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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 14:44:30 GMT
Which scenes wasnt in Redux or Theatrical cut?
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Apr 8, 2019 15:04:31 GMT
God, Redux was utter shit.. I don't wanna imagine what this one's gonna be like.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 15:21:39 GMT
It should be shorter than Redux because Coppola wasnt satisfied with both cuts. I wonder what new will be added consider as raw cut was around five hours long.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 8, 2019 17:31:59 GMT
It's not a new cut, nothing is being added - it's just a remaster - I don't think they are still calling it The Final Cut. Not sure which version it is.
I prefer the original but the Redux is pretty amazing too - some of those added scenes are fantastic - the Brando "How's it smell to you soldier?" is a classic. Some people don't like it because it changes the pacing and stuff but it's great to me too.
Both are masterpieces.
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Post by stephen on Apr 8, 2019 17:41:02 GMT
It's not a new cut, nothing is being added - it's just a remaster - I don't think they are still calling it The Final Cut. Not sure which version it is. I prefer the original but the Redux is pretty amazing too - some of those added scenes are fantastic - the Brando "How's it smell to you soldier?" is a classic. Some people don't like it because it changes the pacing and stuff but it's great to me too. Both are masterpieces. I actually had been thinking of doing a personal recut of the Redux to put it more in line with the spirit of the original, but keeping some of the Redux scenes. So if it's true Coppola is simply doing a remaster, maybe I'll continue on with this plan.
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 8, 2019 19:57:37 GMT
I think he's recutting it once again. If I remember well, the new (and final) cut will be shorter than the redux but having kept some of the redux scenes. Quite like the one stephen wants to do.
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Post by Film Socialism on Apr 8, 2019 23:55:22 GMT
redux is way better so gotta peep this too
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 22, 2019 5:06:22 GMT
Film Socialism, stephen, TerryMontana, theycallmemrfish, @complex - apparently...........things have changed......... A trusted industry friend told me a while back that according to his understanding Final Cut was an in-betweener — a split-the-difference version that lies between the pit of man’s fears…no, that lies between the original 147-minute version and the 202-minute Redux version. 183 minutes means Final Cut is 19 minutes shorter than the 202-minute Redux and 36 minutes longer than the original 70mm Ziegfeld version that ran 147 minutes. So Final Cut will include the French plantation sequence — just not as much. And the rescuing the Playboy bunnies sequence — just not as much. And so on. hollywood-elsewhere.com/2019/04/last-minute-final-cut-flip-around/
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 22, 2019 5:25:39 GMT
Film Socialism, stephen, TerryMontana, theycallmemrfish, @complex - apparently...........things have changed......... A trusted industry friend told me a while back that according to his understanding Final Cut was an in-betweener — a split-the-difference version that lies between the pit of man’s fears…no, that lies between the original 147-minute version and the 202-minute Redux version. 183 minutes means Final Cut is 19 minutes shorter than the 202-minute Redux and 36 minutes longer than the original 70mm Ziegfeld version that ran 147 minutes. So Final Cut will include the French plantation sequence — just not as much. And the rescuing the Playboy bunnies sequence — just not as much. And so on. hollywood-elsewhere.com/2019/04/last-minute-final-cut-flip-around/ It mentions two scenes I would have no objections if he decided to remove them completely.
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Post by Viced on Apr 22, 2019 15:37:18 GMT
Have things changed? I thought that's exactly what Coppola said it was when the news came out:
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Apr 22, 2019 15:47:30 GMT
Film Socialism , stephen , TerryMontana , theycallmemrfish , @complex - apparently...........things have changed......... A trusted industry friend told me a while back that according to his understanding Final Cut was an in-betweener — a split-the-difference version that lies between the pit of man’s fears…no, that lies between the original 147-minute version and the 202-minute Redux version. 183 minutes means Final Cut is 19 minutes shorter than the 202-minute Redux and 36 minutes longer than the original 70mm Ziegfeld version that ran 147 minutes. So Final Cut will include the French plantation sequence — just not as much. And the rescuing the Playboy bunnies sequence — just not as much. And so on. hollywood-elsewhere.com/2019/04/last-minute-final-cut-flip-around/ Yeah, he should have completely nixed the Bunny Rescue.
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 22, 2019 16:37:20 GMT
Have things changed? I thought that's exactly what Coppola said it was when the news came out: Yeah, that's how I also remember it.
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Post by Leo_The_Last on Apr 29, 2019 3:12:16 GMT
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Post by Leo_The_Last on Apr 29, 2019 23:15:04 GMT
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Post by Mattsby on Apr 30, 2019 23:22:33 GMT
I'm looking forward as well to whenever Cotton Club Encore gets released; Deadline last month said its rights issues with MGM were all cleared up so let's gooo.
To recap - one site's rave after the Telluride screening in late 2017 --
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Post by TerryMontana on May 1, 2019 15:49:41 GMT
Of course it would get raves!! Either way, it's Apocalypse Now. Many people would give it raves even if it actually sucked...
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 1, 2019 16:00:10 GMT
Thank fuck.
Noooooo. Those stupid Kilgore scenes completely ruin what was one of the greatest exits of a character in all of cinema. Nothing more harrowing than Kilgore telling a story of brutal violence and then ending it with a rather solemn "some day this war's gonna end" and then a short little strut off the screen. UGH!
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Post by TerryMontana on May 1, 2019 16:07:05 GMT
So the French thing is still in??
Damn...
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Post by pacinoyes on May 1, 2019 23:37:45 GMT
I am a little weird on this - the French Plantation scene works for me and I don't mind the added Kilgore stuff but this, this pisses me off Kurtz Reads Time Magazine is OUT.
I love that scene. Wtf!!
In general I love both AN's anyway but I always prefer the original cut here - which I assume will always be available - the more you explain the less AN works and all the changes make more narrative sense but mess with the headfnck aspect of it but ...........yeah............love Redux and I'll probably love this anyway, even if not as much.........
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Post by TerryMontana on May 2, 2019 5:34:56 GMT
I am a little weird on this - the French Plantation scene works for me and I don't mind the added Kilgore stuff but this, this pisses me off Kurtz Reads Time Magazine is OUT.I love that scene. Wtf!! This.
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