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Post by JangoB on Jan 21, 2019 10:20:16 GMT
WORST PICTURE Gotti The Happytime Murders Holmes & Watson Robin Hood Winchester
WORST ACTRESS Jennifer Garner / Peppermint Amber Heard / London Fields Melissa McCarthy / The Happytime Murders and Life of the Party Helen Mirren / Winchester Amanda Seyfried / The Clapper
WORST ACTOR Johnny Depp (Voice Only) / Sherlock Gnomes Will Ferrell / Holmes & Watson John Travolta / Gotti Donald J. Trump (As Himself) / Death of a Nation and Fahrenheit 11/9 Bruce Willis / Death Wish
WORST SUPPORTING ACTOR Jamie Fox / Robin Hood Ludacris (Voice Only) / Show Dogs Joel McHale / The Happytime Murders John C. Reilly / Holmes & Watson Justice Smith / Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
WORST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Kellyanne Conway (As Herself) Fahrenheit 11/9 Marcia Gay Harden / Fifty Shades Freed Kelly Preston / Gotti Jaz Sinclair / Slender Man Melania Trump (As Herself) Fahrenheit 11/9
WORST SCREEN COMBO Any Two Actors or Puppets (Especially in Those Creepy Sex Scenes) / The Happytime Murders Johnny Depp & His Fast-Fading Film Career (He’s doing voices for cartoons, fer kripesakes!) / Sherlock Gnomes Will Ferrell & John C. Reilly (Trashing Two of Literature’s Most Beloved Characters) / Holmes & Watson Kelly Preston & John Travolta (Getting BATTLEFIELD EARTH type Reviews!) / Gotti Donald J, Trump & His Self Perpetuating Pettiness / Death of a Nation & Fahrenheit 11/9
WORST REMAKE, RIP-OFF or SEQUEL Death of a Nation (Remake of Hillary’s America) Death Wish Holmes & Watson The Meg (Rip-Off of Jaws) Robin Hood
WORST DIRECTOR Etan Cohen / Holmes & Watson Kevin Connolly / Gotti James Foley / Fifty Shades Freed Brian Henson / The Happytime Murders The Spierig Brothers / Winchester
WORST SCREENPLAY Death of a Nation Fifty Shades Freed Gotti The Happytime Murders Winchester
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 21, 2019 10:54:04 GMT
God I really loathe their movie hating BS every year - really will never understand how their mean and illegitimate act gets publicity - it was maybe funny one time and even that..... nah. Not funny, not legit, anti-Art It's like the movie equivalent of the content of The Purge.......a national disgrace on movies - I personally hate people who hate movies like they do and who then codify, structure and delineate their hatred...........fuck them.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 21, 2019 11:05:54 GMT
God I really loathe their movie hating BS every year - really will never understand how their mean and illegitimate act gets publicity - it was maybe funny one time and even that..... nah. Not funny, not legit, anti-Art It's like the movie equivalent of the content of The Purge.......a national disgrace on movies - I personally hate people who hate movies like they do and who then codify, structure and delineate their hatred...........fuck them. Yeah, I'm not a fan either but I figured folks would be interested anyway.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 21, 2019 11:15:47 GMT
Poor Helen Mirren
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Post by JangoB on Jan 21, 2019 11:17:33 GMT
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 21, 2019 14:04:33 GMT
Helen Mirren??? These guys are clowns, and they're clowns with no taste.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jan 21, 2019 15:31:43 GMT
Anthony McCarten and Bryan Singer SNUBBED. #RazziesAreAJoke
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 21, 2019 15:46:05 GMT
Anthony McCarten and Bryan Singer SNUBBED. #RazziesAreAJoke DON'T YOU BE SASSIN BH!
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 21, 2019 16:17:06 GMT
Razzie nom for Helen Mirren?? Ok....
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Post by bob-coppola on Jan 21, 2019 16:28:53 GMT
The Razzies are so pointless. When they just nominate straight-up awful movies, it's irrelevant because those are opinions everyone already agrees with. When they try to be funny and nominate more controversial/love-or-hate things, it just blows in their faces and shows how little taste they have (i.e. Lawrence in mother!). Someone should stop them already.
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Post by Miles Morales on Jan 21, 2019 17:32:28 GMT
Why would they nominate a film that is actually good?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 21, 2019 18:31:21 GMT
God I really loathe their movie hating BS every year - really will never understand how their mean and illegitimate act gets publicity - it was maybe funny one time and even that..... nah. Not funny, not legit, anti-Art It's like the movie equivalent of the content of The Purge.......a national disgrace on movies - I personally hate people who hate movies like they do and who then codify, structure and delineate their hatred...........fuck them. yeah but most of these movies look like shit. I don't see how it's any worse for a film like Winchester to be universally panned by critics and to be listed among other films that were just as disliked. Is it really about the Razzies hating films or just hating films they think are bad (picks that are almost never controversial). IMO unless you've never seen a film you hate, it's pretty dishonest to conflate the Razzies hating some films with them hating film as a medium. I hate plenty of films I see, as does everyone I know. and come on, it's not a national disgrace on movies. Not on any meaningful scale. This whole season we have awards bodies from around the world celebrating the best in cinema, and then we have one ceremony recognizing the year's worst contributions to the artform. Sometimes they get it wrong just like the Oscars and Globes and critics sometimes get it wrong. But so what? That's all subjective, but what they almost never do ( Mother was an exception) is pick on artistically risky or ambitious projects. Are you going to tell me you feel bad for the makers Robin Hood or Fahrenheit 11/9? idk, it seems kinda prudish and snobby to me.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 21, 2019 19:10:13 GMT
Fuck those assholes !
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 21, 2019 19:46:58 GMT
God I really loathe their movie hating BS every year - really will never understand how their mean and illegitimate act gets publicity - it was maybe funny one time and even that..... nah. Not funny, not legit, anti-Art It's like the movie equivalent of the content of The Purge.......a national disgrace on movies - I personally hate people who hate movies like they do and who then codify, structure and delineate their hatred...........fuck them. yeah but most of these movies look like shit. I don't see how it's any worse for a film like Winchester to be universally panned by critics and to be listed among other films that were just as disliked. Is it really about the Razzies hating films or just hating films they think are bad (picks that are almost never controversial). IMO unless you've never seen a film you hate, it's pretty dishonest to conflate the Razzies hating some films with them hating film as a medium. I hate plenty of films I see, as does everyone I know. and come on, it's not a national disgrace on movies. Not on any meaningful scale. This whole season we have awards bodies from around the world celebrating the best in cinema, and then we have one ceremony recognizing the year's worst contributions to the artform. Sometimes they get it wrong just like the Oscars and Globes and critics sometimes get it wrong. But so what? That's all subjective, but what they almost never do ( Mother was an exception) is pick on artistically risky or ambitious projects. Are you going to tell me you feel bad for the makers Robin Hood or Fahrenheit 11/9? idk, it seems kinda prudish and snobby to me. It's not a comparable situation at all to me. There is not a Razzies equivalent for bad music, theater, painting, TV, books, sculpture, standup comedy, gee - ANY other Art form - is there? Nope, because it's f'n stupid and mean and by being stupid and mean it is a micro version of everything wrong with American culture too not just movie culture - who the fnck gives awards for "worst" - that doesn't seem a vulgarity to you? It's far different from a critic listing their least favorite film in the NY Times - that is fine, that's an opinion.......... but you have to be fncked in the head to do what the Razzies do, arrange a whole categorization and list of specific structure and "nominees". The Razzies are not different than me or you and our friends doing our worst lists- certainly no more legitimate - but they have the gall to publicize it, and present themselves as an "equivalent" - they hold an event, then codify it and structure it. Vultures, they are ...........a symptom of a sick culture........I'll take Robin Hood over the Razzies every time. Maybe I seem prudish and snobby but that's cool, I'll take that over their smugness and cruelty. Hate 'em, fake funny, anti-Art, pricks.......
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Post by Zeb31 on Jan 22, 2019 0:10:59 GMT
Why are we still giving these people any attention at all.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 22, 2019 2:08:35 GMT
Maybe I seem prudish and snobby but that's cool, I'll take that over their smugness and cruelty. Hate 'em, fake funny, anti-Art, pricks....... It's just such a strange thing to get offended over. I honestly don't get how you take from these nominations the implication that the people behind the Razzies hate movies anymore than anyone could assume that of a channel like Cinemasins. It's mostly harmless schadenfreude. But it's like you think anyone making a point to call out and make fun of these films is somehow "anti-art" which to me is kind of precious. I don't have much stake in the ceremony myself other than a passing interest but I don't see any harm (and I certainly don't think the medium suffers any) if people want to laugh at bad movies. The people who enjoy these films in the first place obviously aren't bothered by their quality evidenced by the fact that these films keep getting made and some viewers make a point of seeking out bad films for the lolz with friends. Is that cruel too? Do those people hate art? And I also think it's precious to feel bad for the cast/crew behind these projects which are mostly commercialistic studio efforts that get made and will continue to get made regardless of feedback and where everyone is already bankrolled (I doubt Michael Bay is losing any sleep over it). No independent or struggling artist is affected by the Razzies. as for them being a "symptom of a sick culture," no more than SNL my man. No more than Late Night talks shows.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jan 22, 2019 2:22:00 GMT
Maybe I seem prudish and snobby but that's cool, I'll take that over their smugness and cruelty. Hate 'em, fake funny, anti-Art, pricks....... It's just such a strange thing to get offended over. I honestly don't get how you take from these nominations the implication that the people behind the Razzies hate movies anymore than anyone could assume that of a channel like Cinemasins. I'm not getting involved in all the rest of your post (I see sense in both sides of the argument), but I'm gonna stand up and say that Cinemasins hates movies and their videos are all about picking apart things that aren't flaws at all in a way that isn't in the slightest bit humorous. They exist only for that sweet, sweet advertising money.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 22, 2019 2:34:11 GMT
It's just such a strange thing to get offended over. I honestly don't get how you take from these nominations the implication that the people behind the Razzies hate movies anymore than anyone could assume that of a channel like Cinemasins. I'm not getting involved in all the rest of your post (I see sense in both sides of the argument), but I'm gonna stand up and say that Cinemasins hates movies and their videos are all about picking apart things that aren't flaws at all in a way that isn't in the slightest bit humorous. They exist only for that sweet, sweet advertising money. I watched them for years and I couldn't disagree more. If anything I stopped watching them when their videos starting becoming too nice: "we really, really like this movie, but...", or "we really really like this performance, but..." It defeated the purpose of the comedy entirely. And it's also why they've said that they never intend to do certain films (I think Citizen Kane or Pulp Fiction of something, but I haven't watched them in forever so I don't remember precisely). You might find the comedy unenjoyable (I myself got bored of it after a couple years) but I think it's at best presumptuous to assume that they hate movies especially when they say they don't and when they clearly don't in their less mean, more generally nitpicky videos where they were just going through the motions. Honestly the whole thing is just a formula now, and you can very easily tell when a movie they like or a movie they dislike gets filtered through it (they very clearly hated "The Witch" and their video about it was half a review filtered through that nitpicky formula). That's why I usually preferred their videos on big-budget projects or films I already didn't like (you don't have to look that far to find the flaws in a Transformers film or The Room or The Legend of Fucking Hercules). We all enjoy reading a really negative review every now and then. Cinemasins just caters to that impulse. So yeah, they definitely don't hate films just because they point out errors in films, and they've been forthright in saying that some of those nitpicks are basically meaningless sometimes next to the nitpick itself. They tread pretty softly these days. But like I said, it's just a comedy formula. Either you enjoy it or you don't, but whether you do or don't implies nothing about your relationship with cinema. And you might not think it's funny but clearly lots of people do, and I wouldn't assume that any of those viewers hate film. In fact the majority of them are probably cinephiles.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 22, 2019 2:54:35 GMT
Maybe I seem prudish and snobby but that's cool, I'll take that over their smugness and cruelty. Hate 'em, fake funny, anti-Art, pricks....... It's just such a strange thing to get offended over. I honestly don't get how you take from these nominations the implication that the people behind the Razzies hate movies anymore than anyone could assume that of a channel like Cinemasins. It's mostly harmless schadenfreude. But it's like you think anyone making a point to call out and make fun of these films is somehow "anti-art" which to me is kind of precious. I don't have much stake in the ceremony myself other than a passing interest but I don't see any harm (and I certainly don't think the medium suffers any) if people want to laugh at bad movies. The people who enjoy these films in the first place obviously aren't bothered by their quality evidenced by the fact that these films keep getting made and some viewers make a point of seeking out bad films for the lolz with friends. Is that cruel too? Do those people hate art? And I also think it's precious to feel bad for the cast/crew behind these projects which are mostly commercialistic studio efforts that get made and will continue to get made regardless of feedback and where everyone is already bankrolled (I doubt Michael Bay is losing any sleep over it). No independent or struggling artist is affected by the Razzies. as for them being a "symptom of a sick culture," no more than SNL my man. No more than Late Night talks shows.I dunno, to me things are being lumped in together that are distinct. Cinemasins put out a competitive list of worst films, director and performances and hold an "awards" show with publicists and press releases? Not that I know of..........SNL does that? Nope. .........and the fact that Michael Bay is bankrolled isn't the point at all - it's rather that by definition it hurts movies and lowers the discourse on movies - the fact that you say you don't see it well, is a big part of the problem actually - you love movies Tommen and don't think the medium suffers any...........really - think that through a bit : The discourse around the Razzies always becomes "that got nominated for a Razzie - hahaha" - which literally means jack shit - they aren't critics, peers, industry people, they aren't anyone - they're just 50 jerks who think they're funny - and by its mere existence it dumbs down the whole culture of movies. It's the film equivalent of casual racism in a way - you don't think it's a big deal but it is and it adds up - if you separate films only into good and bad and "award" the bad at all, well you cheapen the medium imo. Its the Razzies mere existence that is at issue. It's not the same as SNL or late night talk shows at all - those don't set movies up in a cruel competition for negativity AND do it under the guise of legitimacy (and again no other Art form has an equivalent). Agree to disagree I guess........
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jan 22, 2019 9:04:44 GMT
It's just such a strange thing to get offended over. I honestly don't get how you take from these nominations the implication that the people behind the Razzies hate movies anymore than anyone could assume that of a channel like Cinemasins. It's mostly harmless schadenfreude. But it's like you think anyone making a point to call out and make fun of these films is somehow "anti-art" which to me is kind of precious. I don't have much stake in the ceremony myself other than a passing interest but I don't see any harm (and I certainly don't think the medium suffers any) if people want to laugh at bad movies. The people who enjoy these films in the first place obviously aren't bothered by their quality evidenced by the fact that these films keep getting made and some viewers make a point of seeking out bad films for the lolz with friends. Is that cruel too? Do those people hate art? And I also think it's precious to feel bad for the cast/crew behind these projects which are mostly commercialistic studio efforts that get made and will continue to get made regardless of feedback and where everyone is already bankrolled (I doubt Michael Bay is losing any sleep over it). No independent or struggling artist is affected by the Razzies. as for them being a "symptom of a sick culture," no more than SNL my man. No more than Late Night talks shows.I dunno, to me things are being lumped in together that are distinct. Cinemasins put out a competitive list of worst films, director and performances and hold an "awards" show with publicists and press releases? Not that I know of..........SNL does that? Nope. .........and the fact that Michael Bay is bankrolled isn't the point at all - it's rather that by definition it hurts movies and lowers the discourse on movies - the fact that you say you don't see it well, is a big part of the problem actually - you love movies Tommen and don't think the medium suffers any...........really - think that through a bit : The discourse around the Razzies always becomes "that got nominated for a Razzie - hahaha" - which literally means jack shit - they aren't critics, peers, industry people, they aren't anyone - they're just 50 jerks who think they're funny - and by its mere existence it dumbs down the whole culture of movies. It's the film equivalent of casual racism in a way - you don't think it's a big deal but it is and it adds up - if you separate films only into good and bad and "award" the bad at all, well you cheapen the medium imo. Its the Razzies mere existence that is at issue. It's not the same as SNL or late night talk shows at all - those don't set movies up in a cruel competition for negativity AND do it under the guise of legitimacy (and again no other Art form has an equivalent). Agree to disagree I guess........ Oh LIGHTEN UP!! 😆 Jeez, for a guy who usually stands (correctly) in opposition to the SJW/PC culture groupthink mindset, THIS is what triggers you?? Good Lord, no one, NO ONE, takes the Razzies seriously. People always mock the irrelevance of the Oscars by saying "a year later, no one remembers who won BP". Well, my god, by the end of the same fucking week they're announced people forget ALL their noms/wins. It's a big goof and it's treated as such. As much a mockery of the nature of award shows as it is mocking bad movies. Shit, movie stars like Sandra Bullock and Halle Berry have even gone as far as accepting their "trophies". It's like a roast, you're taking the piss out of shitty movies/performances. Absolutely harmless.
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