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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 28, 2019 15:44:45 GMT
Even will Ali’s dominance I wouldn’t be that shocked if Elliott pulls a Coburn and wins unexpectedly with zero precursors.
As for the other categories, I don’t really see an upset occurring in best actor or actress. I think Close is pretty locked in now and actor is between Malek and Bale. I suppose Cooper or Dafoe could feasibly still upset but either would be a genuine shocker.
Lastly is Supporting actress where the only winner that would truly shock me would be Emma Stone. I honestly wouldn’t even be that surprised if Marina de Tavira ended up winning.
In the end I’m expecting an ‘upset’ in at least one acting category.
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Jan 28, 2019 15:55:39 GMT
Malek Close Ali King
This seems like a safe bet
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Post by morton on Jan 28, 2019 16:03:35 GMT
Sadly they're probably pretty much sewn up except for Best Supporting Actress which I really don't have a clue. King makes the most sense to me on paper, but I really think that de Tavira could end up winning because of the love for Roma. I know people are saying that the nomination was her reward, which it might be, but she was barely on the award radar, and yet there was enough passion for her to get in over Blunt, Foy, Kidman, etc. Normally if there was a clear front-runner like Allison Janney last year, then I would pretty much dismiss the idea of someone like de Tavira being able to win. However, this is a very strange year in this category, and the conditions are perfect for de Tevira to pull off another surprise.
King might be the overwhelming critics favorite and well liked and respected, but she still missed SAG and BAFTA, and If Beale Street Could Talk missed Best Picture. She's the front-runner to me right now, but she's definitely not a lock like Close or Ali.
As for the other categories, I think Best Actress and Best Supporting Actor are done now.
Best Actor is probably Malek, but depending on how the Singer factor goes, he could still end up losing probably to Bale. However, I think there's a very, very small possibility that if Cooper does more campaigning like making a surprise appearance to sing with Lady Gaga the other night, maybe he could pull it off. Probably not though, but there's still almost a month of voting where anything could happen.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jan 28, 2019 16:05:07 GMT
As it stands right now, I think Close and / or Ali losing would be the only thing that could truly be called an upset, as I think Bale v Malek and King v Wiesz v Adams v de Tavira are still up in the air.
So from the Ali & Close perspectives, I don't really see any upsets happening.
If Malek has taken BAFTA too, then I reckon that race is over.
Supporting actress should be still up in the air come oscar night.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 28, 2019 16:14:05 GMT
People on here kind of look past Ali and how great Oscar is being with him - he's better here than he was in Moonlight, it's a great performance and people say stupid stuff like Grant should win - and he is fine and good, but Ali really deserves it - no one is in the league of that performance in the category imo. It's great.
What is interesting Bale/Malek - Bale (best of category) is the greater performance but both of these are special performances in films that are just not good (and Dafoe is better than Malek). If Bale wins he joins DDL as the only UK actor ever - think of that - to have 2 Oscars where at least 1 is BA - that is a historic win if he wins it, I don't know that they want to give him 2 but.......he deserves 2 though.
Close will win
Supporting Actress is up in the air.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 28, 2019 16:33:22 GMT
Kinda seems like a safe set for me - Malek, Close, Ali, King. But I sure think that something interesting may happen in the Actor and Supporting Actress categories. Not the other two though.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 28, 2019 16:44:49 GMT
People on here kind of look past Ali and how great Oscar is being with him - he's better here than he was in Moonlight, it's a great performance and people say stupid stuff like Grant should win - and he is fine and good, but Ali really deserves it - no one is in the league of that performance in the category imo. It's great. What is interesting Bale/Malek - Bale (best of category) is the greater performance but both of these are special performances in films that are just not good (and Dafoe is better than Malek). If Bale wins he joins DDL as the only UK actor ever - think of that - to have 2 Oscars where at least 1 is BA - that is a historic win if he wins it, I don't know that they want to give him 2 but.......he deserves 2 though. Close will win Supporting Actress is up in the air. I completely agree with you on Ali. My post ha nothing to do with the performance itself. I just think people underestimate the chances the Academy will go with a complelty out of left field upset.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 28, 2019 16:48:30 GMT
Nah. It's definitely between Bale and Malek... Close or Colman... Ali...
I guess I can see Roma taking Supporting Actress, though. Still think that one's likely going to King, but maybe a case of a wide-open vote let's the third party candidate win.
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Post by jasonjoliepitt on Jan 28, 2019 17:22:52 GMT
Yes. Hoping Colman to upset.
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Post by bruinjoe96 on Jan 28, 2019 17:37:28 GMT
Best Actor - Malek vs Bale, although the edge to Malek, I think he takes BAFTA because Freddy Mercury was a British icon.
Best Actress - Close vs Colman, the edge to Close, not sure if Colman winning the BAFTA changes my mind.
Best Supporting Actor - Ali all the way, he's locked at this point
Best Supporting Actress - I have King winning, but I could totally see Weisz winning since she's probably the favorite to win BAFTA
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Post by speeders on Jan 28, 2019 18:27:03 GMT
I think the BAFTA will be more relevant to the Oscars this year than often before...
Best Actor - The BAFTA confirms the winner here. If Malek wins, it's over. However, if Bale wins, Bohemian Rhapsody's luck has run out and Bale will repeat.
Best Actress - Close is the frontrunner right now but if Colman wins the BAFTA I think she'll give Close a run for her money and might prevail.
Best Supporting Actor - Ali feels like the closest lock of the four categories. Not even an unlikely Grant BAFTA win could upset Ali at the Oscars.
Best Supporting Actress - SAGs seem to confirm Adams is out thankfully! King wasn't even nominated for SAG or BAFTA and her film wasn't nominated in any other top 6 categories and feels generally passionless right now. Weisz looks like a frontrunner to win the BAFTA (but vote splitting between her and Stone may continue to hurt them) and that could likely pave the road to an Oscar win.
This speculation begs the question, Which is likelier:
Three previous winners: Bale, Ali and Weisz? or Four American winners: Malek, Close, Ali and King (or Adams)?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 28, 2019 19:27:32 GMT
does anyone ever expect an upset? I mean they're upsets for a reason I don't think Best Actor is locked down yet. If Bale wins BAFTA then it'll be a head-to-head race but if Malek wins he's pretty much sown up his win. As for Actress, I could still see Colman upsetting if she takes BAFTA but she's quickly becoming a longshot. Supporting Actor is Ali's to lose. Again, I could see Grant upset but I think it's really unlikely even if he wins at BAFTA (which is also unlikely). Supporting Actress is weird this year. Adams was hailed as a frontrunner but she hasn't made good on those predictions, King sounds great on paper but she was snubbed by two major precursors and there hasn't been much passion for Beale Street all season, and then we have Weisz who you'd think would have been able to break through and win something by now if she was a mounting a major threat but she hasn't yet. I assume she'll win at BAFTA but will that be too little too late? There isn't a clear frontrunner in this race. I mean if you go by number of wins than King would be the frontrunner but she's also hit a lot of obstacles over the last few weeks.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jan 28, 2019 19:41:20 GMT
I still think Colman has a shot if Academy members start to realize that they’ve never even heard of The Wife, but at this point she’d certainly be an upset. And, unfortunately, not one that I’m predicting anymore.
Neither Malek nor Bale would be an upset — it’s a two-horse race between them and I doubt BAFTA would change that very much, especially if Bale wins. I could feasibly see either one winning it, but I don’t see an upset happening.
Ali is a lock. So that one’s a no.
And with supporting actress, well, it’s kind of hard to call anything an upset when there’s no consensus frontrunner. I still think it’s King’s to lose and will continue to predict her for now, but she’s still not such an obvious choice that a loss would necessarily be an upset.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jan 28, 2019 19:45:54 GMT
If anybody really believes that Marina de Tavira can win the current betting odds are 33/1. Put some down on her.
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Post by chris3 on Jan 28, 2019 20:15:22 GMT
People on here kind of look past Ali and how great Oscar is being with him - he's better here than he was in Moonlight, it's a great performance and people say stupid stuff like Grant should win - and he is fine and good, but Ali really deserves it - no one is in the league of that performance in the category imo. It's great. Totally agreed. I didn't like Green Book but Ali was INCREDIBLE in it, even better than his great turn in Moonlight. It's probably my favorite performance of the year. Disagree on Bale v. Malek. I know a lot of people criticize Malek for simply doing a Freddie Mercury impression, but I don't know what they're talking about. Throughout the majority of the film he doesn't look like Mercury and barely even sounds like Mercury. But Malek creates a very good character arc for the film, and by the third act I was surprisingly emotionally connected to his performance despite the limitations imposed on it by the insultingly hackneyed, contrived script. Mercury's arc in the film is so by-the-numbers cliche, and yet somehow Malek makes it work. I see a real soul through his eyes, one fraught with arrogance and self-doubt in equal measure, and it takes a truly gifted actor (like Ali) to achieve this with such bad material. And then, after spending two hours building up the performance, the film ends with the major payoff of Malek finally going FULL Freddie Mercury in that Live Aid set and actually doing the impression, and doing it PERFECTLY. For all the film's major issues, it was a very good structural decision to treat the narrative like some superhero origin story, where we're witnessing the realization of an icon. Malek (his back to the camera) gives us some nice subtle Mercury movements in that opening credit sequence that foreshadow the impression, but it takes the whole movie for that full-on impression to arrive, and he fucking knocks it out of the park. It's not just that he mimics the movements perfectly (he does), but more importantly, he projects that fearless, magnificent confidence that defines Mercury's unbeatable stage presence. Malek is having just as much fun as Mercury was having at the real show, and that exuberance is absolutely infectious. I spent two hours rolling my eyes at the film's overall mediocrity, but that ending gave me goosebumps and it was all because of Malek. Bale, on the other hand, is doing absolutely nothing but a one-dimensional, SNL-level Cheney impersonation. Like Malek, the script gives him very little to work with, and yet unlike Malek he does nothing to elevate the material. He talks in Cheney's cadence and looks quietly sinister in that particular Cheney way. That's it. It's such a horribly one-note performance that he gets upstaged by Steve Carell of all people. He's not aggressively terrible like Amy Adams (who I usually love btw), just terribly bland. Not a single thing about that movie deserves any awards consideration whatsoever, except a Razzie for McKay's direction. Anyway, my predictions are Malek for Actor (if controversy didn't ruin it for Casey Affleck then controversy-by-association won't ruin it for Malek), Close for Actress, Ali for Supporting Actor, and King for Supporting Actress (though I'll do somersaults in my living room if de Tavira gets a surprise win).
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Post by Javi on Jan 28, 2019 20:35:48 GMT
I think the BAFTA will be more relevant to the Oscars this year than often before... Best Actor - The BAFTA confirms the winner here. If Malek wins, it's over. However, if Bale wins, Bohemian Rhapsody's luck has run out and Bale will repeat. Best Actress - Close is the frontrunner right now but if Colman wins the BAFTA I think she'll give Close a run for her money and might prevail. Best Supporting Actor - Ali feels like the closest lock of the four categories. Not even an unlikely Grant BAFTA win could upset Ali at the Oscars. Best Supporting Actress - SAGs seem to confirm Adams is out thankfully! King wasn't even nominated for SAG or BAFTA and her film wasn't nominated in any other top 6 categories and feels generally passionless right now. Weisz looks like a frontrunner to win the BAFTA (but vote splitting between her and Stone may continue to hurt them) and that could likely pave the road to an Oscar win. This speculation begs the question, Which is likelier: Three previous winners: Bale, Ali and Weisz? or Four American winners: Malek, Close, Ali and King (or Adams)? I agree with this. BAFTA and Oscar seem closely linked this year. They both went for more "artsy" fare like Cold War when the American awards were busy hailing A Quiet Place and Crazy Rich Asians. People underestimate the impact that an Olivia Colman win could have at BAFTA. Sure, Close has the Globe and she has SAG. Julie Christie was in a similar position in 2007 (and her performance was much more acclaimed than Close's: she had swept the critics), then Cotillard took BAFTA and that was it. BAFTA was all she needed. (In addition, Colman also has a Globe, as well as LA and NSFC prizes). My feeling is that the international voters will favor, well... The Favourite on the acting front (and also screenplay). BAFTA will probably decide Best Actor. They will also give a massive push to Rachel Weisz, who then becomes a top 2 contender to win the thing alongside King.
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Post by quetee on Jan 28, 2019 20:49:48 GMT
I still think Colman has a shot if Academy members start to realize that they’ve never even heard of The Wife, but at this point she’d certainly be an upset. And, unfortunately, not one that I’m predicting anymore. Neither Malek nor Bale would be an upset — it’s a two-horse race between them and I doubt BAFTA would change that very much, especially if Bale wins. I could feasibly see either one winning it, but I don’t see an upset happening. Ali is a lock. So that one’s a no. And with supporting actress, well, it’s kind of hard to call anything an upset when there’s no consensus frontrunner. I still think it’s King’s to lose and will continue to predict her for now, but she’s still not such an obvious choice that a loss would necessarily be an upset. Lmao... did you see the wife? No she's at home.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jan 28, 2019 20:54:58 GMT
Lmao... did you see the wife? I haven't, I still haven't heard a word about it outside of this forum discussing Close's awards chances, and nothing I've heard about it has given me any desire to seek it out. Doubt I'll ever see it, to be honest.
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Post by flasuss on Jan 28, 2019 21:02:23 GMT
Kinda seems like a safe set for me - Malek, Close, Ali, King.
If a candidate didn't get nominated for Bafta and SAG and is the only nominee in her category to not be in a BP nominee, describe her as a safe bet is pure non-sense.
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Post by sirjeremy on Jan 28, 2019 21:31:08 GMT
No, because upsets very rarely happen these days so the Academy will play it safe by awarding Malek, Close, Ali and King.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 21:41:56 GMT
No, because upsets very rarely happen these days so the Academy will play it safe by awarding Malek, Close, Ali and King. I mean, Moonlight winning Best Picture seems to me like one of the biggest upsets in the history of the Oscars, and that happened pretty recently. At this point I wouldn't underestimate the Academy's increasingly frantic desire to maximize their ability to pat themselves on the back and minimize backlash as much as possible. Obviously they have already screwed this up multiple times leading into this year (the Best Popular Film debacle, the Kevin Hart nonsense, etc.), and so I'd almost expect them to go for some things that aren't as expected, if that makes sense.
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