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Post by tastytomatoes on Mar 12, 2017 7:25:09 GMT
Bright (2017) Dir: David Ayer Starring: Will Smith, Noomi Rapace, Joel Edgerton Cost: $90M in 2016Okja (2017) Dir: Joon-ho Bong Starring: Tilda Swinton, Jake Gyllenhaal, Paul Dano, Lily Collins Cost: $50M in 2015War Machine (2017) Dir: David Michôd Starring: Brad Pitt, Tilda Swinton, Ben Kingsley, Will Poulter Cost: $60M in 2015The Discovery (2017) Dir: Charlie McDowell Starring: Rooney Mara, Riley Keough, Robert Redford Cost: ??The Irishman (2018) Dir: Martin Scorsese Starring: Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Joe Pesci Cost: ??? Anyone knows what happens after Netflix buys distribution rights for these movies? Do the films still get full theatrical release? Will there be DVD/blu-ray release? And.....am I the only one who feels that these films are "cheapened" when "Netflix" is attached on it? Would just like to hear your thoughts and more information about this.
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Post by jamesh5 on Mar 12, 2017 8:05:41 GMT
I assume that, like Beasts of No Nation they get a simultaneous theatrical run as they launch on Netflix - just small enough to qualify them for awards. And, if BONN is anything to go by, still no DVD release.
As much as different options of accessing new releases does excite me (as someone that pays a monthly Netflix fee) I think they need to adapt their strategy or face resistance from Hollywood in the awards game.
Amazon already have a BP nominee and multi-Oscar winner and I think they have a clause where it's at least 3 months after cinema release before it goes onto Amazon Video and then they usually have it as a pretty highly priced rental for a while before making it available to Amazon Prime users. Which is much more traditional and hasn't seen them pushed out of the awards game.
With that said I don't know anything about The Discovery but I'm not sure any of these films are headed for awards success anyway - Okja might get a querky screenplay nom or something and War Machine looked good on the surface but has already been panned. Light is a film about an Orc so yah.
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Post by quetee on Mar 12, 2017 18:14:12 GMT
I believe its a simultaneous release. It appears Netflix doesn't care about the box office, they are more concerned with offering its customers original content. They will not release the movies on DVD, what's the point? If you want to see it then you need to sign up for their service.
Personally, I prefer Amazon's business plan. They just want exclusive rights to the product. They give each movie three months in the theatre, which is more than enough time nowadays before they offer it to Prime members.
As for cheapen the movie, nah, they are spending top dollar on these movies so of course they care about the product. Look at blumhouse they release crappy looking movies all the time and you still gotta pay $16 bucks a pop to see if, if you choose to do so.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 12, 2017 18:39:44 GMT
Oof. $90M for Bright? That's pretty steep for that kinda film.
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Post by dmitriyuriev on Mar 12, 2017 18:51:33 GMT
You forgot to include their most recent purchase, "Mudbound" for 12 million. Poor producers before the purchase they were excited about the film possibly going to the Oscar, but with Netflix acquiring it, its pretty much dead n that regard.
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Post by Martin Stett on Mar 13, 2017 3:54:52 GMT
How does someone like me (no Netflix subscription) find a way to watch these movies anyway? Preferably a legal avenue.
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Post by cornnetto on Mar 13, 2017 4:28:08 GMT
Hard to know in advance, but I suspect that even those big project will get small release at best and no dvd release in market that netflix is available. You are certainly not, the theatrical experience/release and everything surrounding them (box office talk, award talk, etc..) is what make it more prestigious than an HBO tv show, what make a movie star more prestigious than a TV star, remove all of it and that will get away I think. If you are not talking about the actual content on screen obviously and just about the subjective aura around the movie. Netflix is significantly above, not even close to the strait to DVD/VOD release of yesterday thought, it is really not that much lower than a theatrical release, just a little bit. Personally as someone who has a Netflix account, I think it is great, you have the movie right away and everybody does around the world to. That is ideal in a way from a consumer point of view, but it is a bit sad if it is to a cost of not having the movie playing in theater near you.
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Post by tastytomatoes on Mar 13, 2017 11:19:51 GMT
Hard to know in advance, but I suspect that even those big project will get small release at best and no dvd release in market that netflix is available. A movie loses some value when it is not released in theatres. I mean after all movies are made to be released in cinemas! Imagine if Interstellar were released through Netflix...The experience is not as immersive or powerful watching on a computer/phone with headphones than in a cinema or even at home with large speakers. Netflix, as successful it may be, is not as known worldwide and among different age groups. Besides most people are just casual movie-goers who don't see the need to pay a monthly subscription of this kind. The international audience of these films are in fact limited.
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Post by dmitriyuriev on Mar 13, 2017 18:46:58 GMT
Hard to know in advance, but I suspect that even those big project will get small release at best and no dvd release in market that netflix is available. You are certainly not, the theatrical experience/release and everything surrounding them (box office talk, award talk, etc..) is what make it more prestigious than an HBO tv show, what make a movie star more prestigious than a TV star, remove all of it and that will get away I think. If you are not talking about the actual content on screen obviously and just about the subjective aura around the movie. Netflix is significantly above, not even close to the strait to DVD/VOD release of yesterday thought, it is really not that much lower than a theatrical release, just a little bit. Personally as someone who has a Netflix account, I think it is great, you have the movie right away and everybody does around the world to. That is ideal in a way from a consumer point of view, but it is a bit sad if it is to a cost of not having the movie playing in theater near you. Netflix is not created equally everywhere, they have different offerings in different countries.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 13, 2017 18:49:00 GMT
How does someone like me (no Netflix subscription) find a way to watch these movies anyway? Preferably a legal avenue. Get a Netflix account. Worst case scenario is to sign up for a month and then cancel.
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Post by cornnetto on Mar 13, 2017 18:49:55 GMT
But they are working to a more same everywhere Netflix in a near future, I'm not sure how possible it is to achieve. But for their original made by them stuff like those movies, it must be a same day world release in all Netflix countries right ?
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Post by quetee on Mar 13, 2017 19:05:15 GMT
Hard to know in advance, but I suspect that even those big project will get small release at best and no dvd release in market that netflix is available. A movie loses some value when it is not released in theatres. I mean after all movies are made to be released in cinemas! Imagine if Interstellar were released through Netflix...The experience is not as immersive or powerful watching on a computer/phone with headphones than in a cinema or even at home with large speakers. Netflix, as successful it may be, is not as known worldwide and among different age groups. Besides most people are just casual movie-goers who don't see the need to pay a monthly subscription of this kind. The international audience of these films are in fact limited. a lot the talent are going to netflix because the studio said no to either the project or the movie. Now Scorsese can make the movie he wants without worrying about test markets and box office.
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