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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 18:10:11 GMT
Never Look Away for Best Cinematography is (to me) even more surprising than Marina de Tavira for Best Supporting Actress. Cuarón's sweet shout-outs at all of the awards shows obviously did the trick, but Never Look Away had absolutely no buzz in any category outside of Foreign Language Film. I didn't even realize it was eligible for other awards...
Won't You Be My Neighbor? missing for Best Documentary is the most shocking snub, but remember when this branch snubbed the predicted frontrunner, Jane, just last year? There are no locks in this category, ever.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 22, 2019 18:18:20 GMT
shocking nod : Marina de Tavira
shocking snub : Emily Blunt x 2 / Bradley Cooper for best director
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Post by stephen on Jan 22, 2019 18:33:24 GMT
Most shocking nod? Definitely Marina de Tavira. She had zero precursors. I guess Never Look Away is up there as well, but in terms of sheer profile, it's de Tavira.
Most shocking snub? Cooper, but I'd also say Hurwitz as well.
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Post by Kings_Requiem on Jan 22, 2019 18:45:03 GMT
It's definitely Won't You Be My Neighbor? not getting in for Documentary when practically everyone thought it was the front-runner to win.
I think Burning not getting nominated for Foreign film is a pretty big snub as well.
As for shocking nomination... gotta be Marina de Tavira. It's really the only answer. She wasn't nominated by literally ANY other awards group.
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Post by quetee on Jan 22, 2019 18:50:21 GMT
Marina for nod and Won't for snub.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 22, 2019 19:00:26 GMT
Surprises:
Did NOT see de Tavira, Never Look Away for cinematography, Pawlikowski, or Buster Scruggs coming. De Tavira makes sense in hindsight because of how much they liked Roma but it's still unprecedented as hell. She didn't hit any precursors or get any support from the critics. She's been out of the race all season. Never Look Away only makes sense because of Deschanel's name recognition. I guess this category didn't have many standouts and Deschanel's reputation among his peers benefited from that. When in doubt, nominate someone you know, even if it's for a movie no one's heard of.
As for Pawlikowski...yeah I don't get it. Ever since we moved on from the 5-film format, I'll never be able to wrap my head around the idea of a film getting in for directing and not for BP. It's rare and goes against logic, and because I expected Cold War to under-perform (barring FLF and possibly cinematography but maybe I was just preparing for disappointment there) and not get nominated for best picture. It would follow that someone like Cooper or Farrelly or Coogler would get that 5th spot, or anyone in the BP race really. Pawlikowski came out of nowhere for a film that didn't seem to even have a shot at a BP nom. I doubt it was even in the top 10.
Buster Scruggs can be chalked up to the Coens being massively respected, which they are. It's still a surprise though. I think because most of us expect the Academy to make safe and boring choices it's easy to be blindsided by inspired picks like this. Buster Scruggs is one of the Coens' more eccentric projects of late so it's surprising and delightful seeing the Academy taking to it.
Snubs:
I really thought Washington had his spot locked down. I expected the Academy to really dig BlackKklansman and they clearly did, but still nothing for Washington. What a shame.
The only predictable thing about the best documentary category is its unpredictability. I feel like every year there are standouts that get totally snubbed but Neighbor missing it out is legit shocking. It shows up everywhere throughout the entire season only to come up short here. Really strange.
Cooper's directing is also pretty surprising, but less so to me because I saw this writing on the wall for awhile. I assumed Cooper would get nominated but I thought he was at best in 4th or 5th place. ASIB has done nothing but lost momentum over the last few weeks. It's racked up a ton of nominations but very few wins. What's shocking is that he missed out in favor of Pawlikowski, but I wouldn't have been shocked if Farrelly or Coogler had gotten in over him.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Jan 22, 2019 19:41:53 GMT
Roma for Editing considering it's strength elsewhere. Most experts on Goldderby were predicting it to win.
First Man in Cinematography and Score too.
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Post by Miles Morales on Jan 22, 2019 19:42:41 GMT
Nomination: Never Look Away and Marina de Tavira
Snub: Won't You Be My Neighbour? and First Man missing Editing and Score
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Post by JangoB on Jan 22, 2019 20:06:20 GMT
Nomination: Yeah, definitely "Never Look Away" for Cinematography. Snub: "First Man" for Editing  |
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Post by sirjeremy on Jan 22, 2019 20:19:59 GMT
Reading the announcements on Twitter, I momentarily thought de Tavira's name was some kind of weird typo glitch thing.
Chalamet is the most shocking snub to me. I know his film wasn't liked but I felt he could easily overcome that, with residual support from last year. And he hit the big precursors.
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Post by jimmalone on Jan 22, 2019 20:54:37 GMT
Nomination: Never Look Away in Cinematography and de Tavira in Supporting Actress.
Snub: Editing for Roma and Score for First Man.
I'm not that surprised about Cooper. I actually thought the only two pretty safe here were Cuaron and Lee.
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Post by morton on Jan 22, 2019 20:59:54 GMT
Surprises: Did NOT see de Tavira, Never Look Away for cinematography, Pawlikowski, or Buster Scruggs coming. De Tavira makes sense in hindsight because of how much they liked Roma but it's still unprecedented as hell. She didn't hit any precursors or get any support from the critics. She's been out of the race all season. Never Look Away only makes sense because of Deschanel's name recognition. I guess this category didn't have many standouts and Deschanel's reputation among his peers benefited from that. When in doubt, nominate someone you know, even if it's for a movie no one's heard of. It's funny in hindsight that I was confident that Linda Cardellini would miss because even actors that have gotten surprise nominations have shown up somewhere, and Cardellini had not. Then, De Tavira shows up out of nowhere and gets the final spot.  I guess it's definitely an era where stats don't matter anymore. If Roma wins, I know it will have the not nominated at SAG stat as well as some others. Same goes for the other possible winners. Anyhow, she was definitely the big surprise of the day for me, and then Roma overperforming in the sound categories too. Then, it missed editing, but I'm still confident it wins Best Picture. Biggest snub I guess was Bradley Cooper. I know that some had entertained the notion, but I was like, "no way, he misses. What happened to Affleck isn't going to happen to Cooper when he's been campaigning so much for Best Director only." Whoops.  I do feel bad for him though because he probably doesn't win anything now. I mean before the nominations, he wasn't, but at least it seemed like he would have a Best Director nomination which is what I think he really wanted. Now he lost Best Actor because I don't think it's too late to comeback since SAG votes are already in, and I don't see BAFTA going to him over Bale or Malek. If he had concentrated on Best Actor, I think he could have had a chance to win, but not now. |
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Jan 22, 2019 23:08:59 GMT
Yeah Never Look Away in Cinematography and Cold War in Best Picture as well as Roma in Supporting Actress.
Those were the only really surprises... those and the snub of Bradley Cooper in Best Director. Shame.
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Jan 22, 2019 23:11:56 GMT
Oh and another surprise:
First Reformed getting in Best Screenplay but ignoring Ethan Hawke after all the critic love.
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I do feel bad for him though because he probably doesn't win anything now. I mean before the nominations, he wasn't, but at least it seemed like he would have a Best Director nomination which is what I think he really wanted. Now he lost Best Actor because I don't think it's too late to comeback since SAG votes are already in, and I don't see BAFTA going to him over Bale or Malek. If he had concentrated on Best Actor, I think he could have had a chance to win, but not now. 