback story, biopic, playing tragic Hollywood legend, sings. I mean she's ticked every box. Has anyone even seen this movie? I don't think so. Does it matter? I don't think so. The film has made nearly $40 million worldwide, so yes, I'd wager that people have in fact seen it. This refrain about female-lead independent movies is really tired.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 29, 2020 15:20:20 GMT
I won't lie, I went back and forth between Renee and Scarlett. At one point, I thought Marriage Story would get more love than it has in terms of WINS and that that would help Scarlett win. So considering it hasn't, it's all Renee's. What a comeback.
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Post by ibbi on Jan 29, 2020 15:54:21 GMT
Comeback story, biopic, playing tragic Hollywood legend, sings. I mean she's ticked every box. Has anyone even seen this movie? I don't think so. Does it matter? I don't think so. The film has made nearly $40 million worldwide, so yes, I'd wager that people have in fact seen it. This refrain about female-lead independent movies is really tired. I'm not sure what I said had anything to do with female-lead independent movies. Is anyone talking about the film? She's probably the least discussed of the 10 nominated female performances, give or take Erivo, and she's the runaway frontrunner. I'm not saying it as a criticism. I loved her performance, and I think that might be the most criminally unappreciated movie of the year, but for this comeback story of this once big star in this movie about this all time star, I find the underwhelming attention it has received to be strange.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 16:08:28 GMT
The film has made nearly $40 million worldwide, so yes, I'd wager that people have in fact seen it. This refrain about female-lead independent movies is really tired. I'm not sure what I said had anything to do with female-lead independent movies. Is anyone talking about the film? She's probably the least discussed of the 10 nominated female performances, give or take Erivo, and she's the runaway frontrunner. I'm not saying it as a criticism. I loved her performance, and I think that might be the most criminally unappreciated movie of the year, but for this comeback story of this once big star in this movie about this all time star, I find the underwhelming attention it has received to be strange. I assumed you were speaking about a lack of interest in her film, not necessarily about her performance. I definitely disagree that she's the least-discussed of the nominees.
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