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Post by Pavan on Aug 27, 2018 19:04:28 GMT
I was listening to Braveheart's score and memorized that film for a bit and thought they don't make movies like that anymore. What are some films that made you think the same way?
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Post by wattsnew on Aug 27, 2018 19:33:07 GMT
The Birth of a Nation.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Aug 27, 2018 19:36:37 GMT
Action films with interesting characters. A film like Speed and True Lies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 19:44:59 GMT
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Post by cherry68 on Aug 27, 2018 21:05:47 GMT
Gone with the wind.
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 27, 2018 22:10:43 GMT
The old style of comedy that relied on being clever is dead. The Court Jester isn't possible today, nor is something like the understated humor of a lot of dramas (one of my favorite insults is from The Big Sleep: "She tried to get in my lap while I was standing up").
Comedy has been replaced by that scene from Catch Me If You Can when Tom Hanks starts a knock knock joke, can't figure out a way to finish it, and concludes with "fuck you."
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Post by Film Socialism on Aug 27, 2018 22:31:43 GMT
don't think it's possible to get a film as formally and socially progressive as Borderline anymore
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Post by countjohn on Aug 27, 2018 22:56:08 GMT
Pretty much any Code era Hollywood genre film falls into this category. Hollywood usually doesn't adhere so strictly to genres these days and when they do it's totally different ones from what was around then (Marvelish superhero movies, bro sex comedies, exc).
There is a lot of stuff from the late 60's/early 70's period where things were first opening up too. It's pretty much not possible to get something as avant garde as 2001 made with the kind of scope that it had. Tree of Life is the closest modern-ish thing I can think of in that regard, and it's not really the same thing.
The Graduate has a visual style fusing a glossy old Hollywood romance with trends in European arthouse films. Hard to imagine something like that being made now and certainly not being one of the top grossing movies of a year.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 27, 2018 23:39:00 GMT
I usually think about big studio historical epics and medieval costume dramas. El Cid, Ten Commandments, Beckett, Anne of the Thousand Days, Quo Vadis, Doctor Zhivago (or most of Lean's projects), Cleopatra, Ben-Hur, Reds...stuff like that. Huge, big-budget projects that would undoubtedly lose money in today's markets.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Aug 28, 2018 4:58:24 GMT
Memento and Zodiac.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Aug 28, 2018 4:58:45 GMT
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Aug 28, 2018 5:17:22 GMT
Five Easy Pieces... and in general films from that brief period in the early 70s before the rise of the blockbuster and high-concept filmmaking
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Post by countjohn on Aug 28, 2018 5:41:04 GMT
I usually think about big studio historical epics and medieval costume dramas. El Cid, Ten Commandments, Beckett, Anne of the Thousand Days, Quo Vadis, Doctor Zhivago (or most of Lean's projects), Cleopatra, Ben-Hur, Reds...stuff like that. Huge, big-budget projects that would undoubtedly lose money in today's markets. When there's a question as to whether the film industry is in better or worse shape artistically than it used to be, the fact that things like Lawrence of Arabia and Doctor Zhivago basically couldn't be made today (and not because movie budgets have gone down either) heavily indicates that it is worse.
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Post by Pavan on Aug 28, 2018 7:47:12 GMT
I usually think about big studio historical epics and medieval costume dramas. El Cid, Ten Commandments, Beckett, Anne of the Thousand Days, Quo Vadis, Doctor Zhivago (or most of Lean's projects), Cleopatra, Ben-Hur, Reds...stuff like that. Huge, big-budget projects that would undoubtedly lose money in today's markets. They made a Ben-Hur remake, right? and Ridley Scott did Exodus. Sword and Sandals pics are being made but they're turning into duds. On the other hand i don't see a film that is close to those David Lean's epics made today.
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Post by jimmalone on Aug 28, 2018 7:55:24 GMT
I usually think about big studio historical epics and medieval costume dramas. El Cid, Ten Commandments, Beckett, Anne of the Thousand Days, Quo Vadis, Doctor Zhivago (or most of Lean's projects), Cleopatra, Ben-Hur, Reds...stuff like that. Huge, big-budget projects that would undoubtedly lose money in today's markets. Yeah. It seemed as with Gladiator they were on their way back, but sadly it didn't happen. For me some of the first films that spring to my mind to this question are The Apartment and 12 Angry Men.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 28, 2018 21:24:33 GMT
I usually think about big studio historical epics and medieval costume dramas. El Cid, Ten Commandments, Beckett, Anne of the Thousand Days, Quo Vadis, Doctor Zhivago (or most of Lean's projects), Cleopatra, Ben-Hur, Reds...stuff like that. Huge, big-budget projects that would undoubtedly lose money in today's markets. They made a Ben-Hur remake, right? and Ridley Scott did Exodus. Sword and Sandals pics are being made but they're turning into duds. The original epics of the 50s, 60s, and 70s aren't in any way comparable to the sword and sandal CGI-fests that have been made over the last few years. Same setting, same characters, totally different filmmaking approach, totally different level of studio involvement, totally different level of audience interest. There's a reason why contemporary sword and sandal films (which are not epics btw) perform so poorly at the box office.
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Post by stephen on Aug 28, 2018 21:58:51 GMT
They made a Ben-Hur remake, right? and Ridley Scott did Exodus. Sword and Sandals pics are being made but they're turning into duds. The original epics of the 50s, 60s, and 70s aren't in any way comparable to the sword and sandal CGI-fests that have been made over the last few years. Same setting, same characters, totally different filmmaking approach, totally different level of studio involvement, totally different level of audience interest. There's a reason why contemporary sword and sandal films (which are not epics btw) perform so poorly at the box office. I would argue that Braveheart was the last "sword-and-sandal" epic that actually felt like it could've been made in the Golden Era (despite it not having, y'know, sandals). Gladiator was the first to rely on CGI (and it did very well), but since then, scope and spectacle have become generic in this medium, with largely diminishing results.
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Post by dazed on Aug 28, 2018 22:08:13 GMT
Queen of the Damned (cheesy, but that soundtrack )
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Post by dazed on Aug 28, 2018 22:09:25 GMT
Can’t Hardly Wait, She’s All That
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Post by finniussnrub on Sept 1, 2018 3:34:52 GMT
Main stream road trip movies like Dumb and Dumber, Pee Wee's Big Adventure and Planes, Train and Automobiles were a constant in the 80's and 90's. They still exist now but have essentially been regulated to a very specific style of Indie, "quirky family learns about each other themselves through road trip, usually with older family member who likes drugs in some way".
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Post by Kings_Requiem on Sept 1, 2018 3:46:27 GMT
Easy Rider
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Post by eyebrowmorroco on Sept 5, 2018 0:12:25 GMT
Some Came Running
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Sept 5, 2018 0:14:32 GMT
A satire film with a good, standalone plot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 14:59:32 GMT
Heathers, for reasons that are justifiable I guess. Satire goes right over peoples heads these days.
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Post by bob-coppola on Sept 5, 2018 21:57:27 GMT
I think many of those types of movies brought up here still get made today, we just don't pay enough attention or aknowledge them 'cause they're recent and thus, not yet part of the canon.
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