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Post by The-Havok on Jul 25, 2019 14:13:10 GMT
Kek the madmen actually included Joker. Clown World indeed.
Watch it get a BP nom now
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 25, 2019 15:51:18 GMT
My completely random predictions:
Golden Lion: Wasp Network Grand Jury Prize: Martin Eden Silver Lion: Atom Egoyan, Guest of Honor Best Actor: Louis Garrel, J'accuse Best Actress: Ariane Ascaride, Gloria Mundi Special Jury Prize: Marriage Story Best Screenplay: Ema Marcello Mastroianni Award: Petr Kotlar, The Painted Bird
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 25, 2019 16:52:23 GMT
I thought About Endlessness was still filming. Didn't think we'd see it sooner than Cannes next year at the earliest. This is great news!
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Post by stephen on Jul 25, 2019 17:13:54 GMT
Fuck it, here's my pre-jury predix:
Golden Lion: Martin Eden Grand Jury Prize: Wasp Network Silver Lion for Best Director: Lou Ye, Saturday Fiction Volpi Cup for Best Actor: Mark Rylance, Waiting for the Barbarians Volpi Cup for Best Actress: Mariana De Girolamo, Ema Best Screenplay Award: Guest of Honour Special Jury Prize: Ad Astra Marcello Mastroianni Award: Eliza Scanlen, Babyteeth
I just can’t see the Polanski winning anything—but then, I didn’t think it would get into competition, either, so what do I know.
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Post by morton on Jul 25, 2019 17:22:45 GMT
I'm starting to get a little concerned about whatever's going on at Fox Searchlight. Wendy, Downhill, A Hidden Life, Lucy in the Sky and Nomadland are all nowhere to be seen and most were expected to be 2019 releases. Jojo Rabbit had to settle with a TIFF WP (no Venice and Telluride). Should we expect some of those titles to be late TIFF entries and/or Telluride, or...? Zeb31 is probably right, but I can't help but be concerned either. I guess every distributor can have an off-year, and it feels like this could be that for Fox Searchlight. I expect that Jojo Rabbit probably still gets in, but I don't think it's winning now. It just looks too divisive, and Fox Searchlight doesn't seem to be doing their usual campaigning with it, which to me seems to indicate that they know that have to be very careful with how it's handled. That just doesn't seem like a winner to me; although, again, they're so good at this, that I'm sure it will still get in. Or as Zeb31 pointed out, they also have A Hidden Life which might actually have a better chance if Jojo Rabbit misses the mark. Maybe it was naive of me to expect but I’m genuinely surprised that The Irishman isn’t here — I guess it’s still not ready? Maybe this means it lands at NYFF? Hyped for the new Kore-eda, Guerra, and Gray. As for awards banter ... well, statistically speaking we should have a handful of BP nominees and maybe a winner here ... and other than The Laundromat, I don’t see any ... which to an extent is exciting, Venice this year doesn’t feel like as much a dumping ground of English-language releases trying to kick-off an awards campaign. Yes, it still must not be ready. I hope it's ready for the NYFF, but at least the start is not very long after the 3 other big fall festivals, so I'm not sure if it will be ready by then either.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 25, 2019 17:31:40 GMT
Maybe it was naive of me to expect but I’m genuinely surprised that The Irishman isn’t here — I guess it’s still not ready? Maybe this means it lands at NYFF? Supposedly, it will not get a festival run. Not even in the NYFF.
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Post by quetee on Jul 25, 2019 18:11:10 GMT
Maybe it was naive of me to expect but I’m genuinely surprised that The Irishman isn’t here — I guess it’s still not ready? Maybe this means it lands at NYFF? Supposedly, it will not get a festival run. Not even in the NYFF. what about Tribeca?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 18:27:25 GMT
VENICE CLASSICS - These compete for "best restored film" for a jury composed of film students
Crash (1996, Canada) Current (1963, Hungary) The Criminal Life of Archibaldo de la Cruz (1955, Mexico) The Crossing of the Rhine (1960, France) Death of a Bureaucrat (1966, Cuba) Ecstasy (1932, Czechoslovokia) Francisca (1981, Portugal) The Grim Reaper (1962, Italy) The Hills of Marlik (1964, Iran) The House is Black (1962, Iran) The Incredible Shrinking Man (1957, US) Maria Zef (1981, Italy) Mauri (1988, New Zealand) New York, New York (1977, US) Out of the Blue (1980, Canada/US) Pigeon Shoot (1961, Italy) The Red Snowball Tree (1973, USSR) The Spider's Stratagem (1970, Italy) Way of a Gaucho (1952, US) The White Shiek (1952, Italy)
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 25, 2019 18:46:55 GMT
Supposedly, it will not get a festival run. Not even in the NYFF. what about Tribeca? I hope it won't premiere in Tribeca
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 20:18:07 GMT
KStew entering the Oscar race like
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 26, 2019 8:48:48 GMT
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Post by Zeb31 on Jul 26, 2019 11:30:11 GMT
pacinoyes is typing...
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 26, 2019 12:00:03 GMT
Zeb knows me too well .......it's ...............concerning Can we just get those 2 female directors dropped entirely from showing their movies films here because now it's just taking the focus away from the final work from a landmark director in cinema history - but maybe we could give them complimentary tickets to the screening? Sometimes I write stuff as a joke and it offends (see my Nicole Kidman/Wallaby comments in "Australia's Greatest Actress" ) and when I do that - fine, I apologize to whomever was offended and to our Outrage Culture in general. This time though I'm literally trying to be really offensive and yet I completely mean every word of it too........ Hmmmmmmmm (ducks, runs for cover)
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 29, 2019 3:12:36 GMT
Some running times..... About Endlessness - 73m The Laundromat - 95m Waiting for the Barbarians - 104m Joker - 118m J’accuse - 126m Marriage Story - 135m The Painted Bird - 169m More on that one, the adaptation of one of the most powerful books ever - I know pacinoyes has read it, anybody else? And here's its website that is packed with info, hundreds of production stills, and under Press a very detailed breakdown of their film schedule. They shot on/off from March '17 to July '18. Two different teasers, both 60 seconds - and heads up the second one has ridiculously loud breathing, otherwise looks kind of amazing, recalling Tarkovsky, Jancso, Diamonds of the Night.... And the cast! Harvey Keitel, Stellan Skarsgard, Barry Pepper, Udo Kier. And a clever cast addition, in the second teaser at 0:18, the Dan Duryea and Will Patton lookin' dude, is the main kid from Come and See — !!!
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Post by Zeb31 on Jul 29, 2019 3:58:57 GMT
Didn't expect this to be so short.
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Post by stephen on Jul 29, 2019 18:40:40 GMT
Ain't enough folks in here doing predictions. Come on, gang -- where's your sense of fun?
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 29, 2019 18:46:32 GMT
Ain't enough folks in here doing predictions. Come on, gang -- where's your sense of fun? I could see The Painted Bird going big at first glance. Joker is going nowhere in comp. One of the women directors is getting some shout out (probably The Perfect Candidate). Kore-eda gets shut out unless Deneuve wins. Soderbergh and Gray get shut out. Yonfan goes nowhere. One of the Italian movies will be the laughingstock of the festival.
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Post by stephen on Jul 29, 2019 18:58:40 GMT
Ain't enough folks in here doing predictions. Come on, gang -- where's your sense of fun? I could see The Painted Bird going big at first glance. Joker is going nowhere in comp. One of the women directors is getting some shout out (probably The Perfect Candidate). Kore-eda gets shut out unless Deneuve wins. Soderbergh and Gray get shut out. Yonfan goes nowhere. One of the Italian movies will be the laughingstock of the festival. The sheer confidence WB and Todd Phillips have in Joker astounds me. WB didn't even want to run A Star Is Born in Competition last year -- they almost never premiere their films in comp. But they are really digging their heels in with this. Either it's the most incredible amount of hubris imaginable, or their confidence is rightly placed. Very keen to see where it goes.
I do think people are sleeping on Waiting for the Barbarians. Guerra's a rising star and Lucretia Martel's last film shares some thematic similarities to it.
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Post by morton on Jul 29, 2019 19:09:12 GMT
I could see The Painted Bird going big at first glance. Joker is going nowhere in comp. One of the women directors is getting some shout out (probably The Perfect Candidate). Kore-eda gets shut out unless Deneuve wins. Soderbergh and Gray get shut out. Yonfan goes nowhere. One of the Italian movies will be the laughingstock of the festival. The sheer confidence WB and Todd Phillips have in Joker astounds me. WB didn't even want to run A Star Is Born in Competition last year -- they almost never premiere their films in comp. But they are really digging their heels in with this. Either it's the most incredible amount of hubris imaginable, or their confidence is rightly placed. Very keen to see where it goes.
I do think people are sleeping on Waiting for the Barbarians. Guerra's a rising star and Lucretia Martel's last film shares some thematic similarities to it.
I don't expect any of the American films to win anything big with this jury, maybe Marriage Story, but like the Grand Jury Prize definitely not the Golden Lion, and really can't see Johansson or Driver winning. Definitely agree about Joker though which is the biggest head scratch for me. Venice seems like one of the worst festivals for it to go to especially with this jury, and I really don't understand what Warner Brothers is doing except that maybe Todd Phillips demanded that it get the full awards run treatment or something. I'm sure that Joaquin Phoenix will be praised for his work, and maybe even win depending on the competition. Joker may also do well during the televised awards especially if last year was anything to go by with Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book winning several big awards, but why bring it to Venice when Telluride, Toronto, and even New York seem like a better fit.
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Post by stephen on Jul 29, 2019 20:05:32 GMT
I don't expect any of the American films to win anything big with this jury, maybe Marriage Story, but like the Grand Jury Prize definitely not the Golden Lion, and really can't see Johansson or Driver winning. Definitely agree about Joker though which is the biggest head scratch for me. Venice seems like one of the worst festivals for it to go to especially with this jury, and I really don't understand what Warner Brothers is doing except that maybe Todd Phillips demanded that it get the full awards run treatment or something. I'm sure that Joaquin Phoenix will be praised for his work, and maybe even win depending on the competition. Joker may also do well during the televised awards especially if last year was anything to go by with Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book winning several big awards, but why bring it to Venice when Telluride, Toronto, and even New York seem like a better fit. To be fair, we don't know the full makeup of the jury. And I'm not sure how Martel will be as a jury president -- will she be a domineering force or will she be laissez-faire? And perhaps there will be a thunderously vocal member of the jury, Dolan-style, whom they try to placate.
With that said, how hilarious would it be if Martel turned out to be a huge Joker fan?
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 29, 2019 20:10:39 GMT
Didn't expect this to be so short. Same here. That doesn't look pretty good.
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Post by Zeb31 on Jul 29, 2019 20:40:47 GMT
Didn't expect this to be so short. Same here. That doesn't look pretty good. It's not a bad thing in and of itself. If it means Soderbergh trimmed all the fat and delivered quality I'm all for it.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 29, 2019 21:09:10 GMT
Same here. That doesn't look pretty good. It's not a bad thing in and of itself. If it means Soderbergh trimmed all the fat and delivered quality I'm all for it. If that means it's sharp and fast paced, I'm ok with it.
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Post by morton on Jul 29, 2019 21:23:30 GMT
I don't expect any of the American films to win anything big with this jury, maybe Marriage Story, but like the Grand Jury Prize definitely not the Golden Lion, and really can't see Johansson or Driver winning. Definitely agree about Joker though which is the biggest head scratch for me. Venice seems like one of the worst festivals for it to go to especially with this jury, and I really don't understand what Warner Brothers is doing except that maybe Todd Phillips demanded that it get the full awards run treatment or something. I'm sure that Joaquin Phoenix will be praised for his work, and maybe even win depending on the competition. Joker may also do well during the televised awards especially if last year was anything to go by with Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book winning several big awards, but why bring it to Venice when Telluride, Toronto, and even New York seem like a better fit. To be fair, we don't know the full makeup of the jury. And I'm not sure how Martel will be as a jury president -- will she be a domineering force or will she be laissez-faire? And perhaps there will be a thunderously vocal member of the jury, Dolan-style, whom they try to placate.
With that said, how hilarious would it be if Martel turned out to be a huge Joker fan?
Sorry I thought this was the full jury list. I see that Hend Sabry is a member too. (Sorry she's a member of the Debut Works panel.) I'm not sure how many more people will be added later.
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Post by avnermoriarti on Jul 30, 2019 5:05:57 GMT
Isn't Joker supposedly that unique take on the character ? I can see Martel liking it, she had a meeting with Marvel people anyways, she has the curiosity at least. And the Joker, supposedly wanders through the city in catatonic state, just like the lead of The Headless Woman, maybe she likes it....
If Soderberg can do something neat and condense such a rich case in 90min, I'm all for it, cross fingers doesn't have the Contagion treatment where you can see all the possibilities and ambition and in the end goes the easy route.
Golden Lion: Martin Eden Grand Jury Prize: The Painted Bird Special Jury Prize: Waiting for the Barbarians Silver Lion: Olivier Assayas, Wasp Network Actor: Louis Garrel, J'Accuse Actress: Catherine Deneuve, The Truth Screenplay: Ema Mastroianni Award: Eiza Scanlen, Babyteeth
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