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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 21, 2018 7:09:22 GMT
Thoughts? MVP?
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 21, 2018 7:44:00 GMT
Also, everyone Lead or Supporting?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Nov 21, 2018 7:52:53 GMT
wears out its welcome pretty damn quickly by just hammering the same repetitive comic notes. I mean, it's not horrible or even particularly mediocre but it's just so unmemorable and there's something so monotonous about its inability to surprise or say anything about bourgeoisie vanity that hasn't already been said a million times before. Waltz was a lot of fun but the other performances felt practically indistinguishable from each other. I probably laughed two or three times.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Nov 21, 2018 8:24:48 GMT
It's a fun one watch, with solid performances, but honestly I wouldn't say I remembered it for more than thirty seconds after it ended.
From what I recall Waltz was the MVP for me and I consider everyone supporting.
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Post by wilcinema on Nov 21, 2018 11:42:53 GMT
I love Polanski, but this one was so unengaging to me. It goes over the top way too soon.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 21, 2018 13:30:09 GMT
It's an example of how movie fans (critics, audiences) think film trumps theater - "oh this might have been a good play but as film ....."- which of course in some ways it does and in some ways not. Anyone who has ever seen the play can tell you it works better as a play and could never work as a film - and that the next Polanski film was a play that worked better as a film........but both are sort of filmed impeccably anyway.
The very artifice of this story lends itself to the theater so basically people who diss it are dissing it because Polanski didn't change the play enough to make it more cinematic - but he is interested more in preserving a document of the play - because he loves the play. The play has everything he's interested in - the hypocrisy of the middle class (or higher), and the mask of rationalization.
When you change the way you look at it, what you are looking at changes too, and for people who like plays on film (me, lol) it has its many rewards.......
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Post by stephen on Nov 21, 2018 16:01:15 GMT
Everyone is lead. I'll never understand those who think that it's only the women who are lead, or Foster/ Reilly are lead while the others are supporting.
As for the film itself, it's okay. I don't much care for plays where everything is cranked up to eleven by the half-hour mark and there's not much room to go after that except riff on that same exact tone for the next 90 minutes. But the performances are fairly solid, up until Kate Winslet starts drinking and then she becomes really horrid.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Nov 21, 2018 16:59:26 GMT
I couldn't stand it.
The moment she puked on the coffee table, I was just thinking... "perhaps this is how I'll feel about the film later".
I thought the film did a lot worse to my coffee table.
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Post by Mattsby on Nov 21, 2018 20:17:37 GMT
A very good version of the great Yasmina Reza play....which I've never seen, only read. The adaptation is maybe a little too clipped, in terms of dialogue—some great exchanges in the play (like when they argue who’s most “fundamentally uncouth”) are left out. But the conceit is there, the clever and relevant themes are there, and the actors deliver especially Winslet and Waltz. I find it very funny and rewatchable.
Would make a great double feature with Abigail’s Party. The smarmy charade of etiquette and entertaining guests, class/gender competitiveness, and the fascinating idea that the adults’ harsh truths come forward thru increasingly infantile behavior. Idk if it’s in the movie but from the Carnage play: “You’re far more authentic when showing yourself in a horrible light.”
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Post by MsMovieStar on Nov 21, 2018 20:21:21 GMT
Oh honey, I actually loved it, but then again I love puking on coffee tables and shouting... I found it to be a great comedy.
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