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Post by Joaquim on Sept 14, 2018 5:01:08 GMT
We know Mary was a virgin when Jesus was conceived but did she ever have sex with Joseph after Jesus was born or during the pregnancy?
Please discuss.
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 14, 2018 5:14:03 GMT
She had another son, dude.
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Post by mhynson27 on Sept 14, 2018 5:42:51 GMT
Jesus had a number of bothers and sisters so unless she adopted then yeah she didn't remain a virgin.
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Post by cherry68 on Sept 14, 2018 10:46:28 GMT
Jesus had a number of bothers and sisters so unless she adopted then yeah she didn't remain a virgin. What the hell are you talking about? Brothers and sisters were intended in a figurative way. |
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Sept 14, 2018 11:00:42 GMT
This isn't really any of my business, so here's a relevant joke...
If Mary had Jesus, and Jesus is the lamb of God, does that mean Mary had a little lamb?
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Sept 14, 2018 12:11:28 GMT
I highly doubt she was . No disrespect to the Holy Bible but I don't believe in "virginal pregnancy".
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Sept 15, 2018 22:24:53 GMT
No she was a whooer.
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 16, 2018 0:12:55 GMT
Jesus had a number of bothers and sisters so unless she adopted then yeah she didn't remain a virgin. What the hell are you talking about? Brothers and sisters were intended in a figurative way. I'd argue that there is no evidence that it was meant to be taken in a figurative way, and that the least complicated answer to this question is that Mhynson replied with. I understand that it is a thorny religious issue for some though, so I'll keep my neck out of it from here on out. |
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Post by Christ_Ian_Bale on Sept 16, 2018 1:35:55 GMT
Appropriate adjective.  |
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Post by cherry68 on Sept 16, 2018 5:56:58 GMT
What the hell are you talking about? Brothers and sisters were intended in a figurative way. I'd argue that there is no evidence that it was meant to be taken in a figurative way, and that the least complicated answer to this question is that Mhynson replied with. I understand that it is a thorny religious issue for some though, so I'll keep my neck out of it from here on out. In Aramaic - as well as in Hebrew - there is a term ('aha' / 'ah) that designates both the brother, the cousin, the nephew, and the ally. In this light we understand why Abraham calls his nephew Lot "brother" (Genesis 13,8), as Laban does to his nephew Jacob (29.15). In the Judaic socio-cultural context of Jesus the term "brother" does not have, therefore, an univocal sense as in the Greek. |
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Post by cherry68 on Sept 16, 2018 17:54:25 GMT
In Aramaic - as well as in Hebrew - there is a term ('aha' / 'ah) that designates both the brother, the cousin, the nephew, and the ally. In this light we understand why Abraham calls his nephew Lot "brother" (Genesis 13,8), as Laban does to his nephew Jacob (29.15). In the Judaic socio-cultural context of Jesus the term "brother" does not have, therefore, an univocal sense as in the Greek.
hey cherry, i'd think Jesus had siblings. i was wondering the same thing but i read it recently and i think based on the following it's kinda clear to me.
Matthew 12,46-50:
While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. 47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. 48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? 49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
John 2,12:
After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days.
Matthew 13, 55-56(also similarly in Mark 6,3):
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? 56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
in my opinion these are strong evidence for me to assume that Jesus had siblings and they were not just other relatives of Mary and Joseph.
also, again in my opinion i doubt God would choose probably the girl at the time to carry his Son who would go on an unimaginable mission, and let her marry in her 20s(or younger) in a traditional marriage, and let that girl be in a marriage without the pivotal marriage act, until her death. that's just an abysmal curse to me. that's regarding op's question tho.
As I wrote before, the new testament was written in Greek by people whose native language was Aramaic. They weren't probably aware that the Greek word for relatives was different than the word for siblings. Furthermore, only Jesus is referred to as "son of Mary" in the new testament. |
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Post by hugobolso1 on Oct 8, 2018 15:56:09 GMT
According to the Catholic Church, yes, because in the 19 Century appeared to a saint and proclaimed she was the inmaculated Conception.
The other sons were from Joseph of a previous marriage.-
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Post by cherry68 on Oct 8, 2018 17:58:47 GMT
According to the Catholic Church, yes, because in the 19 Century appeared to a saint and proclaimed she was the inmaculated Conception. The other sons were from Joseph of a previous marriage.- Tbh, the immaculate conception refers to herself as she was conceived without the original sin because she was destined to be the mother of God. |
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Post by cheesecake on Oct 9, 2018 3:31:00 GMT
Doubtful.
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