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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 14, 2019 1:59:30 GMT
Picture - Roma Director - Alfonso Cuaron Actor - Bale Actress - Gaga and Close Supporting Actor - Ali Supporting Actress - King Adapted Screenplay - If Beale Street Could Talk Original Screenplay - First Reformed! Animated Feature - Into the Spider-Verse Foreign Language - Roma Art Direction, Costume Design, Visual Effects - Black Panther Cinematography - Roma Film Editing, Score - First Man Hair and Make-up - Vice Song - A Star is Born
Action - Mission Impossible - Fallout Comedy - Crazy Rich Asians Comedy Leads - Colman and Bale Horror - A Quiet Place Ensemble - The Favourite
Totals Roma - 4 wins Black Panther - 3 Vice - 3 First Man - 2 If Beale Street Could Talk - 2 A Star is Born - 2
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 14, 2019 2:26:41 GMT
Cuaron wins for Best Director.
Actor, Actress, and Picture are left.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 14, 2019 2:55:16 GMT
Close and Gaga tied for Actress. Gaga gave a beautiful speech.
Bale wins for Actor.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 14, 2019 3:11:53 GMT
Close and Gaga tied for Actress. Gaga gave a beautiful speech. Bale wins for Actor. We must have very different definitions of the word 'beautiful'.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Jan 14, 2019 5:05:56 GMT
The lack of love for Cooper this season is criminal.
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Post by quetee on Jan 14, 2019 5:26:14 GMT
The lack of love for Cooper this season is criminal. Take this with a grain of salt but I read somewhere that people don't want to vote for him cause he has everything already.... that makes no sense but that's what I read on Hollywood Elsewhere.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 14, 2019 11:36:52 GMT
The lack of love for Cooper this season is criminal. I dunno, I would say what's the charge, because we could all plead self defense. Wasn't the crime committed around the actual film he made - 5 counts of murdering the same story yet again, Fraud (for "best" acting, writing, directing, catering), Theft (of my ticket admission price). Kidding, kidding, and I certainly hated a lot more films this year than that one - but it was somewhere between 7-7.5 (big deal?) - like it's inferior to a lot this year, and this year was not that strong to begin with. I don't know why it's owed (or he's owed) anything just because he did a lot of things surprisingly well but not exceptionally well. SAG is coming, I'm sure he'll do fine there which may cast the big prizes in his favor but honestly his film isn't Roma (wtf), his acting isn't Hawke (or insert another name here), his directing isn't............well you get the idea.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 14, 2019 13:24:35 GMT
Close and Gaga tied for Actress. Gaga gave a beautiful speech. Bale wins for Actor. Malek is still winning the little golden man. Critics Choice Awards are really irrelevant most of the time. And Close is winning best actress.
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Post by Pavan on Jan 14, 2019 18:52:56 GMT
Close and Gaga tied for Actress. Gaga gave a beautiful speech. Bale wins for Actor. Malek is still winning the little golden man. Critics Choice Awards are really irrelevant most of the time. And Close is winning best actress. Because he won the golden globe?
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 14, 2019 19:30:08 GMT
Malek is still winning the little golden man. Critics Choice Awards are really irrelevant most of the time. And Close is winning best actress. Because he won the golden globe? Because
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 14, 2019 22:56:07 GMT
Close and Gaga tied for Actress. Gaga gave a beautiful speech. Bale wins for Actor. Malek is still winning the little golden man. Critics Choice Awards are really irrelevant most of the time.And Close is winning best actress. Since 2000, the Critics Choice Best Actor winner has won the Best Actor 14/18 times. Also the Critics Choice Best Picture winner has matched up with the Oscar Best Picture winner 13/18 times, since 2000. Why is Malek winning again over Bale?
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 14, 2019 23:05:20 GMT
Malek is still winning the little golden man. Critics Choice Awards are really irrelevant most of the time.And Close is winning best actress. Since 2000, the Critics Choice Best Actor winner has won the Best Actor 14/18 times. Also the Critics Choice Best Picture winner has matched up with the Oscar Best Picture winner 13/18 times, since 2000. Why is Malek winning again over Bale? 14/18 is not 18/18
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 14, 2019 23:29:20 GMT
Since 2000, the Critics Choice Best Actor winner has won the Best Actor 14/18 times. Also the Critics Choice Best Picture winner has matched up with the Oscar Best Picture winner 13/18 times, since 2000. Why is Malek winning again over Bale? 14/18 is not 18/18 Yes, but you said the Critics Choice winners are irrelevant. They are not.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 14, 2019 23:46:28 GMT
14/18 is not 18/18 Yes, but you said the Critics Choice winners are irrelevant. They are not. compared to the other awards ? yes , kind of
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 15, 2019 0:06:06 GMT
Yes, but you said the Critics Choice winners are irrelevant. They are not. compared to the other awards ? yes , kind of You don't really have a good retort here. Last year, the Critics Choice winners in the major categories went 8/8. 2016, they went 5/8 2015, they went 6/8 Obviously the Guilds are more important, but I wouldn't dismiss them as "irrelevant".
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 15, 2019 0:08:05 GMT
compared to the other awards ? yes , kind of You don't really have a good retort here. Last year, the Critics Choice winners in the major categories went 8/8. 2016, they went 5/8 2015, they went 6/8 Obviously the Guilds are more important, but I wouldn't dismiss them as "irrelevant". yes , kind of
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jan 15, 2019 0:18:02 GMT
Smart money may be on Malek, but I’m going out on a limb and saying this is Bale’s to lose.
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Post by Sharbs on Jan 15, 2019 0:24:13 GMT
compared to the other awards ? yes , kind of You don't really have a good retort here. Last year, the Critics Choice winners in the major categories went 8/8. 2016, they went 5/8 2015, they went 6/8 Obviously the Guilds are more important, but I wouldn't dismiss them as "irrelevant". the retort is being 14/18 is merely a happy coincidence. They don't vote for the big one and from what I've learned yesterday they don't have a bearing on the outcome
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Post by Zeb31 on Jan 15, 2019 0:48:37 GMT
compared to the other awards ? yes , kind of You don't really have a good retort here. Last year, the Critics Choice winners in the major categories went 8/8. 2016, they went 5/8 2015, they went 6/8 Obviously the Guilds are more important, but I wouldn't dismiss them as "irrelevant". Correlation doesn't imply causation. They have no voter overlap with the Oscars, and barely anyone even watches them. They're just shameless Oscar predictors, and many nominees don't even bother to show up for the ceremony. This year they awarded all three Best Actress frontrunners, with two of them tying for the main lead Actress prize (they don't even bother to disguise how rigged they are at this point, lmao). It's easy to get that many Oscar winners right when you start handing out ties to increase your odds. The Globes aren't much different, but at least people care enough to watch and attend them, so winning one can bring visibility and solidify a winner's status as their category's frontrunner. The Globes also serve as a campaigning platform to ingratiate oneself with one's fellow Academy voters, as evidenced by (one of many recent examples) McDormand and her phenomenal speech last year, which surely cemented her status as the reigning (and ultimately unchallenged) Actress favorite. The Critics' Choice doesn't have that type of clout, because there aren't enough people paying attention. And as for the overlap in winners: by this point every season (mid-January), most categories have a pretty clear, widely agreed-upon frontrunner. Last year in particular was pretty boring in this regard, with Oldman, McDormand, Rockwell, Janney, Del Toro and Ivory emerging as pretty clear favorites by the time the Globes took place and the major nominations poured in, so the televised awards all went to the same people every time. Only Picture and Original Screenplay were really up in the air; the rest of the big 8 categories were all easy to call. So in that sense, keeping in mind that the Critics' Choice is voted on by people who don't influence the Oscars and just want to copy their winners, their value as a precursor basically boils down to their ability to predict how the categories will turn out-- and the abundance of precursor awards makes that relatively easy most of the time. It certainly did last year. This board would be just as relevant as the BFCA if we had a similar ceremony dedicated to awarding our collectively predicted Oscar frontrunners (which quetee already has us covered for), because the effort and voter overlap would be the same. But this year isn't shaping up to be as predictable as the previous ones were. Just look at how many categories are still up in the air this year. Best Picture is a mess. Actor could go to any one of Malek, Bale (who seems to be gaining momentum) and Cooper (who I'm not ruling out until SAG has its say). Actress is Close vs. Colman, with Gaga still very much in the running. None of them can claim to be the sole winner of either of the two televised precursors that have been announced so far (Globe and BFCA); in fact, all three of them walked out of the two ceremonies with at least one prize each, which has to be a pretty unheard-of development. Supporting Actor is currently being led by a guy who just won 2 years ago, but SAG will tell the real tale. The current Supporting Actress frontrunner was snubbed by both SAG and BAFTA, and who the fuck knows how those two are gonna go. We could easily have a different winner at each of the big three televised precursors. Original Screenplay has enough controversies going on to be a genuinely exciting race. Only Director and Adapted Screenplay (maybe) have clear favorites. And even then, who knows; WB could feel Cooper's acting chances fading and ramp up his Director campaign. As unlikely as it seems right now with Roma's current overperformance, it's not impossible that the Academy turns away from a foreign 2-time winner who's already sure to walk home with at least his 3rd Oscar (for Cinematography) and instead favors a golden boy who's a quadruple threat and might otherwise get shut out entirely. In any case, the BFCA won't have influenced any of that.
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