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Post by mhynson27 on Sept 26, 2018 10:31:13 GMT
Thoughts?
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 26, 2018 10:50:50 GMT
It's a 6.5-7.0 or so. The ending of this film is a Don't Look Now level wtf was that? - and it will prove as divisive as that one.
Eventually you have to guess what is happening on a scene by scene basis and then rationalize it or contextualize it by how much you're able to piece together and it becomes either a movie you hate because you are working hard for nothing or a movie you love because it confirms how smart you like to think you are.
One of Gyllenhaal's best turns though (and he gets a lot of undeserved praise for some other roles imo) but in this one he's really putting a lot of thought in how to go about shaping the character. One of his best acted scenes is a small one - where he is "acting" out how he's going to be when the characters meet and there's a whole level of terror and nervous excitement or fear right under the surface.
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Post by jimmalone on Sept 26, 2018 11:11:29 GMT
It's okay, but it naturally pales in comparison to the book. Cause Saramago puts so many thoughts in the details of this bizarre situation and you get much closer into the character. In that regard it was just very complicated to adapt to the screen and while Villeneuve and Gyllenhaal do quite a good effort on this it just didn't fully satisfy me. It's a solid film for me, but not more. I think I give it a 6/10.
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Post by LaraQ on Sept 26, 2018 11:34:26 GMT
I hadn't read the book so I had no idea wtf that ending meant.I liked the film though.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Sept 26, 2018 18:44:24 GMT
It's a good one-time watch with a stellar performance from Gyllenhaal. I feel like once you decide on an interpretation of it though, the enigmatic surface of the film doesn't seem properly motivated, and you realize it's kind of just smoke and mirrors for something much simpler than what it appears to be.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Sept 26, 2018 18:53:41 GMT
Wasn't a fan...
EDIT: Plus it had one of my big pet peeves of the song being so jarringly different from the end of the movie.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 26, 2018 18:58:40 GMT
Pretentious edgy garbage
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Post by Zeb31 on Sept 26, 2018 22:53:56 GMT
I really, really like it.
Having read Saramago's novel made the plot easier to follow, but Villeneuve's adaptation is very much its own beast and takes the bare bones of the original story in a very different direction. While the book is a (deliciously written) study on the loss of individuality in an increasingly homogenized world, the film is a nightmarish look at male sexuality and threatened masculinity, with symbols of its own (no spiders or sex clubs at all in the novel) and a totally different ending. The last two pages in the book are difficult to match in terms of impact, but *that* final scene is a fine alternative.
And I'm gonna have to disagree with Fish here; this has one of my favorite end credit sequences of the past few years, and the music selection is a considerable reason why.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Sept 26, 2018 23:40:59 GMT
I really, really like it. Having read Saramago's novel made the plot easier to follow, but Villeneuve's adaptation is very much its own beast and takes the bare bones of the original story in a very different direction. While the book is a (deliciously written) study on the loss of individuality in an increasingly homogenized world, the film is a nightmarish look at male sexuality and threatened masculinity, with symbols of its own (no spiders or sex clubs at all in the novel) and a totally different ending. The last two pages in the book are difficult to match in terms of impact, but *that* final scene is a fine alternative. And I'm gonna have to disagree with Fish here; this has one of my favorite end credit sequences of the past few years, and the music selection is a considerable reason why. Fine. Be wrong for all I care...
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Sept 27, 2018 9:03:41 GMT
Tedious crap which failed to capture the complexity and intensity of the book.
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Post by Film Socialism on Sept 27, 2018 21:00:38 GMT
villeneuve's only great film
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Post by avnermoriarti on Sept 28, 2018 17:15:47 GMT
The only time I've respond favorable to a Villeneuve film, it's a film that constantly rejects the genre and I found so much substance that after that I read the book but what I took away from the text, was already in the film, what if we start analyzing parts of pur system that we shouldn't be and how can that "reality" starts to fall apart once we found out more and more about it, yet are parts of it that remain unreachable to us. And Gyllenhaal is awesome in it, he just standing on his motorbike and what comes with that...
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