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Post by Allenism on Mar 2, 2017 2:38:33 GMT
A small gem that totally got lost in the awards season shuffle (though I'm belatedly ecstatic that it nabbed a Best Original Screenplay nod). I haven't seen "Beginners", but Mill's sensibility as a writer and director clicked with me immediately here. I loved how the film managed to balance the respective vignettes of each character with the larger telling of America's cultural and societal growing pains during the late 70s and onward. The aforementioned writing and directing are the film's core strengths, but the stirring score and Sean Porter's crystalline cinematography really add to the film's vivid evocation of time and place. The performances are also superb, I would've gladly seen all three women nominated in their corresponding categories, and Zumann is also something of a revelation as the story's wide-eyed view of how America's cultural/sexual/political revolutions percolated into communities like his own.
Anyways, noms/wins? How would you rank the main female trio?
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Post by jakob on Mar 2, 2017 3:24:54 GMT
It's in my Top 5 of last year!
I nominate it for
Best Picture
Best Director (Top 10)
Best Actress- Bening
Best Supporting Actress- Gerwig
Best Supporting Actress- Fanning (Top 10)
Best Original Screenplay**
Best Editing (Top 10)
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Post by Javi on Mar 2, 2017 3:30:47 GMT
A small gem that totally got lost in the awards season shuffle (though I'm belatedly ecstatic that it nabbed a Best Original Screenplay nod). I haven't seen "Beginners", but Mill's sensibility as a writer and director clicked with me immediately here. I loved how the film managed to balance the respective vignettes of each character with the larger telling of America's cultural and societal growing pains during the late 70s and onward. The aforementioned writing and directing are the film's core strengths, but the stirring score and Sean Porter's crystalline cinematography really add to the film's vivid evocation of time and place. The performances are also superb, I would've gladly seen all three women nominated in their corresponding categories, and Zumann is also something of a revelation as the story's wide-eyed view of how America's cultural/sexual/political revolutions percolated into communities like his own. Anyways, noms/wins? How would you rank the main female trio? Beautiful film about people who think they know themselves. Annette Bening is extraordinary, the best she's ever been - in any other year she'd be my win. Gerwig is fantastic too. Easily my favorite American "indie" of 2016 (I don't count The Witch since it feels like something else entirely). |
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Post by bobbystarks on Mar 2, 2017 3:33:08 GMT
It's one of those films that gets better the more I think about it. Can't wait to rewatch it.
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Post by bob-coppola on Mar 2, 2017 3:41:38 GMT
This is one my favorite movies of the past year, why did it fly under everyone's radar? The ensemble and writing is top notch, Mills really knows how to balance the light humor and deep feelings. You shoud definetly look up Beginners, it's even better.
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Post by DeepArcher on Mar 2, 2017 3:47:57 GMT
Yep yep yep. And I'd highly recommend Beginners, which is extremely similar in nature to 20th Century Women, and is just as good if not better.
As for noms and wins, I guess that'd look something like:
Best Picture (#7)
Best Actress -- Annette Bening (#2, to Emma Stone)
Best Original Screenplay (#2, to Paterson)
I'd also probably throw in something for Editing, and Soundtrack if I'd consider that a category. Oh, and Ensemble for sure.
As for ranking the main female trio, I'd say: Bening > Gerwig > Fanning. The entire main five are all incredible.
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Post by evilbliss on Mar 2, 2017 11:10:59 GMT
Was it, though?
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Post by DanQuixote on Mar 2, 2017 12:06:09 GMT
Totally agree with you. It really took me by surprise. It's a rare film that speaks to my personal philosophy and gives me new perspective on aspects of life. It's really fucking good.
Best Motion Picture of the Year
Best Actress in a Leading Role - Annette Bening
Best Actress in a Supporting Role - Greta Gerwig
Best Writing, Original Screenplay
Best Performance by an Ensemble Cast
5 Nominations, 0 Wins
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 2, 2017 12:10:16 GMT
I loved the performances but didn't care much for he movie as a whole. Had some great individual scenes though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 12:14:57 GMT
No, it wasnt He just created this thread with that title for no reason |
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Mar 2, 2017 12:18:05 GMT
Gerwig was amazing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 13:01:20 GMT
I thought it was lackluster. I adore Beginners but this one felt forced, academic and hollow. I kinda understand why some love it because the film has this certain "fill in the blanks with your personal stories" melancholy evocation but that was not enough for me. It was more like an eh ok essay than a full fledged film. What really amazes me is that there are people who claim this is Annette Bening's career best. Uhm, no. Not even close. This is a role Annette Bening could play in her sleep. She is perfectly fine as always but hell no is this her best performance.
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Post by thomasjerome on Mar 2, 2017 13:09:57 GMT
Noms:
Best Picture
Best Actress (Annette Bening)
Best Original Screenplay
Win:
Best Supporting Actress (Greta Gerwig)
It's one of my favorites of the year.
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Post by Allenism on Mar 2, 2017 14:14:36 GMT
This is one my favorite movies of the past year, why did it fly under everyone's radar? The ensemble and writing is top notch, Mills really knows how to balance the light humor and deep feelings. You shoud definetly look up Beginners, it's even better. I wasn't in any rush to see Beginners because from a distance it just looked offputtingly twee and I'm generally indifferent to McGregor. But I might give it a shot now. |
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Post by Allenism on Mar 2, 2017 14:20:39 GMT
I thought it was lackluster. I adore Beginners but this one felt forced, academic and hollow. I kinda understand why some love it because the film has this certain "fill in the blanks with your personal stories" melancholy evocation but that was not enough for me. It was more like an eh ok essay than a full fledged film. What really amazes me is that there are people who claim this is Annette Bening's career best. Uhm, no. Not even close. This is a role Annette Bening could play in her sleep. She is perfectly fine as always but hell no is this her best performance. I haven't seen all of the Bening's performance, but this is certainly one of her better ones at least. I don't think she phoned it in, if anything it's a noticeably more relaxed and interior performance compared to her others. She exuded just the right amount of maternal warmth without being maudlin, but also thoughtfully delineated Dorothea's own internal struggle to define herself as a woman when there was no real push to do so for most of her life. |
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Post by bob-coppola on Mar 2, 2017 15:26:35 GMT
This is one my favorite movies of the past year, why did it fly under everyone's radar? The ensemble and writing is top notch, Mills really knows how to balance the light humor and deep feelings. You shoud definetly look up Beginners, it's even better. I wasn't in any rush to see Beginners because from a distance it just looked offputtingly twee and I'm generally indifferent to McGregor. But I might give it a shot now. It's more dramatic and has less humor, but it's as good. Strong ensemble as well. |
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Post by sirjeremy on Mar 2, 2017 20:04:34 GMT
One of the best films of the past few years:
Best Picture*
Best Director
Best Original Screenplay*
Best Actress - Annette Bening*
Best Score
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 12:59:20 GMT
Allenism - It's currently in my top five films of the decade... BEST PICTURE* BEST DIRECTOR, Mike Mills BEST ACTRESS, Annette Bening* BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR, Billy Crudup BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS, Elle Fanning BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS, Greta Gerwig* BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY* BEST FILM EDITING* 8 nominations and 5 wins.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jun 15, 2018 9:03:52 GMT
Nah, it's a boring turd. This board loves hyping up those small flukey independent dramas: From Moonlight, to Carol, to The Florida Project, to Lady Bird, to this. I don't think any of those will be classics. But 20th Century Women might be the worst of all of those, with the exception of Lady Bird.
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