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Post by The-Havok on Jan 14, 2019 4:05:44 GMT
Goddamit, A Star Is Born and Bohemian Rhapsody finally get adults back into the theaters and they award a Netflix movie? That nobody is even watching from their couches? Cry more
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Post by Sharbs on Jan 14, 2019 4:06:58 GMT
Why would these "clear up" the race when these peeps aren't a subsection of Oscar Voters? this wasn't just a meme. I'm actually curious as to why the BFCA affects the race
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Post by stephen on Jan 14, 2019 4:13:09 GMT
Why would these "clear up" the race when these peeps aren't a subsection of Oscar Voters? this wasn't just a meme. I'm actually curious as to why the BFCA affects the race They don't. They aren't an industry prize and have no real bearing on the overall race at all. They're shameless about trying to be Oscar prognosticators, but they have no real use except being able to have televised speeches, and they've pretty much invalidated their own existence in the last few years.
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Post by Sharbs on Jan 14, 2019 4:13:57 GMT
$2.3mil It still has a theater run I don't see that on box office mojo. my bad, I just googled and saw a number
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Post by Zeb31 on Jan 14, 2019 4:16:07 GMT
Roma should be at least making an impact at home and it isnt..that is the problem.. had it been a hit Netflix would have told us but they haven't but Google Bird Box and articles galore about the number of viewers. It doesn't have to make an impact with general audiences, though, because those don't vote. Critics and industry folks are the ones whose reactions matter here, and Roma is clearly resonating with them. It doesn't need Bird Box-level success just like Moonlight didn't need Civil War-level box-office.
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Post by Zeb31 on Jan 14, 2019 4:17:51 GMT
I don't see that on box office mojo. my bad, I just googled and saw a number I've seen that number too. It's IndieWire's educated guesstimate based on information they put together about ticket sales in Roma's screenings. It's not reliable, but it also doesn't matter much in this case.
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Post by quetee on Jan 14, 2019 4:20:36 GMT
this wasn't just a meme. I'm actually curious as to why the BFCA affects the race They don't. They aren't an industry prize and have no real bearing on the overall race at all. They're shameless about trying to be Oscar prognosticators, but they have no real use except being able to have televised speeches, and they've pretty much invalidated their own existence in the last few years. I bet you they were pissed off when BR won the Globe cause now it looks like they were off prediction wise. They miscalculated and included Mary Poppins in their line up.
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Post by stephen on Jan 14, 2019 4:21:10 GMT
Roma should be at least making an impact at home and it isnt..that is the problem.. had it been a hit Netflix would have told us but they haven't but Google Bird Box and articles galore about the number of viewers. It doesn't have to make an impact with general audiences, though, because those don't vote. Critics and industry folks are the ones whose reactions matter here, and Roma is clearly resonating with them. It doesn't need Bird Box-level success just like Moonlight didn't need Civil War-level box-office. It's also in no way a "meme"-able type of movie. Bird Box was clearly a massive hit that got tons of eyeballs on it, but it's also much more mainstream. Roma doesn't need to be a huge moneymaker. It just needs to be seen and appreciated by the right people. The critics adore it, it's done extremely well to get this far (and if Cuaron wins Best Director, he already breaks one stat by winning for directing a foreign language film), and it's hit most of the guilds/awards bodies it has been needing to. SAG was a blow, but it also didn't have any real name actors (and was it even eligible, considering that no actors actually get their own solo credit title in the film; Yalitza and Marina share theirs, and the rest of the ensemble share theirs).
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Post by quetee on Jan 14, 2019 4:22:27 GMT
Roma should be at least making an impact at home and it isnt..that is the problem.. had it been a hit Netflix would have told us but they haven't but Google Bird Box and articles galore about the number of viewers. It doesn't have to make an impact with general audiences, though, because those don't vote. Critics and industry folks are the ones whose reactions matter here, and Roma is clearly resonating with them. It doesn't need Bird Box-level success just like Moonlight didn't need Civil War-level box-office. The Oscars wanted to add a stupid popular category. Of course it matters. At least Moonlight played in the theatres and people watched it cause it got some awards attention. With all this Awards attention, I still don't know anybody who has watched Roma.
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Post by stephen on Jan 14, 2019 4:23:58 GMT
They don't. They aren't an industry prize and have no real bearing on the overall race at all. They're shameless about trying to be Oscar prognosticators, but they have no real use except being able to have televised speeches, and they've pretty much invalidated their own existence in the last few years. I bet you they were pissed off when BR won the Globe cause now it looks like they were off prediction wise. They miscalculated and included Mary Poppins in their line up. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually were thinking of announcing it as a write-in winner.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jan 14, 2019 4:24:28 GMT
I'm pretty sure Roma is still over-performing in terms of box office. There's an arthouse theater by me that at first claimed to be screening it for "one week exclusive" from December 14th to the 20th. ...And they're still showing it, at least through the end of this week. I don't think it'd still be kicking around if it were a bomb.
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Post by quetee on Jan 14, 2019 4:30:49 GMT
It doesn't have to make an impact with general audiences, though, because those don't vote. Critics and industry folks are the ones whose reactions matter here, and Roma is clearly resonating with them. It doesn't need Bird Box-level success just like Moonlight didn't need Civil War-level box-office. It's also in no way a "meme"-able type of movie. Bird Box was clearly a massive hit that got tons of eyeballs on it, but it's also much more mainstream. Roma doesn't need to be a huge moneymaker. It just needs to be seen and appreciated by the right people. The critics adore it, it's done extremely well to get this far (and if Cuaron wins Best Director, he already breaks one stat by winning for directing a foreign language film), and it's hit most of the guilds/awards bodies it has been needing to. SAG was a blow, but it also didn't have any real name actors (and was it even eligible, considering that no actors actually get their own solo credit title in the film; Yalitza and Marina share theirs, and the rest of the ensemble share theirs). Well, we shall see what happens this year with The Irishman. I bet you it will be handled differently Netflix will brag about how many people watched that movie. Had Roma been another Life is Beautiful type hit then I think that would have been something but it isn't.
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Post by Zeb31 on Jan 14, 2019 4:42:00 GMT
It doesn't have to make an impact with general audiences, though, because those don't vote. Critics and industry folks are the ones whose reactions matter here, and Roma is clearly resonating with them. It doesn't need Bird Box-level success just like Moonlight didn't need Civil War-level box-office. The Oscars wanted to add a stupid popular category. Of course it matters. At least Moonlight played in the theatres and people watched it cause it got some awards attention. With all this Awards attention, I still don't know anybody who has watched Roma. The fact that the Academy considered it necessary to add a Popular Film category actually proves my point: their sensibilities have become so detached from those of general audiences that they're actually considering adding categories just so that films with wide appeal can actually win prizes again like they did in past decades. One of the main arguments against the Popular Film category was that it would further prevent blockbusters like Black Panther from breaking into the top 8, which they're already struggling to hit-- precisely because tiny films with few viewers like Roma are the ones that generally monopolize the spotlight. I don't know anyone who's talking about Roma either, but that's just par for the course at this point in Oscar history. I personally know one person who liked The Shape of Water, and a dozen who hated it. Nearly all of my friends love La La Land, but only a fraction of them saw Moonlight. Everyone is aware of (and most love) The Revenant and Fury Road, but practically no one even knows what Spotlight is. Roma would just be continuing a years-long trend.
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Post by bob-coppola on Jan 14, 2019 16:06:34 GMT
Why would these "clear up" the race when these peeps aren't a subsection of Oscar Voters? this wasn't just a meme. I'm actually curious as to why the BFCA affects the race They don't, at least not in the sense that they're not voters. But this and the GG aren't entirely worthless 'cause they give people a spotlight and function as a thermometer for public opinion.
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